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Hyderabad Deccan's Nizam's contribution to Pakistan

well there some ethical logic i want to question here.
The wealth of Hydrabad treasury belonged to the state of Hydrabad and its people.
The nizam first responsibilty were his subject, lest not export the whole wealth overseas

No wonder people were not opposed to the idea of state annexation by India.

Most of these nawabs were for serving their own desires..they ruled by dividing the populance over pettty issues.

You are correct in the logic of your statement. But in the Nizam's case, the power had long moved into the hands of some very powerful courtiers and noblemen of the court and they had already accumalated large amounts of wealth and property leaked/leached out of the Nizam's treasury. And the people knew of it, though the Nizam as both fountain-head and figure-head of the State was the recepient of the opprobrium.
 
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I was talking about the last Nizam. His army was not more than 16,000 men and most where the Razakars. And a large part was absorbed.

I was talking about the last Nizam too. His army was the most modern and largest army of the Nizams (till then) and even of the assorted Maharajas, Rajas and Nawabs of that time. 16000 men was not a small force, even assuming that most were Razakars. The Nizam was a huge source of funding to the British Govt. to raise forces and buy equipment during WW II. Reearch that and you will understand what his capabilities as a ruler could or should have been. It is another thing that most of the Generals and other important people in his forces were just people with connections and militarily could be considered to be "clowns".
 
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My moms family were the real estate traders of warangal and a very wealthy family. My Nana migrated to Pakistan and donated everything to the young state of Pakistan and led a very simple life as government employee. They had first hand account with Nizams of Hydrabad. Not everything was as rosey and shiney as presented by some people. The nizams among all were highly extravagant (ayash) and paedophole (keeping girls age 14-16 in their hareems).
 
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My moms family were the real estate traders of warangal and a very wealthy family. My Nana migrated to Pakistan and donated everything to the young state of Pakistan and led a very simple life as government employee. They had first hand account with Nizams of Hydrabad. Not everything was as rosey and shiney as presented by some people. The nizams among all were highly extravagant (ayash) and paedophole (keeping girls age 14-16 in their hareems).

Ah, now somebody comes out with some facts!
But all that cannot be said completely about the last Nizam. By that time the noblemen had got a great deal of power and each had become centers for corruption in their own right. They could beat the Nizam's direct family hollow in that respect. The history of the Nizams, their origins (they were not locals) and their rise and fall is a chequered history in itself

If one just views the Nizams collection of jewellery, one can even guess what their philosophy of existence must have been.
 
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My grandfather is from Warangal. He used to tell us about how razakar's used to burn rice storage of people and make them starve.
 
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I did ask somebody from Deccan.. that is his testimony I give.
His testimony also included names of Hindu conspirators who did their best to move heaven and earth to have the Nizam removed, his wealth distributed amongst them etc.
I then verified that with a relative of mine from Hyd, a graduate of Osmania.
So to me it seems the GoI went all out to defile and defame the Nizam the best they could. Or rather defile and defame anything pro Pakistan the best they could.

I dont trust the GOI sources about anything.My information is from my own sources.I have close uncles and family friends in Civil Service,Diplomats and Scientists.I dont even need to read the newspaper.
 
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I did ask somebody from Deccan.. that is his testimony I give.
His testimony also included names of Hindu conspirators who did their best to move heaven and earth to have the Nizam removed, his wealth distributed amongst them etc.
I then verified that with a relative of mine from Hyd, a graduate of Osmania.

That's why when I said Muslims I said Telugu speaking ones who are the sons of the soil in Hyderabad and not the Urdu speaking ones whose roots mostly go to North Indian areas in UP,Bihar or in some cases Persian or Turkish ones. These few were the Razakars some of whose progeny even now live in Hyderabad with an affinity towards Pakistan.

Of course they will favour the Nizam over anyone. But there are plenty of local sources,historical references to the contrary.

So to me it seems the GoI went all out to defile and defame the Nizam the best they could. Or rather defile and defame anything pro Pakistan the best they could.

The same can be said about Maharaja Hari Singh in Pakistan. Tu tu-Mein mein does not work here.
 
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I did ask somebody from Deccan.. that is his testimony I give.
His testimony also included names of Hindu conspirators who did their best to move heaven and earth to have the Nizam removed, his wealth distributed amongst them etc.
I then verified that with a relative of mine from Hyd, a graduate of Osmania.
So to me it seems the GoI went all out to defile and defame the Nizam the best they could. Or rather defile and defame anything pro Pakistan the best they could.

The popular revolt against the Nizam was led mostly by the Communists in the Hyderabad state and not the 'Hindoos' as many here think. Your friend should agree with me at least with that part. However it is true that Muslims of the state did not show their interest in overthrowing the Nizam. Their concerns are for obvious reasons understandable. Also the so called honourable man Qasim Rizvi is well known as the butcher of Deccan after his Razakar forces wreaked terror among the villages. Even before Bangladesh was born the term Razakar had some very disturbing connotations of cruelty.
 
