Huge Turkish and HTS casualties in failed attack

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Thanks. Yes I forgot the Kurds.

Most Kurds are pro-Turkey and it has been this way for centuries, PKK is more like BLA, a foreign funded terrorist group with little support on the ground. Unfortunately regional powers are using PKK against Turkey, the same as they did against Pakistan with TTP.

 

[Vortex]

Most Kurds are pro-Turkey and it has been this way for centuries, PKK is more like BLA, a foreign funded terrorist group with little support on the ground. Unfortunately regional powers are using PKK against Turkey, the same as they did against Pakistan with TTP.

Thanks for these explanations.

 

[Sina-1]

Most Kurds are pro-Turkey and it has been this way for centuries

This is the BS of all BS! Kurds have no allegiance to either Iran, turkey, Syria or Iraq. They are only pro Kurdistan. That is why whenever you ask an ethnic Kurd where he is from, the answer is always Kurdistan. Although that state does not exist!

maybe you meant to say that most Kurds would not mind living peacefully in turkey. Yes that is correct! But if they had a choice then they would all choose to live in a sovereign kurdistan.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

This is the BS of all BS! Kurds have no allegiance to either Iran, turkey, Syria or Iraq. They are only pro Kurdistan. That is why whenever you ask an ethnic Kurd where he is from, the answer is always Kurdistan. Although that state does not exist!

maybe you meant to say that most Kurds would not mind living peacefully in turkey. Yes that is correct! But if they had a choice then they would all choose to live in a sovereign kurdistan.

I know what I meant. You are swallowing the propaganda of your state.

You guys have been so brainwashed that you live in an alternate reality.

There are many Kurds who left Syria as refugees and went to Turkey, and not all Kurds in Syria are part of PKK or support them, rather we do have Kurds who stand with Arabs and Turkmen against the Assad regime.

As for Iraq, KRG is led by Barzanis and not PKK, they are pro-Turkish as well.

Most Kurds of Turkey are part and parcel of their nation and fully support Turkish actions against PKK.

PKK are nothing but communist, atheist usurpers, funded by foreign powers to destabilize the region.

 

[Bardy]

**** on forum: kill Iran
**** in real life: love Iran bro!

 

[500]

Erdogan chose S-400 over F-35 and got humiliated by Assad.
Israel chose F-35 and humiliates Assad.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

No I did not say ban but why do you have to feel disappointed just because some other members have other viewpoints I think it's unfair I had my comments deleted by mods here for opposing the Turkish policies in Syria

I cleaned up the thread and no posts were deleted because of criticism of Turkish policies.

When mods have to do mass cleanups on threads, we don’t have time to edit posts that might have good content and good arguments and just remove the offensive or off topic part of the post.

 

[Hack-Hook]

They did... and ASSad didn't like it... and here we are today...
But that you know... I mean... you guys tried in your own country... But they painted your streets red...
Always interesting to hear "Morality of choice" from someone living in a Dictatorship...
How's your fake elections btw? Where are the queues? Hospital or Voting areas?

as i recall , FSA have always wanted an election controlled by them that assad won't be a candidate and always said Assad must go. it was assad who offered an election

 

[HannibalBarca]

as i recall , FSA have always wanted an election controlled by them that assad won't be a candidate and always said Assad must go. it was assad who offered an election

Look, let's be honest shall we... Will you let a Dictator and a Dictatorship control elections?
I mean, let's be realistic here...
ASSad and his father had Soviet like Numbers... 99%... I mean, come on...

Syrians protested against a corrupt regime/Dictatorship for a reason... to make it a bit more Democratic... and more accountable to their actions... And Not just protesting/dying and at the end of the day giving the control to the next election to a Dictatorship...

Ppl think that in the early days of the revo... they were only Sunnis... Come on... Latakia/Tartus/Damascus/Suweida and co aren't Sunni... They are Shia areas... and they protested too...

But That Dictator played the sectarian card later on, when Ppl started to answer back to his army... by using his family and tribe connection to call for help from the shia tribes/families... at the end of 2011/beginning 2012... a year after the beginning of the revo...

Few weeks ago, they were protest in Suwaida/Damascus and other Shia areas against ASSad gangs... Who were abusing their power against the ppl (Theft/Taxes/Corruption etc...) The same reason the revo started...

I mean, you know all of that... it's not like Iran isn't far from such thing... The entire region is governed like that...
I can understand that an outsider of the region may "maybe" try to find excuses about X or Y regime in ME... but ppl living/knowing those countries for decades... aren't dumb either... We know what they do or don't...

 

[Sina-1]

You are swallowing the propaganda of your state.

You guys have been so brainwashed that you live in an alternate reality.

what propaganda? I just said that Kurds have no allegiance to Iran. Do you think that official IRI line is that Kurds are not nationalistic? Wow, you are very smart!

 

[Ansu fati]

Erdogan chose S-400 over F-35 and got humiliated by Assad.
Israel chose F-35 and humiliates Assad.

This is partially true but it doesn’t tell the truth about F-35 and S-400
I think you know better than me but i will remind you anyway that almost all of israeli territory is covered(99% only smart part of the south are not in the range) by russian s400 stationed in syria
Greeks also want to buy F-35 in the future
and they will be covered by s400 stationed in the turkish aegan coast
When we summarize all of this then we should ask ourselves a question why americans aren’t giving F-35 to Turkey which still produces parts for the plane though expelled since 2019??? The argument that we want to protect F-35 from s400 is laughable if you mention that greece israel are already exposed to S400

 

[Trench Broom]

I guess Turkey is realising that fighting against the Russians is not as easy as shelling Kurdish villages. The Turkish army has only been doing the latter for decades and hasn't got the experience of a proper war.

 

[azbaroj]

Erdogan chose S-400 over F-35 and got humiliated by Assad.
Israel chose F-35 and humiliates Assad.

No , Erdogan is betrayed by Putin and Iran is also betrayed by same Putin who let Israel an open hand to pounded his Syrian partnar Iran's positions in Syria .
Oh , what a foolish world we live in .

 

[500]

This is partially true but it doesn’t tell the truth about F-35 and S-400
I think you know better than me but i will remind you anyway that almost all of israeli territory is covered(99% only smart part of the south are not in the range) by russian s400 stationed in syria
Greeks also want to buy F-35 in the future
and they will be covered by s400 stationed in the turkish aegan coast
When we summarize all of this then we should ask ourselves a question why americans aren’t giving F-35 to Turkey which still produces parts for the plane though expelled since 2019??? The argument that we want to protect F-35 from s400 is laughable if you mention that greece israel are already exposed to S400

These coverage circles are very silly. For low flying aircraft the circle the small one:

In all conflicts side with relies on air defence is losing and on air superiority winning.

No , Erdogan is betrayed by Putin and Iran is also betrayed by same Putin who let Israel an open hand to pounded his Syrian partnar Iran's positions in Syria .
Oh , what a foolish world we live in .

Putins lets Israel not because of beautiful eyes, but because he knows that he cant do anything anyway. Same goes with US.

 

[himate]

Putins lets Israel not because of beautiful eyes, but because he knows that he cant do anything anyway. Same goes with US.

True say! Putins a coward against tiny israel because of nukes.
Turkish leaders and people must wake up and smell the coffee and know that you cannot rely on others. We need our nukes if you want to neutralise russian deterrent. The only reason Russian acting the way they are is because of their deterrence otherwise they are nothing but cowards