Taking advantage of deada - only indians can support such despicable act. In fact in many occsions indians killed their own people to score point against others.
Hundreds protest in Iran,despite warning
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Taking advantage of deada - only indians can support such despicable act. In fact in many occsions indians killed their own people to score point against others.
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I watched the 'Neda' video several times over and come to the conclusion she was beyond help. Several items were significant...
In combat aid, with a chest wound, the most important assessment is whether either lung is damaged. From the location of the man's hand as he tried to stop the bleeding, Neda was probably a 'sucking chest wound' case. The ground below her looked awfully dark. Am %99.999 certain there was an exit wound and the swath of this 'dark' area seems to indicate rapid hemorrhage, even for oxygen enriched blood, which would be quite viscuous. I could be wrong. It could be just a dark patch of road asphalt. So if there was an exit wound and that Neda was lying on top of it, there was nothing anyone could do. As her heart continued to beat, plugging up one wound would just force the blood flow to the other wound, assisted by gravity as she was horizontal.
Neda's body movements seemed to me to be indicative of a shock. In Tae-kwon Do, I have been knocked out before and it is bizarre how one's body, especially the limbs, will react to such a trauma. Fighters have had broken wrists or even arms as they collapsed. Sometimes the limbs just stiffened up and received such damages on the way to the ground. Sometimes a fighter would just become like jelly and quite gently fell. It is unpredictable. Neda's body movement, especially her eyes and arms, to me, seems like she was already in shock from the bodily trauma of the bullet's impact.
What was most telling was when blood flowed from her nostrils and mouth. Sneezing and coughing are very violent reactions as the body tries to expel foreign objects from air passages. If the victim of a 'sucking chest wound' is able to cough, he is salvageable, to put it bluntly. The body is still strong and alert enough to try to save itself. The rescuers, if they are trained, would keep the head at the highest tilt angle and the upper torso slightly, may be two degrees, off horizontal. The goal is to keep any internal bleeding that goes into the lungs to 'pool' at the lowest level in the lungs. Cloth or preferably any piece of plastic would be used to plug the wounds to keep the lungs from collapse. Oxygen to the brain is critical at this time. If the victim continues to breath, even though with great difficulty, with short and shallow breaths, odds of survival greatly increases.
But nothing of that sort of bodily reactions occurred with Neda when the final scenes showed the blood flow from her nostrils and mouth. Probably her lungs had finally collapsed and the final exhale is called 'the death rattle'. Keep in mind that just like explosions, fluidic flow take the path of least resistance. That final exhale movement forced any blood in her lungs to fill the air passages and out her nostrils and mouth. The poor girl died in her shock.
In combat aid, with a chest wound, the most important assessment is whether either lung is damaged. From the location of the man's hand as he tried to stop the bleeding, Neda was probably a 'sucking chest wound' case. The ground below her looked awfully dark. Am %99.999 certain there was an exit wound and the swath of this 'dark' area seems to indicate rapid hemorrhage, even for oxygen enriched blood, which would be quite viscuous. I could be wrong. It could be just a dark patch of road asphalt. So if there was an exit wound and that Neda was lying on top of it, there was nothing anyone could do. As her heart continued to beat, plugging up one wound would just force the blood flow to the other wound, assisted by gravity as she was horizontal.
Neda's body movements seemed to me to be indicative of a shock. In Tae-kwon Do, I have been knocked out before and it is bizarre how one's body, especially the limbs, will react to such a trauma. Fighters have had broken wrists or even arms as they collapsed. Sometimes the limbs just stiffened up and received such damages on the way to the ground. Sometimes a fighter would just become like jelly and quite gently fell. It is unpredictable. Neda's body movement, especially her eyes and arms, to me, seems like she was already in shock from the bodily trauma of the bullet's impact.
What was most telling was when blood flowed from her nostrils and mouth. Sneezing and coughing are very violent reactions as the body tries to expel foreign objects from air passages. If the victim of a 'sucking chest wound' is able to cough, he is salvageable, to put it bluntly. The body is still strong and alert enough to try to save itself. The rescuers, if they are trained, would keep the head at the highest tilt angle and the upper torso slightly, may be two degrees, off horizontal. The goal is to keep any internal bleeding that goes into the lungs to 'pool' at the lowest level in the lungs. Cloth or preferably any piece of plastic would be used to plug the wounds to keep the lungs from collapse. Oxygen to the brain is critical at this time. If the victim continues to breath, even though with great difficulty, with short and shallow breaths, odds of survival greatly increases.
