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The news from Sunday night that Google would be complying with a US government edict and suspending business with Huawei is one of the most dramatic moments in Android’s history. Huawei, China’s most prolific smartphone vendor, had started 2019 with explosive double-digit growth and was on a path to eclipse Samsung as the world’s number one phone maker by the year’s end. Without Google’s Android support, however, that’s simply not going to happen — not in 2019 or 2020 or any other date in the future.

Whether this proves to be the most consequential moment in Android’s history has yet to be determined. This could all be just a short-lived scare tactic from a Trump administration trying to demonstrate to the Chinese government its willingness to take drastic measures. Or Huawei might be left on the US blacklist indefinitely, spawning a wide variety of potential scenarios, none of which bode well for the company’s future as a smartphone vendor.

As things stand, Huawei is losing its licensing agreement with Google for the provision of Google Play Services and access to the Google Play Store on new Huawei Android devices. Existing customers won’t be affected, though without Google resuming business with Huawei, they also won’t get any further Android OS updates. (Honor, Huawei’s wholly owned subsidiary, looks to be subject to the same fate). This is devastating to Huawei’s hopes of selling any smartphones outside of China.

Huawei still has the option to use the open-source variety of Android, but Google has been gradually whittling all of the attractive components away from the Android Open Source Project (AOSP). The genuine full-fat Android experience of today — featuring Google Maps, YouTube, and, most crucially, the full ecosystem of third-party Android apps — is dependent on Google’s licensing assent. Deprived of Google’s software, Huawei would be selling featherless chickens to smartphone buyers used to having Play Store access. In Europe, even the finest hardware wouldn’t convince consumers to buy a phone without an app ecosystem. Google wields enormous market power through its Play Store, significant enough for the European Commission to conduct an antitrust investigation.


In its native China, Huawei already operates without the Play Store, owing to Google’s absence from the market. But even there, Huawei would suffer from not having a close working relationship with Google. All of its fellow Chinese rivals would get earlier access to the next version of Android while Huawei would have to wait for the AOSP code to be made available to the public. The Chinese consumer is probably the least sensitive to operating system updates and upgrades, given how WeChat has evolved to be an OS and ecosystem atop Android, but Huawei would still be at a disadvantage in one of the world’s most competitive phone markets.

There’s no positive spin to this situation for Huawei. Trying to sell smartphones without Google’s cooperation in the modern age is a spectrum that goes from bad to disastrous. Windows Phone, Palm OS, MeeGo, Symbian, Bada (later Tizen), and BlackBerry OS are just a few of the mobile OS corpses that Android’s rise has produced. App-less operating systems simply do not stand a chance against the contemporary iOS-Android duopoly.

Putting a brave face on the situation, Huawei’s official response has been to underline its contributions to the global popularity of Android, reassure current Huawei and Honor phone owners that they’ll continue receiving security updates, and promise to “continue to build a safe and sustainable software ecosystem.” Notably, there’s no mention of Android in the closing of Huawei’s remarks.

Huawei has been aware of the possibility of hostile action from the US government for years, and its consumer division boss Richard Yu recently disclosed that it’s developed its own alternatives to Android and Windows. On the mobile front, that could be a fork of the AOSP flavor of Android or an entirely new operating system, built up from scratch. In both cases, Huawei would have a mighty struggle to convince any app developers to build apps for its separate platform. If Amazon, with all its clout and influence, couldn’t do it for the Amazon Appstore on Android, Huawei stands even less of a chance. Rational app developers are hardly going to flock to a new platform that’s born of adversity and thrust into a maelstrom of political conflict.

As to the Huawei Mate X foldable phone, the company would be well advised to hold off from releasing it until it has its full Android privileges restored. If it does.

The best-case outcome from the present situation, which might be considered most likely if it wasn’t for the volatility of the current US leadership, is that China and the US reach a new trade agreement that thaws relations and grants Huawei respite from these punitive sanctions. To have a healthy smartphone business, Huawei needs Google’s Android support. Google also benefits richly from Huawei’s breakneck pace of innovation, and let’s not forget that Apple’s iPhone business is literally built in China. Every sensible incentive pushes the US and China to collaborate. However, the US president seems intent on playing the greater madman.

So what happens if the US-China trade hostilities don’t improve? Huawei’s in-house operating system efforts would redouble, and, whether that OS is complete or not, we’re likely to see it distributed on the company’s next flagship. Selling Android phones in the old way isn’t an option without Google as a collaborator. The undesirable externality would be that a huge number of people across Europe and Asia, who might have rightly expected at least another Android OS version update, would find themselves with lesser devices than they paid for. Samsung would be among the few beneficiaries from this confrontation, having been losing market share to Huawei across global phone markets.

The world’s two leading economies are locking horns in an unprecedented manner, and Huawei finds itself in the middle of that clash. The company’s global reputation will suffer from this incident, no matter how quickly it’s resolved, as both consumer and commercial customers will be wary about buying into a company that might at any point be left without an OS upgrade plan. A resolution to the ongoing trade dispute between the US and China is now more urgent than ever. However, China is unlikely to react positively to the bullying tactics of the US. And that means Huawei’s phone business may be in limbo for a while yet.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/20/18632266/huawei-android-google-ban-phone-business-future
 
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lol living in a fools paradise poor google i m delighted to see whats happening to america destroying themselve its survival of the fittest after all
 
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lol living in a fools paradise poor google i m delighted to see whats happening to america destroying themselve its survival of the fittest after all
Google is much bigger than any smartphone brand TBH - an ecosystem of numerous services that have legs in numerous fields and lines of work. To Google, Huawei is just another customer in an already long list.