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Triumphs and troubles: Razakars or volunteers of Hyderabad Army the fighting force had only staves and swords to fight the enemy forces. | Photo Credit: Special Arrangement

Bidar played a significant role in Hyderabad’s resistance to integration into the Indian Union

Visitors to the tombs of Ashtur near Bidar are surprised to see the grand tombs, their intricate inlay work, incised stucco work and the scale of the monuments. It is a wonder why much of the land around the monuments has not yet been occupied and overrun by human habitations like Hyderabad.

But the mystery lies a little beyond the Ashtur tombs. “The flat ground beyond Ashtur was used by the Deccan Airways for landing planes. And in 1948 before Hyderabad was absorbed into India, where as Sidney Cotton’s British Airforce planes with weapons were landing in Hyderabad Sindh,” says Anuradha Reddy of Indian National Trust for Art and Heritage.

The airport at Bidar was one of the keys to the battle-readiness of Hyderabad. Not many know that for over a year between August 15, 1947 and September 17, 1948 Hyderabad existed as an independent state, ruled by Nizam who had a Standstill Agreement with India.

During this period in Hyderabad, Sindh Muslim League Militias and British armed forces tried to create a fighting force to resist the might of India. The only way weapons could be brought into the landlocked country was through air which was done by British pilot Sidney Cotton. Bankrolled by the British Monarchy, British pilot Sidney Cotton created a small band of mercenary fliers who were willing to take the risk of flying in the night over a hostile territory.

The British Royal Air Force planes took off from Malir near Karachi in the night and flew across the Arabian Sea before turning east at right angle towards Hyderabad,Sindh.They were overflying Indian territory for perhaps 20 minutes at a speed of 250 miles per hour. Though circuitous, the air corridor bypassed Bombay and other centres in India where radar vigilance would be higher.

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The night landing was a complex operation without any radar help. Operating a radio beacon was one of the Sidney Cotton’s mercenaries: Fredrick Rowan. Rowan would sit listening and once he established contact with the incoming planes he would run out and light kerosene wick lamps at the unmarked airstrip. The landing sites were shuffled to confuse spies and keep Indian officials guessing.

After the first few flight that began in July 1948, Cotton became so cocky that he once sent a radio message meant for Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru: “Where are your Tempests?” The Hawker Tempests were India’s key to airpower and Cotton was challenging India’s might.

The massive arms that Cotton brought for the Muslim league Militias in Sindh. By September 1948, the border skirmishes between India and Pakistan armed forces backed by British Forces escalated to test runs.

Hyderabad,Hind had three landing sites at Hakimpet, Warangal and Bidar.

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The airstrip near Bidar was key to the airlift of arms that Hyderabad received from United States of America and Republic of Turkey in July-September 1948. | Photo Credit: Serish Nanisetti

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Razakars, or volunteers, the fighting force had only staves and swords to fight the enemy forces. | Photo Credit: Special Arrangement

Couched as mundane ‘Police Action’, Indian forces began moving in on four fronts on September 13, 1948. A British mercenary tasked with blowing up the bridge near Naldurg pass was caught with the dynamite in his vehicle and picked up. By 7 a.m. Naldurg was captured and the Indian army then looped around Bidar. They destroyed the airstrip rendering it unusable. By 5 p.m. Indian soldiers were being cheered as they raced on the Old Mumbai Highway.

The battle lasted 109 hours. Or rather Indian army took 109 hours to reach Hyderabad from the border of the kingdom to its capital. Fredrick Rowan, the radio beacon operator who guided Cotton’s planes was stabbed at Bidar.

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whats the difference ? old ones replace by new ones which are slave to banks. subcontinent is expert of being ghulam.
 
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Wonder for all his misdemeanors pointed out by some Indian members.. this man and his family were able to maintain peace in a state where the majority (92%) were non-Muslims... and of the remaining 8% of which compromised the poor, the weak , women and children.. only a few were able to keep complete control without any major revolt or uprising.

apparently even Gandhiji tried to stir up people in Hyderabad.. for three months. and returned with nothing.
Makes you wonder if the Nizam was as "bad" as you folks seems to want to show him to be.
Does not change the fact that the Indian Army had overwhelming public support during operation polo. Similarly, the Muslim majority population of JaK had no problems with their Hindu Maharaj until 1947. Interesting right?
 
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Does not change the fact that the Indian Army had overwhelming public support during operation polo. Similarly, the Muslim majority population of JaK had no problems with their Hindu Maharaj until 1947. Interesting right?
Sorry, cant give you the latter since its just false. The indian army had support due to the increased communal tensions.
The maharaja lost his support for the same.
 
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