I stand with the people of Ukraine

[ziaulislam]

I have not heard of reports of bombing of schools and hospitals, I would take such reports with a pinch of salt, there's lot of propaganda going on from all sides.
Russians see the Ukrainians as their own people, invasions is largely political, I highly doubt they would target people in such a violent manner.


I agree, but a full invasion is not the solution.


They have not opposed you either, the mark of true class is to do things for the right reasons. Invading Donbas, where a non ending conflict has been going on for many years is different from invading the entire country of Ukraine. That's just not right.

Stand you can
But noone in africa or asia supports a racist ukraine govt

 

[Rafi]

And I'm sure even more Ukrainian women are married to Indian men. So, what's your point exactly? That doesn't make Pakistan and Ukraine related in any way.

No mate you misunderstand me, I'm not making a political statement, my girl also has Russian blood and is torn between the countries, there are also hundreds of Pakistani men married to Russian girls.

Just wanted to show how small the world is now, far off exotic places are not so far off anymore.

 

[QWECXZ]

No mate you misunderstand me, I'm not making a political statement, my girl also has Russian blood and is torn between the countries, there are also hundreds of Pakistani men married to Russian girls.

Just wanted to show how small the world is now, far off exotic places are not so far off anymore.

Thank you. Yes, you're right.

 

[peagle]

I am really confused in this case. On one side we have USA et al(Europe) continuously teasing harassing and blackmailing Russia.
On the other hand, we have Russia crushing the bones of Ukraine who wanted to join the gang but is totally innocent at the moment.

I am undecided whether to support Russia or Ukraine.

Or I rather better be neutral?

I know exactly how you feel, that's why I don't really give a crap about any of them.

However, I do give a crap about the people who are going to suffer, so starting this thread was a way of asking everyone not to forget the innocent civilians caught up in this drama being played by the superpowers.

 

[fitpOsitive]

I know exactly how you feel, that's why I don't really give a crap about any of them.

However, I do give a crap about the people who are going to suffer, so starting this thread was a way of asking everyone not to forget the innocent civilians caught up in this drama being played by the superpowers.

Ukraine should have restrained from provoking a sleeping thunder...

 

[SecularNationalist]

You are the one who's needlessly arguing, on points I haven't even raised. That's just crazy.

Ok Sherlock, tell my what points I have raised? because I don't know myself.
The only point I have raised is to express sympathy for the people of Ukraine.

The rest are just assumptions that have come out of that beautiful mind of yours. Your mind, not mine.

If those people of Ukraine are racist neo Nazi supporters then there should be no sympathy for them . Before opening a thread do some research think tank analyst.

 

[IblinI]

Nobody wants people to suffer. Nobody wants two brother nations killing each other. Except for their enemies of course.

But the Westerners wanted to take Ukraine in NATO as well. Even if they deny it now. Zelensky wanted to join NATO and EU too. Imagine an animal cornered. What would you do if let's say France,Belgium,Netherlands and Norway were Warsaw Pact members and Ireland wanted to join as well?

Ukraine should have been neutral to both sides. Or at least not take down the Yanukovich government.

Don't forget those Nazi bastards.

 

[BHAN85]

There has been so much discussion about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Geopolitical, Geostrategic, Geo-economics and so on, but as usual, the average citizen gets pushed into the background in all the furore about who’s right and who’s wrong.

The great powers play games far larger then we care to understand, we think one thing and a decade later new truths come forward, so time will decide the counterfactuals of each and every argument

If Putin had invaded just the Donbas region, I wouldn’t have batted an eyelid, they are all Russian, so non of my business, so it doesn’t concern me. But to launch a full invasion of Ukraine is rather extreme, a step that will result in massive sufferings of the people that could and should have been avoided.

SO, politics aside, let's please spend a moment to think about the average citizen, the families that will suffer.
Already there has been racist reporting by white/western reporters, but we shouldn't allow that to colour our judgements, and remember that we are all human.

SO, I stand with the people of Ukraine, and I do hope everyone wishes that they won't suffer too much, and recover from this situation very soon.

You speak propaganda nonsense lies from your evil American puppet state. You have no shame.

If you want the best for Ukraine people you should ask the complete surrender of Ukraine army and stop the bloodbath.

Whole Ukraine was under Russian influence before 2014 and most of Ukrainian people lived just like after 2014. There is no difference, except by the corrupt Kiev elite who get Western bribes.

 

[Indos]

Nobody wants people to suffer. Nobody wants two brother nations killing each other. Except for their enemies of course.

But the Westerners wanted to take Ukraine in NATO as well. Even if they deny it now. Zelensky wanted to join NATO and EU too. Imagine an animal cornered. What would you do if let's say France,Belgium,Netherlands and Norway were Warsaw Pact members and Ireland wanted to join as well?

Ukraine should have been neutral to both sides. Or at least not take down the Yanukovich government.

I think the reason of why Ukraine wants to joint NATO is because since middle of last year, US intelligent knows Russia planning, so they inform Ukraine secretly and then Ukraine try to join NATO to avoid the invasion.

No nation dare to attack Russia, Putin invasion IMO is not because of NATO expansion, but more due to emotional feeling due to Ukraine-Russian war in Dombas region. Something like shelling Russian speaking region in Donbas which has been under Russian speaking rebel could happen often during the last 8 years, I mean it is Russian that they are fighting for.

It is more like revenge for that 8 years and now Russian can have another war due to several reasons like tight energy supply and high energy price that has been going on since about middle of last year that could be permanent for several years to come as many analysts have stated

 

[Indos]

I know exactly how you feel, that's why I don't really give a crap about any of them.

However, I do give a crap about the people who are going to suffer, so starting this thread was a way of asking everyone not to forget the innocent civilians caught up in this drama being played by the superpowers.

What you said is right, better dont make any comment to support Russian invasion. There should not be any invasion to happen any more, even if Indonesia is quite powerful someday, I am against any planning of another Indonesian invasion to Malaysia or Singapore, Our second President invaded East Timor in 1977 and previously there was attempt to capture Malaysia part of Borneo island by our first President.

 

[sammuel]

Well putin did conveyed his reservations regarding Ukraine getting into nato and also zelensky aligning towards West and nato what do you expect putin to simply twiddle his fingers and do nothing?

Merely an excuse , zelensky was willing to promise not to join nato.

 

[Enigma SIG]

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If you're still on the fence about Ukraine

 

[Big_bud]

For all those cheering Russia on right now, I have a question for you, would you cheer India if they invade Pakistan?
Because it's the same situation really, same we r sem to sem logic used by russia is used by india. But the people of both Ukraine and Pakistan want nothing to do with Russia and India respectively, and that's the only thing that matters. If the Ukrainians want to be separate, they have the right to be just like we do.

There's no one stopping them for being separate. All they have to be is neutral.

 

[shanipisces2002]

Merely an excuse , zelensky was willing to promise not to join nato.

Did he really he started after he got attacked not before

 

[sammuel]

Did he really he started after he got attacked not before

Fact is some NATO members have remained staunchly against Ukraine's inclusion in NATO so there was no real chance for Ukraine to join NATO anyway.

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