I thought you Indians would enjoy this bully being thrashed

[Mike_Brando]

You never answered....?? Let me re-post what you've been trying to ignore and avoiding to give answer to.

Do you support Hindu terrorist who kill and forcefully convert Christians and Muslims?

When you condemn Islamists terrorists (which is a right thing to do), why don't you condemn Hindu terrorist who have been killing scores of Christians and Muslism, terrorizing them to convert to Hinduism or get persecuted over decades????

Just tell us how much you really are against terrorism as a "peaceful global citizen" and that you hate Hindu terrorists just as much as you do Islamists (even though they are you people but you stand for humanity)?

How can i support something when it's proven fact that it doesn't exist on this God's green earth.I would love to condemn Hindu terrorism if there was such a thing like that anywhere in this planet but i really can't do that because unlike Islamic terrorism Hindu terrorism is simply non-existent at this moment!!Btw,you didn't answer my question,Why are you not showing your real flag on your profile,are you really ashamed of your heritage and the country of your origin or are you trying to prove something else!

 

[Windjammer]

@US_statedept_retired, hey butt head, seems you have also been retired from PDF as well.

Try the Pentagon, they are looking for shoe shine boys.

 

[ozzy22]

His asking the fat kid to go on his knees and apologize unfortunately this doesn’t seem to be the feel good story we were hoping for it seems the Sikh kid is the bully.

 

[RisingShiningSuperpower]

This is all thanks to Modi-ji. Before Modi-ji, Indians are too ashamed of their country to fight back against bullies, but Modi-ji has given them courage.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

Syria: 11 killed in attacks against Christians - The Hindu

Seriously? That link is about Syrian Christians, not Indians!

Do you even read the links that you quote to support your theory that Christians are constantly under attack in India?

Yes, there was some violence involved mainly against the Christians (that were found to be converting the gullible tribals in Orissa and elsewhere by using inducements, bashing and spreading lies about Hinduism openly). But so were recent attacks even against Hindus in West Bengal and Gujarat (the Hindu priest even had to shoot dead a Muslim trying to harm him inside his own temple!).

Every religion is messed up and prone to use of violence. But you really have to be twisted in your mind to say that it is saffron terror and somehow compare it to Islamic terror! Nothing can even come close to Islamic terror!

 

[MastanKhan]

@US_statedept_retired, hey butt head, seems you have also been retired from PDF as well.

Try the Pentagon, they are looking for shoe shine boys.

Windy,

I was going to say something similar----. This OLD HAG has bit the dust one more time------so it is time for the bear story.

Have you convinced a single country of your conspiracies, other than fellow islamists? Still waiting.

Guy,

Seems like you are the Hunter in the Bear and the Hunter episode----. Defence.pk dedicates this joke to your memory

The Bear Hunter
Previous Next
A group of men go up into the mountains to go bear hunting. The first morning out, Bill goes out on his own. He comes to a clearing on a hill overlooking a field and sees a bear slowly strolling across the field. He gets the bear in his sites and fires. He then looks all around, but he can't find the bear.
All of a sudden, he feels a tap on his shoulder. He turns around, and there's the bear. The bear knocks the gun out of his hands, and Bill stands there shaking in his boots.
The bear yells at him, saying he's sick and tired of being shot at and gives Bill an ultimatum. The bear tells him that he can either drop to his knees and blow him, or the bear will eat his face.
Bill immediately drops to his knees and obliges the bear. The bear walks away contented and Bill find his way back to the cabin.
The next morning, Bill takes an even bigger gun with him and goes to the same place he saw the bear before. And sure enough, there was the bear strolling across the field again. Bill gets all excited, gets the bear in his sites and shoots! He looks all around, but there is no bear. All of a sudden he feels a tap on his shoulder again. He turns around, and, surprise, there's the bear. The bear looks at him, knocks the gun out of his hand, and says,''You know the routine.''
Bill drops to his knees and obliges the bear again. When he's done, the bear walks away smoking a cigarette and Bill stumbles back to his cabin.
Bill is all pissed off now. He grabs the biggest gun he can find and heads to the same spot again. And sure enough, there is the bear strolling across the field again. He gets the bear in his sites, and says to himself, ''Now this bear's gonna fuckin' get it!'' He pulls the trigger and, "Ka-BOOM!" He looks all over again, but no bear. Then, just as before, he feels the same tap at his shoulder. He turns around, there's the bear standing there with a big smirk on his face. He looks down at Bill and says, ''You're not in this for the hunting are you?'''

 

[Jaggu]

regardless of who is doing it, it's always good a see a bully getting beaten

 

[Viper0011.]

