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I oppose imran khan decision of giving citizenships to illegal aliens

Syrian people had the same kind of attitude. They think of themselves as better looking, educated and more intelligent than others. They looked down on other Arabs and Muslims. Allah (swt) is tested them and now you see them as refugees going from one country to another. These are lessons for all of us. We need to learn from our mistakes....I hope that you don't get in a situation where you will regard our words.

This is why we need to think of our own instead of worrying about foreigners. If Balochistan and Sindh don't want it then not worth fighting civil war over afghanis and bengolis. Afghanis tried their best to turn us in to Afghanistan and Syria but by grace of allah we are recovering from that. And after APS massacre it was decided by everyone that Afghanis most go back.
 
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This is why we need to think of our own instead of worrying about foreigners. If Balochistan and Sindh don't want it then not worth fighting civil war over afghanis and bengolis. Afghanis tried their best to turn us in to Afghanistan and Syria but by grace of allah we are recovering from that. And after APS massacre it was decided by everyone that Afghanis most go back.

Civil war? what the hell are you smoking? Do you want 30 years of Harsh Marshal Law?
Make DUA that this IK government survive... If it fails, all of these M*F* sitting in opposition (Whole Corrupt Mafia) will be in jail in one day....no more cases, no more courts, no more judges....straight to jail.

Don't need to waste time with you.... I suggest you read some history books.
 
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Civil war? what the hell are you smoking? Do you want 30 years of Harsh Marshal Law?
Make DUA that this IK government survive... If it fails, all of these M*F* sitting in opposition (Whole Corrupt Mafia) will be in jail in one day....no more cases, no more courts, no more judges....straight to jail.

Don't need to waste time with you.... I suggest you read some history books.

Yes civil war in Balochistan and Sindh over citizenship. Stop dreaming about martial law if you want Pakistan to survive.
 
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Son you offended me.I am also from O and A Levels background.So that means i am not good for pakistan?I can ensure you there are plenty of foreign educated liberal minded people in pakistan who are far more patriotic and useful for pakistan than a bunch of conservative ,less educated and narrow minded people.Think broadly and stop offending people here.

But those monarachs dont fall for a ummah trap like we do.That was my point


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obviously, i guess it right....but now we r aligning ourselves more towards east in this new modern era. so that colonial era foreign education standards and the alien ideologies that it brings along r of no longer any use to us.........Yr secularism and liberalism are now as outdated ideologies as anything contemporary from 20th century in these modern 21st century times.

We dont just need loyalty, we need street smart and loyal people with new thinking and radical out of box innovative solutions, those people who can give convincingly answers to the questions we ask as a nation. Which none of the western/A/O level educators or graduates r able to be......They get as dumb as anything the more they educate themselves. We need people like Syed Saleem Abbas again.

We need a new educational system which is in tune with our people's mentality, culture, values, Asiatic cultures and religion and even region. And people like u can be put to re-education on it by cancelling yr degrees,of schools, collages and specially universities.

That way we can integrate u and other ethnicity/groups into the norms and nuances of Asia and Pakistan and Islam. And bring on much needed permanent stability and National Unity...

Different ideologies and some of them who oppose each other cant be tolerated for the above reasons.
 
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Imran Khan need to stop comparing EU immigration policy with Pakistan. In EU they adjust and produce jobs for immigrants .... yahan apna khana ka lalaay para haan ... dosra ko kia daan ga
 
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Going to be honest, I didn't read the 16 pages of this thread.

Just wanted to say, It's not "Imran Khan's decision"
It the LAW!

People who want the law to be applied selectively are no better than god father and his goons.

If you guys don't like this law, lobby parliament to change it. But in the mean time, the law says anyone born on Pakistani soil is Pakistani.

All Imran Khan is doing is applying the law fairly for everyone for the first time in Pakistani History.
 
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Going to be honest, I didn't read the 16 pages of this thread.

Just wanted to say, It's not "Imran Khan's decision"
It the LAW!

People who want the law to be applied selectively are no better than god father and his goons.

If you guys don't like this law, lobby parliament to change it. But in the mean time, the law says anyone born on Pakistani soil is Pakistani.