Chinese leadership should make a deal with Trump administration at earliest, for the sake of Chinese tech giants.
 
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Without access to Google codes, Huawei is finished.
 
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Huawei can forget about selling phones outside China if Google does not take back its decision. Not many are going to buy a smartphone without Android.
 
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Losing Android would be a short term hit to Huawei's sales but my guess is that they are already working on an alternative and will roll it iut soon enough. The Chinese market will shift fairly quickly to the alternative and my guess is that just the Chinese brands were able to make headway into the smartphone market, the alternative OS will also make gains quickly enough.

Ultimately google will loose a lot of market share by forcing a competitor to emerge in the eastern markets. My guess is the EU would also be looking at this whole situation keenly.


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Google is much bigger than any smartphone brand TBH - an ecosystem of numerous services that have legs in numerous fields and lines of work. To Google, Huawei is just another customer in an already long list.

Chinese leadership should make a deal with Trump administration at earliest, for the sake of Chinese tech giants.
The fact is, Trump's deal is not a deal. It is worse than surrender deal. China will never sign that deal. I think Huawei can lower their phones price. Without American chips and softwares does make things cheaper anyways. Low price is a good method for establishing self ecosystem.
 
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Huawei Mobile Users Ponder Switching Brand After Google News


LONDON/MUMBAI (Reuters) - Time to abandon the Huawei phone? That was what some owners asked after U.S. tech giant Google said it would suspend its business with China's top mobile maker, threatening future access to Gmail, YouTube and Chrome.

Google said on Monday it would comply with an order by U.S. President Donald Trump to stop supplying Huawei, meaning it would no longer be able to offer its popular Android apps to buyers of new Huawei phones.

The order to U.S. companies could affect tens of millions of consumers in Europe, its biggest market outside mainland China.

"I was absolutely shocked," Luna Angellica, the Dutch owner of a new Huawei P smart+ contacted by Reuters in London, said after the Google news. She was already "considering saving up" for a rival model, she added.

Trump's move, said to be motivated by spying concerns amid a bitter trade war with China, could at a single blow derail Huawei's ambitions to overtake Samsung as the world's biggest phone maker.

"I like the phone so much - I'm just kinda scared one day I'll be forced to buy another phone," said Anthony Chiringa, who lives in Nairobi and bought his Huawei Y7 for $180 two weeks ago.

"Buying a new phone to replace another one will be another expense for me. Rather Huawei should come up with a way whereby the current Huawei users can be able to replace their phones for free," he said.

Emerging economies such as Kenya are key to Huawei's ambitions as it seeks to sell more low- to mid-priced handsets outside China. India, where Huawei now has only single-figure market share, is also potentially vital.

"I was already in two minds about buying the phone," said Sumeet Lyallpuri, 46, a businessman in Mumbai who had been considering upgrading his existing Huawei to the brand's P30.

"Now if Google updates are not available for Huawei phones, Google Play or apps such as YouTube are not there I wouldn’t want to buy the phone at least for the time being," he said.


Manish Khatri, the owner of a smartphone shop in Mumbai, India's financial hub, said some customers had been looking for Huawei phones. "Now with Google deciding to have a limited relationship with Huawei I will direct customers to other smartphones brands such as Samsung or Apple," he said.

USERS "PUNISHED"

Huawei said on Monday it would continue to provide security updates and services for its smartphones and tablets that have already been sold.

And Google's team working on the Android operating system told Huawei users on its Twitter @Android account it would comply with U.S. requirements while ensuring "services like Google Play & security from Google Play Protect will keep functioning on your existing Huawei device."

Replies to the tweet ranged from frustration to worry.

"So because of a US law, you actually punish millions of international users by banning them?" wrote Andreas Benjaminsen, who described himself as an open source enthusiast on @photolsen account. Twitter user Ania K. wrote on @kuleczka1983: "I am very worried ... I'm the owner of a P30 Pro".

Neither user could immediately be reached for comment.

Operators, who tie phones into their networks with mobile line contracts for calls and data, were also racing to determine the impact on their businesses from Google's decision.

"We are reviewing the details of the executive order to understand any potential implications for our customers," Spain's Telefonica, Europe's third largest mobile operator.

Hutchison's British network operator Three told customers that Huawei's routers and devices would continue working, but also said it was seeking further information.

"We are in discussions with Huawei and will provide a further update as soon as we can," the firm said in statement.

https://www.usnews.com/news/technol...sers-ponder-switching-brand-after-google-news
 
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Google is much bigger than any smartphone brand TBH - an ecosystem of numerous services that have legs in numerous fields and lines of work. To Google, Huawei is just another customer in an already long list.

Chinese leadership should make a deal with Trump administration at earliest, for the sake of Chinese tech giants.
google only has nokia and android software in smart phone realm nothing else

Without access to Google codes, Huawei is finished.
you dont know shit so dont post what you dont know i hate people who are wizard on something they dont even have iq to contemplate
 
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google only has nokia and android software in smart phone realm nothing else


you dont know shit so dont post what you dont know i hate people who are wizard on something they dont even have iq to contemplate
Nokia is not owned by Google.
 
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Banning of Huwei will raise many funadamental question to the mobile phone customers who purchase chines brand phones..
Currently there are no other popular eco system that is available other than Android and Apple to be used in Mob phone.
 
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Just build around it google and the US, don't bother with them.
 
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Even though Huawei comes with a backup plan and introduces it's own OS, they would face a daunting task of getting the app developers to develop custom apps for their OS. Nokia, Microsoft, BB all have tried and failed miserably eventually adopting Android. Also, China doesn't have a well established fab industry like the US or Taiwan and would take atleast 5-10 years to catch up in that regard
 
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