Seriously? That link is about Syrian Christians, not Indians!

Every religion is messed up and prone to use of violence. But you really have to be twisted in your mind to say that it is saffron terror and somehow compare it to Islamic terror! Nothing can even come close to Islamic terror!

I am sorry about ONE of those links being wrong. How come your post doesn't talk about the other link I posted??? Why twist the entire response with a mistaken wrong link??

I know every religion is messed up. I don't think there is a doubt about it. I have written a LOT about terrorism in Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc, etc where I've clearly blamed the local fractions involved till 2004 ish. So my post aren't against India, they are just the truth. You should take them as such. India is becoming the flashpoint of future violence and a country filled with Hindu extremist / nationalists. There isn't anything wrong with this statement, its the truth. Your elected government is filled with these people and even foreign governments have voiced concerns over it.

The argument was with a few people who'd never accept what you wrote, that intolerance exists everywhere and a guy doing extremism work in India is just as much of a terrorist as a Muslim, Christian or a Jewish guy conducting terrorism elsewhere. Innocent humans' lives should never be put at risk by any group, religion or clan. All humans are previous lives on this planet

@US_statedept_retired, hey butt head, seems you have also been retired from PDF as well.
Try the Pentagon, they are looking for shoe shine boys.

Windy - this was the post of the day. Hilarious to say the least lol

He turns around, there's the bear standing there with a big smirk on his face. He looks down at Bill and says, ''You're not in this for the hunting are you?'''

LMAO!!!!! lol

 

[kadamba-warrior]

I am sorry about ONE of those links being wrong. How come your post doesn't talk about the other link I posted??? Why twist the entire response with a mistaken wrong link??

I know every religion is messed up. I don't think there is a doubt about it. I have written a LOT about terrorism in Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc, etc where I've clearly blamed the local fractions involved till 2004 ish. So my post aren't against India, they are just the truth. You should take them as such. India is becoming the flashpoint of future violence and a country filled with Hindu extremist / nationalists. There isn't anything wrong with this statement, its the truth. Your elected government is filled with these people and even foreign governments have voiced concerns over it.

The argument was with a few people who'd never accept what you wrote, that intolerance exists everywhere and a guy doing extremism work in India is just as much of a terrorist as a Muslim, Christian or a Jewish guy conducting terrorism elsewhere. Innocent humans' lives should never be put at risk by any group, religion or clan. All humans are previous lives on this planet

What about the other 2 links? Mate, do you even read the TITLE of the links you post when you are making such serious allegations?

Syria: 11 killed in attacks against Christians - The Hindu

First you tried to pass the crimes that your own Islamist brothers in Syria are committing as Hindus committing against Christians in India. When challenged, you point to your other 2 links.

Saffron terror - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hindu attacks on Indian Christians spark crisis

One of those is a link to Wikipedia about definition of "Saffron Terror" as if it is some kind of terror sweeping the world! What do you want me to comment about it when there is no such thing as a Saffron Terror movement? It is some fancy political term invented by India's very own pseudo-secularists who would do anything for securing their own minority vote banks even if it means tarnishing the image more than 1 Billion Hindus.

The second one about Orissa! Read what the link says yourself first and how it all started. Also read about how the Hindu religious head was murdered in the cold blood and how it all sparked the whole incident. You may also note how the foreign missionaries who arrive in India on Business Visa's indulge in proselytization of the gullible tribals in Orissa and elsewhere by using inducements, bashing and spreading lies about Hinduism openly.

And this happened back in 2008!

@SarthakGanguly @wolfschanzze @Mike_Brando @Nair saab

You can quote isolated incidents like this all day long but it means squat in an extremely diverse country of 1.3 Billion people, like India. Though I agree that there a few nutbags even among the Hindus (it is in the nature of the beast called organized religion), they are negligible in number and they are cut to size and shown their place from time-to-time. But then, there are far more such zealots in other religions for which there is no parallel in Hinduism. You seem to peddle the same non-sense that somehow those nutbags will bring India to a flashpoint of future violence.

 

[Viper0011.]

What about the other 2 links? Mate, do you even read the TITLE of the links you post when you are making such serious allegations?



First you tried to pass the crimes that your own Islamist brothers in Syria are committing as Hindus committing against Christians in India. When challenged, you point to your other 2 links.
.

1) First of all, care to explain what "Serious Allegations" I was trying to make? I was stating the facts.....which the President of the US stated to the Indian PM and to the public of India on their national tv, that India needs to get rid of the religious extremism that has killed thousands of Christians, Muslims, etc. What's "allegations" here? These are facts.......twisting facts and trying to get personal doesn't really help. Tell me how the above is wrong and "allegations" and then we'll debate.