All Imran Khan is doing is applying the law fairly for everyone for the first time in Pakistani History.

There is no law to implement here when it comes to giving citizenship to afghanis and bengalis. PM can't do much here unless all provinces approve.

obviously, i guess it right....but now we r aligning ourselves more towards east in this new modern era. so that colonial era foreign education standards and the alien ideologies that it brings along r of no longer any use to us.........Yr secularism and liberalism are now as outdated ideologies as anything contemporary from 20th century in these modern 21st century times.

We dont just need loyalty, we need street smart and loyal people with new thinking and radical out of box innovative solutions, those people who can give convincingly answers to the questions we ask as a nation. Which none of the western/A/O level educators or graduates r able to be......They get as dumb as anything the more they educate themselves. We need people like Syed Saleem Abbas again.

We need a new educational system which is in tune with our people's mentality, culture, values, Asiatic cultures and religion and even region. And people like u can be put to re-education on it by cancelling yr degrees,of schools, collages and specially universities.

That way we can integrate u and other ethnicity/groups into the norms and nuances of Asia and Pakistan and Islam. And bring on much needed permanent stability and National Unity...

Different ideologies and some of them who oppose each other cant be tolerated for the above reasons.

Its a myth citizenship will make anyone loyal. Go to Balochistan where Achakzai have given thousands of afghanis citizenship.. You will see afghani refugees with citizenship abusing Pakistan.
 
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There is no law to implement here when it comes to giving citizenship to afghanis and bengalis. PM can't do much here unless all provinces approve.



Its a myth citizenship will make anyone loyal. Go to Balochistan where Achakzai have given thousands of afghanis citizenship.. You will see afghani refugees with citizenship abusing Pakistan.
thats what i had said in my original post on this thread. Im against giving citizenship to any kind of foreigners
 
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there is no difference between old mindset of previous govt an this so called naya pakistan ask any pakistani he will never want afghans in pakistan we already have more population which we want to bring its number down to match our annual speding at other hand that same govt increasing its number and those who are enemies who need enemies when you have

idiots like imran zardari and sharif

govt of imran putting already so much burden on common poor people of economy which his old friends use to do what is rocket science in it asad umar is most idiot person who gave him finance degree i agree the treaury of govt facing issue but pakistani people already dying from expensive tarifs of gas oil etc

seems like govt policy is always to put all issues resolve to people but they wont do their best

already govt gaining taxes on exisiting prices but they want to put more burden over burden

autistory drive is good but it wont do any good to commong people life either bring looted money from abroad or get out of govt positions

blocking mbile signals
blocking roads
taxes over taxes
raise in imports duties
only agenda of pti is to kill the poor and serve the richer

giving citizenship to afgahnis is crimnal act i dont fucking understand why they are still here when they have their country and democratic pm is sitting if peace is issue than there is no peace in entire world so planet eart go refuge on other planets is a stupid theory we as nationals has to stop this menace and ask govt to take them out asap it is not our duty to pay for foreigners it is what pakistani people decide who vote you and you sit in assembly and dictate us wont happening
 
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Going to be honest, I didn't read the 16 pages of this thread.

Just wanted to say, It's not "Imran Khan's decision"
It the LAW!

People who want the law to be applied selectively are no better than god father and his goons.

If you guys don't like this law, lobby parliament to change it. But in the mean time, the law says anyone born on Pakistani soil is Pakistani.

All Imran Khan is doing is applying the law fairly for everyone for the first time in Pakistani History.
The law is not applicable to refugees. If it was they would not be waiting 40 years hence why Imran Khan's "suggestion"
 
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There is no law to implement here when it comes to giving citizenship to afghanis and bengalis. PM can't do much here unless all provinces approve.



Its a myth citizenship will make anyone loyal. Go to Balochistan where Achakzai have given thousands of afghanis citizenship.. You will see afghani refugees with citizenship abusing Pakistan.

60+ years of neglect, Politicians have stolen 95% of the development funds from Balochistan. People are lacking basic things, do you expect people to praise Pakistan?
Now things are slowly changing in Balochistan because of CPEC.