But nothing of that sort of bodily reactions occurred with Neda when the final scenes showed the blood flow from her nostrils and mouth. Probably her lungs had finally collapsed and the final exhale is called 'the death rattle'. Keep in mind that just like explosions, fluidic flow take the path of least resistance. That final exhale movement forced any blood in her lungs to fill the air passages and out her nostrils and mouth. The poor girl died in her shock.
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Dear all members Assalam u alaikum
Ugly indians will never be our freinds their media, Intelligence organizations, hidden fake organizations are big threat to we people and our nation. So never ever think r even imagin that Pak india relations means we r safe. Infact we are in big trouble??????
Ugly indians will never be our freinds their media, Intelligence organizations, hidden fake organizations are big threat to we people and our nation. So never ever think r even imagin that Pak india relations means we r safe. Infact we are in big trouble??????
I've seen the claims of CIA involvement. Supposedly the CIA spent $400 million dollars to fund the protests. I have a question though, if the CIA sent $400 million dollars, would the protesters be fighting people in helicopters and armed with AK47's with rocks? $400 million would buy a lot of AK47's for the protesters, yet all they have are rocks and bricks to defend themselves against heavily armed troops.
But putting that aside for the moment, everyone deserves free and fair elections, I don't care where they are, be it America, Iran, China, Pakistan or any other country you care to name.
But putting that aside for the moment, everyone deserves free and fair elections, I don't care where they are, be it America, Iran, China, Pakistan or any other country you care to name.
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$400 million was spent for media manipulation and other stuff to instigate people fight against their own nation.
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communist ..... you really are one of a kind .. do you have any credible source or logic behind what you just said..if you say that CIA is behind everything it belies logic 'coz president condemed violence in tehran( protesters are doing the same ). and btw do you have any idea about the background of Mir Hossein Moussavi .. he was a hardliner and one of the senior people from revolution in 1979.. CIA would know it .. wouldn't it ... its not that incompetent ..and if you are sayin that CIA backed ahmedinejad ..dats another gem. .. wzzzzzzzzzzzzup communist .. you come up with such one line wonders .. but they are worth reading bro..
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Cia-Mossad is behind this as suggested by evidence. Nothing changes.
When will they realize that ALL humans are equal. They try so hard to keep others down. This will NEVER succeed in the long run. I see massive upheaval in the next few decades, then another few decades of healing, then a century of slow recovery. But after that, when they look back at history they will be shocked at how selfish humans can be. Despite the vast advances in technology in these last few hundred years, it is also the darkest times in human history. It will only get worse in the next years to come.
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Cia-Mossad is behind this as suggested by evidence. Nothing changes.
When will they realize that ALL humans are equal. They try so hard to keep others down. This will NEVER succeed in the long run. I see massive upheaval in the next few decades, then another few decades of healing, then a century of slow recovery. But after that, when they look back at history they will be shocked at how selfish humans can be. Despite the vast advances in technology in these last few hundred years, it is also the darkest times in human history. It will only get worse in the next years to come.
would appreciate a link for your basis of accusation plz ..
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I posted some youtube videos above. They are news clips from a French News channel. Hope you do not have problem understanding the language.
What you have is the Iranian government claiming interference without them or you ever showing any proof whatsoever.
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I guess the argument could be that because the Iranian government is beyond manipulating but does indeed have a 'state media' and that these gents are used to living with 'state medias', it is utterly INCONCEIVABLE to them 'the media' could be independent somewhere else.
It goes like this...
The CIA...yakity...yakity..yakity...CIA...blah...blah...blah...CIA...yada...yada...yada...CIA...gobblegedy-gook...gobblegedy-gook...gobblegedy-gook...CIA...yada...yakity....gobblegedy-gook...CIA...gobblegedy-gook...yada...yakity...CIA...yakity...gobblegedy-gook...yada...CIA.
So the more the CIA is injected into the argument, the more 'credible' and 'factual' it sounds to these gents. I cannot help but wonder if the CIA is that powerful, how did we lost Iran these decades ago.
It goes like this...
The CIA...yakity...yakity..yakity...CIA...blah...blah...blah...CIA...yada...yada...yada...CIA...gobblegedy-gook...gobblegedy-gook...gobblegedy-gook...CIA...yada...yakity....gobblegedy-gook...CIA...gobblegedy-gook...yada...yakity...CIA...yakity...gobblegedy-gook...yada...CIA.
So the more the CIA is injected into the argument, the more 'credible' and 'factual' it sounds to these gents. I cannot help but wonder if the CIA is that powerful, how did we lost Iran these decades ago.
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