2) You obviously don't read my post or you are just like the majority of the Indian members here. When you can't answer the extremism inside your society, you start calling the person asking question terrorist and a member of some Islamic militia and all.
Well, if you read my posts, you'll find out that I equally hate every single terrorist. Whether, Muslim, Hindu, Christian or what not.

Instead of playing holly, how about you condemn the terrorism that happens in India by the Hindu extremists and break the curse. No one from India condemns it, but if its ISIS or Taliban or whoever from the Muslim world, you are ready to jump up and down and play terrorist. While protecting, covering for and providing for your own Hindu terrorists who continue to kill others. The state sponsored terrorism in India against Christians and Muslim is so bad that your federal senior ministers are openly saying that by 2030, India needs to be a Hindu nation and all Christians and Muslims will need to be converted over, by force or killings. And that they will "clean India up from mess".

So how about you condemn these extremist Hindus so we can all see Humanity still exists in India and its not like half a billion of crazy Hindu extremists just running around. There is no good and bad terrorist so show us your stance on that. Let's see how much humanity prevails in your head.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

1) First of all, care to explain what "Serious Allegations" I was trying to make? I was stating the facts.....which the President of the US stated to the Indian PM and to the public of India on their national tv, that India needs to get rid of the religious extremism that has killed thousands of Christians, Muslims, etc. What's "allegations" here? These are facts.......twisting facts and trying to get personal doesn't really help. Tell me how the above is wrong and "allegations" and then we'll debate.

2) You obviously don't read my post or you are just like the majority of the Indian members here. When you can't answer the extremism inside your society, you start calling the person asking question terrorist and a member of some Islamic militia and all.
Well, if you read my posts, you'll find out that I equally hate every single terrorist. Whether, Muslim, Hindu, Christian or what not.

Instead of playing holly, how about you condemn the terrorism that happens in India by the Hindu extremists and break the curse. No one from India condemns it, but if its ISIS or Taliban or whoever from the Muslim world, you are ready to jump up and down and play terrorist. While protecting, covering for and providing for your own Hindu terrorists who continue to kill others. The state sponsored terrorism in India against Christians and Muslim is so bad that your federal senior ministers are openly saying that by 2030, India needs to be a Hindu nation and all Christians and Muslims will need to be converted over, by force or killings. And that they will "clean India up from mess".

So how about you condemn these extremist Hindus so we can all see Humanity still exists in India and its not like half a billion of crazy Hindu extremists just running around. There is no good and bad terrorist so show us your stance on that. Let's see how much humanity prevails in your head.

1. You posted a link to suggest that Indian Hindus killed 12 Christians in India without even reading what was in the link that you posted! And, you are accusing of acting like "majority" of other Indian members who don't read before commenting?

Read carefully all the other reports of attacks on Christians. Majority of them have been investigated to be either perpetrated by random criminals with no religious affiliations and in one particular case, by illegal Bangladeshi immigrants! But of course, reading up on all that in details, won't help your arguments here, does it?

The Christians in India are riled up lately because they can't engage easily in proselytization anymore (like they have been doing for centuries) without evoking criticism from the government or the Hindu leaders. Obviously the missionaries are influential enough to get Mr.Obama to comment on religious freedom in India.

2. I don't care what the President of the US says about religious freedom in India. Mr.Obama lost his credibility sorely because immediately after his comment about religious freedom in India, he traveled to Saudi Arabia and failed to condemn the STATE-SANCTIONED atrocities against women, atrocities against religious minorities, support for terrorism and multitude of other issues in the Middle East.

Besides, Indian courts are perfectly capable of taking cognizance of any purported atrocities against minorities that you allege Hindus to be doing.

For the last time, I already said Hindus also have a few bad apples but it doesn't mean we don't condemn them whenever needed. It also doesn't mean that you put them in the same category as Islamists. Not only are they represent the tiniest of minority, they also clearly lack support from the majority!

It is laughable that you bring up Saffron Terror when the talk of the town is obviously Islam and its message of "peace" - especially to those who don't believe! Enough said!

Now pls go back to this thread and defend your brethren. Enough with the preaching!

Violent clashes as ‘mentally ill’ Christian ‘desecrates’ Quran in Lahore

 

[wolfschanzze]

What about the other 2 links? Mate, do you even read the TITLE of the links you post when you are making such serious allegations?



First you tried to pass the crimes that your own Islamist brothers in Syria are committing as Hindus committing against Christians in India. When challenged, you point to your other 2 links.