The law is not applicable to refugees. If it was they would not be waiting 40 years hence why Imran Khan's "suggestion"

We have 2nd generation of Afghans and 3rd generations of Bangalis living in Pakistan. Does this law apply to them?
20% of people migrated from India to Pakistani Punjab in 1947 were Urdu speaking mohajir abd after 70 years you don’t find anyone claiming to be Mohajir in Punjab.
Why these refugees can’t be absorp in Punjab and Sindh?
 
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obviously, i guess it right....but now we r aligning ourselves more towards east in this new modern era. so that colonial era foreign education standards and the alien ideologies that it brings along r of no longer any use to us.........Yr secularism and liberalism are now as outdated ideologies as anything contemporary from 20th century in these modern 21st century times.

We dont just need loyalty, we need street smart and loyal people with new thinking and radical out of box innovative solutions, those people who can give convincingly answers to the questions we ask as a nation. Which none of the western/A/O level educators or graduates r able to be......They get as dumb as anything the more they educate themselves. We need people like Syed Saleem Abbas again.

We need a new educational system which is in tune with our people's mentality, culture, values, Asiatic cultures and religion and even region. And people like u can be put to re-education on it by cancelling yr degrees,of schools, collages and specially universities.

That way we can integrate u and other ethnicity/groups into the norms and nuances of Asia and Pakistan and Islam. And bring on much needed permanent stability and National Unity...

Different ideologies and some of them who oppose each other cant be tolerated for the above reasons.
Wow welcome to the 7th century :lol:
The truth is madrassa graduates like you are far far inferior than O and A levels educated people with foreign degrees. Your education system is a laughing stock and you simply cannot compete on a global level and cannot be compatible with this current day modern world.You know you stand no where and simply feel jealous.Most probably the English you learned online and the laptop you are using to type non sense on this forum is not the invention of the east.So stop being a hypocrite. If you want to compete on a global level then please do change the current education system and bring them on O and A levels standard and trust me O and A level will be disappeared automatically. Otherwise cry as much as you can you simply cannot abolish O and A levels and foreign education inside Pakistan. Its spreading like a wild fire which is a good thing because awareness is on the rise and we are producing fine and polished Pakistanis who will actually contribute to this nation unlike you madrassa graduates who are worthless and good for nothing.
If you oppose secularism you are opposing the ideology of our founding father MA jinnah and the very founding principle on which this country was created.
Finally as far as i know you are some kashmiri who belongs to the disputed territory and hence not a citizen of Pakistan and its all written over your NADRA issued card "resident of AJ&K".Once you will become the Pakistani citizen when the Kashmir issue will be solved you will entitled to give your opinions but until then you are not entitled and do not meddle in our internal affairs.
Now go have another wonderful night with your qari sahab ;)
 
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60+ years of neglect, Politicians have stolen 95% of the development funds from Balochistan. People are lacking basic things, do you expect people to praise Pakistan?
Now things are slowly changing in Balochistan because of CPEC.?

Are you stupid or what? What neglet when it comes afghani refugees who got illegal CNIC in Balochistan. Once fully investigated we can cancel their cnic and throw them back to Afghanistan.

And since every province needs to be on board for citizenship, that mean its not happening. And forget about settling these haramis anywhere in punjab, there is no place. Many have already gone from punjab because of punjab police chitrol and harassment.
 
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Wow welcome to the 7th century :lol:
The truth is madrassa graduates like you are far far inferior than O and A levels educated people with foreign degrees. Your education system is a laughing stock and you simply cannot compete on a global level and cannot be compatible with this current day modern world.You know you stand no where and simply feel jealous.Most probably the English you learned online and the laptop you are using to type non sense on this forum is not the invention of the east.So stop being a hypocrite. If you want to compete on a global level then please do change the current education system and bring them on O and A levels standard and trust me O and A level will be disappeared automatically. Otherwise cry as much as you can you simply cannot abolish O and A levels and foreign education inside Pakistan. Its spreading like a wild fire which is a good thing because awareness is on the rise and we are producing fine and polished Pakistanis who will actually contribute to this nation unlike you madrassa graduates who are worthless and good for nothing.
If you oppose secularism you are opposing the ideology of our founding father MA jinnah and the very founding principle on which this country was created.
Finally as far as i know you are some kashmiri who belongs to the disputed territory and hence not a citizen of Pakistan and its all written over your NADRA issued card "resident of AJ&K".Once you will become the Pakistani citizen when the Kashmir issue will be solved you will entitled to give your opinions but until then you are not entitled and do not meddle in our internal affairs.
Now go have another wonderful night with your qari sahab ;)

read my post fully. please


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now now mister, im actually one of those whom u find in cafe 1969, in gloria jeans in DHA/Bahria town in islamabad/rawalpindi..im also an army brat like u. Even right now im a student of PhD of IR in NDU.

Well mister we all have seen how much really loyal people from yr community are and how much compatibility u actually have. I know for the fact that yr not really one of them but u and a few like u are a rarely, and common we all know that very well. And now just look at the newer generations, who r the teenagers of today? those who r going to replace us tomorrow, and take command of this country, what is their character today? and whatever is taught to them in their private schools and universities? And not only that have u ever noticed that the fans of people like pervez hoodhbouy who is a senior professor in Quaid e Azam University are all these young people from our classes....And now look at karachi, where those convent schools r big thing? where do u think the people like those bloggers like waqas goraya, Salman etc etc and their supporter like jibran nasir come from? Let me give u a clue, go to Facebook page of personal account of jibran nasir and see where he got his schooling from?

Before u jump to gun. My own father is a product of those convent schools in murree. He was recruited there in age of 5 in 1967. And what stories he used to tell me as to what happened in those boarding houses of those convent r bone chilling. From pedophilia to even sacrificing the young children by those fathers and nuns, that was proper satanic shit he used to tell us, that was because those who used to come there in boarding houses for education used to be from poor families like him father's and they used to put such children in hostels for free to encourage the locals to ''educate'' their young. Muree and Azad Kashmir wasnt that great at that time, one used to hardly find a car on the roads back then. So they used to take advantage of such situations and the innocence of the people there. Now i dont know if this pedophilia or sacrificing children is still practiced today or not in the convent boarding schools, but that was happening in Murree's convent schools in 60s

And not only that my father who was from our family which was religious, he had a habit of praying 5 times Namaz. But do u know that in those hostels praying and reciting Quran was strictly banned? And there was a strong punishment for anybody who is caught doing so? Thats a practice that still continues to this day, for both of their girls and boys hostels. I have conformed this from another friend of mine who graduated from a convent school in 2007.

Now this is not a conspiracy theory, thats what i have been told my my own father, who later fought wars for this country, yes they do get A/O level education in these convent schools but at what cost? They r no longer Muslims really when they graduate because of their upbringing is done under the supervision of those fathers and nuns under the cross! They celebrate there christian holidays and religious festivals like easter, black friday christmas etc etc, but dont even know abt basics of islam as to why we even celebrate Eid?(i asked this question to jibran nasir BTW when last time he was in islamabad:lol:)

I knew abt these weaknesses since these r the same conditions of my father too. And i know how to maneuver when these sort of guys r around. Now let me tell u another thing, when these guys graduate they r preferred to being a candidate of private universities like that of LUMS IBA ZIBIST and other universities like that of NCA from where these models and actors both male n female come from. And after they graducate from such universities they get preferred quality jobs in both government/civil/abroad.
I repeat again these r not conspiracy theories! This is a reality that people yr and my class are running away from as its a bitter truth man!

So Am i asking for too much when i say to atleast include them into National Action Plan as well? So atleast what children r being taught, what happens in those hostels and what children learn can be monitored too like those of madrassas? Because afterall the christian convent schools r also basically religious schools arnt they?

So please man think abt it with an open mind and think like a Pakistani first, then a person from these classes with their judo-christian secular atheistic agnostic ideologies....and read my post fully. please.

And this is why for those who have already gone through such a system, their re-education is required foremost!
 
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