One of those is a link to Wikipedia about definition of "Saffron Terror" as if it is some kind of terror sweeping the world! What do you want me to comment about it when there is no such thing as a Saffron Terror movement? It is some fancy political term invented by India's very own pseudo-secularists who would do anything for securing their own minority vote banks even if it means tarnishing the image more than 1 Billion Hindus.

The second one about Orissa! Read what the link says yourself first and how it all started. Also read about how the Hindu religious head was murdered in the cold blood and how it all sparked the whole incident. You may also note how the foreign missionaries who arrive in India on Business Visa's indulge in proselytization of the gullible tribals in Orissa and elsewhere by using inducements, bashing and spreading lies about Hinduism openly.

And this happened back in 2008!

@SarthakGanguly @wolfschanzze @Mike_Brando @Nair saab

You can quote isolated incidents like this all day long but it means squat in an extremely diverse country of 1.3 Billion people, like India. Though I agree that there a few nutbags even among the Hindus (it is in the nature of the beast called organized religion), they are negligible in number and they are cut to size and shown their place from time-to-time. But then, there are far more such zealots in other religions for which there is no parallel in Hinduism. You seem to peddle the same non-sense that somehow those nutbags will bring India to a flashpoint of future violence.

He is just using diversionary tactics to shift the blame, its called Whataboutism This is the typical tactic of Pakistanis when confronted with watch how their Generals and Think Tanks on TV debates shift the blame onto Bharat,USA,NATO and even Aliens but never refuse to acknowledge the fault lies with them, and they are the ones responsible for starting it all in the first place.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

That's been my point all along, this guy is putting a bad name to our State Dept. His content is mostly hatred against Pakistan and Muslims, his writing and arguments are like he got hired out of high school to deliver mail, vs. working as a diplomat in the State Dept, and his agenda is to do propaganda against Pakistan and Islamic terrorism, while he TOTALLY ignores the terrorism and extremism being conducted inside his own home country called India.

He'd spend days in igniting fires and putting content out against the Islamists (which is fine), but he won't write a WORD against Hindu terrorist who have been killing scores of Christians and Muslims and forcefully converting them. How do yu justify having good terrorist as they are your countrymen, and bad terrorists (because they are across the border)????

The State Dept. have top notch diplomats, who know how to talk in a way that is very fair, equally balanced and considers a threat to humans of all races and religions, a threat to global peace and security. That's also WHY the President of the US, warned India to curb down its religious extremism and terrorism against its minorities so that the people who are non-Hindu, don't have to suffer.
This guy doesn't care for the stance of the US government. He's abusing the seal in his signature. I think the forum should have a rule on showing professional affiliations, if your post's content doesn't meet that professionalism, the forum admins should ask for that to be removed, and after posting a lot of negative content, he or she should be blocked

@Horus @WebMaster : I think its time you guys looked at the State_Dept_Retired guy's activity and ask him to remove the seal of the Dept. of the State as his content in just India focus and hate spreading only against Pakistan, etc. He wouldn't condemn terrorism in India as that's where he's from. So he's screwing up image of one of the most prestigious departments within the US government by using the seal in a wrong manner which is against the code of conduct.




Well I am a proud US citizen and a happy memorial day to everyone on here. Trust me, I'll keep these stripes red if I have to put my blood on the flag in a war.

Next, you still didn't tell me, do you condemn the terrorism the Hindus are conducting for decades against the Christians and Muslims?

Why do you think I am biased? Because you want to ignore the issue??? Why do you think the President of the US warned Indian earlier this year to remove religious extremism so that minorities in India can live a normal life and not get persecuted. Now Mr. Obama is also a Pakistani citizen hiding his flags? Stupidity can go on so far but then you are stuck with the reality. So you'll have to address is at some point soon. There aren't many circles left. You "condemn" terrorism done through Pakistan but you support Terrorism done through your Hindu cousins. That it? Good terrorist, bad terrorists????? So show us your condemnation about Indian terrorists, just as much as you write about Islamists. Show us you stand for humanity or take your biased, Hindu fanatic based view points somewhere else. Here, some stuff to read on, I have plenty of videos I can post to show you Hind terrorism, but the mods won't post videos, see if you can get permissions for me. But do show us your hate on Hindu terrorists also, I know you have Muslim terrorists (and I hate ALL terrorists the same).


Saffron terror - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hindu attacks on Indian Christians spark crisis

You are so wrong. You attacked the wrong countries. Afghanistan, Iraq etc. The real evil is here in India. And we will continue to do what we do. While you waste your lives and money shooting Muslims in Iraq, Syria, Palestine, Pakistan, Afghanistan...etc.

 

[hunter_hunted]

Who ever record the video in portrait mode should be kicked in the balls