Huawei remains far behind its competitors: Kirin 710A not competitive in the test

[F-22Raptor]

With its first Chinese-manufactured SoC, Huawei did not prove to be competitive - at least not in the price range targeted by the Chinese manufacturer. Even the 230 Euros (~$275) recommended retail price for the P Smart 2021 are much too high for what you get. The potential of the chipset corresponds more to the current entry-level smartphones, and this dilemma may not change in the foreseeable future...

With its midrange P Smart 2021 model, Huawei uses a processor that is manufactured by its Chinese partner SMIC for the first time. The HiSilicon Kirin 710A is an octa-core SoC that is based on the Kirin 710 but was manufactured in the 14nm-FinFET process. The chipset integrates four Cortex A73 processor cores (2 GHz) and four Cortex A53 cores in the big.LITTLE architecture that have a clock speed of up to 1.7 GHz. The integrated graphics card is a Mali-G51 MP4, which has a weak performance.

But the CPU is not particularly powerful either. In our extensive test of the P Smart 2021, the chipset of the Huawei smartphone limps far behind the Snapdragon competitors. Even a Huawei P smart Pro with the Kirin 710, which already showed some deficits in the performance capabilities, places for the most part ahead of the P Smart 2021. The graphics tests such as the GFXBench benchmarks show a similar picture, only with the performance differences to an Adreno 618 of the Snapdragon 720 and Snapdragon 730 Qualcomm midrange being even more pronounced.

Even a Mediatek Helio G80 that is used in low-budget smartphones such as the Redmi 9A we recently tested, places ahead of the Kirin 710A in our performance rating.

If you want to get a more detailed impression of the P Smart 2021 despite its performance deficits, we recommend our extensive review of the Huawei smartphone.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Huawe...10A-not-competitive-in-the-test.506653.0.html

 

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It's going to improve once enough money is thrown into it.

 

[scope]

Caucasian Americans are cheaters and thieves. They can only "win" by sabotaging competitors by abruptly killing their supply chain and fabricating excuses about "national security" while the NSA and CIA steals everyone ip and taps even the phone of "allies" like Angela Merkel.

 

[Beidou2020]

Caucasian Americans are cheaters and thieves. They can only "win" by sabotaging competitors by abruptly killing their supply chain and fabricating excuses about "national security" while the NSA and CIA steals everyone ip and taps even the phone of "allies" like Angela Merkel.

Kirin 9000 was the best smartphone chip in the world. Kirin 9000 smoked all these white supremacists before they knew they couldn’t compete.

 

[Han Patriot]

With its first Chinese-manufactured SoC, Huawei did not prove to be competitive - at least not in the price range targeted by the Chinese manufacturer. Even the 230 Euros (~$275) recommended retail price for the P Smart 2021 are much too high for what you get. The potential of the chipset corresponds more to the current entry-level smartphones, and this dilemma may not change in the foreseeable future...

With its midrange P Smart 2021 model, Huawei uses a processor that is manufactured by its Chinese partner SMIC for the first time. The HiSilicon Kirin 710A is an octa-core SoC that is based on the Kirin 710 but was manufactured in the 14nm-FinFET process. The chipset integrates four Cortex A73 processor cores (2 GHz) and four Cortex A53 cores in the big.LITTLE architecture that have a clock speed of up to 1.7 GHz. The integrated graphics card is a Mali-G51 MP4, which has a weak performance.

But the CPU is not particularly powerful either. In our extensive test of the P Smart 2021, the chipset of the Huawei smartphone limps far behind the Snapdragon competitors. Even a Huawei P smart Pro with the Kirin 710, which already showed some deficits in the performance capabilities, places for the most part ahead of the P Smart 2021. The graphics tests such as the GFXBench benchmarks show a similar picture, only with the performance differences to an Adreno 618 of the Snapdragon 720 and Snapdragon 730 Qualcomm midrange being even more pronounced.

Even a Mediatek Helio G80 that is used in low-budget smartphones such as the Redmi 9A we recently tested, places ahead of the Kirin 710A in our performance rating.

If you want to get a more detailed impression of the P Smart 2021 despite its performance deficits, we recommend our extensive review of the Huawei smartphone.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Huawe...10A-not-competitive-in-the-test.506653.0.html

Why are you comparing apples to oranges, the best mobile processor is the kirin 9000, no qualcomm chip can come near Jose.

 

[Beast]

SMIC will soon launch the 7nm manufacturing by end of this year. You cant wait for it to happen,, right?

 

[F-22Raptor]

Why are you comparing apples to oranges, the best mobile processor is the kirin 9000, no qualcomm chip can come near Jose.

The Snapdragon 888 outperforms Kirin 9000 in almost every way. As well as A14 Bionic, but it’s more difficult to compare those two.

Snapdragon 888 vs Kirin 9000 specs at the link:

https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/qualcomm-snapdragon-875-vs-hisilicon-kirin-9000

Kirin 9000 was the best smartphone chip in the world. Kirin 9000 smoked all these white supremacists before they knew they couldn’t compete.

Not true, A14 Bionic and Snapdragon 888 outperform Kirin 9000. Link above for 888 vs 9000.

 

[Han-Tang]

We just need LOL

 

[Beidou2020]

The Snapdragon 888 outperforms Kirin 9000 in almost every way. As well as A14 Bionic, but it’s more difficult to compare those two.

Snapdragon 888 vs Kirin 9000 specs at the link:

https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/qualcomm-snapdragon-875-vs-hisilicon-kirin-9000


Not true, A14 Bionic and Snapdragon 888 outperform Kirin 9000. Link above for 888 vs 9000.

I need to see the actual tests while it’s taking place. Not some number given by some people and we are supposed to believe them. There is a lot of anti-Huawei bias. So I will wait for more information on this.

Regardless, even according to these unverified numbers, the benchmark scores are very close. Very little difference between the two. Again with these unverified numbers.

This shows Chinese chip design is world class and have caught up to the US. Now China is concentrating on chip making equipment. A lot of progress is being made in this area. Much faster than most people think.

 

[vi-va]

Fake news.
Kirin 990 out performed Apple in every aspect.
Apple, No innovation for damn 10 years.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

Come back again in 5~10 years time when China has successful shred itself of all its traces of US related technology.
What US did will only backfires only itself in the longer run. It will staggered companies like ZTE, Huawei, etc now but it will be over sooner than anticipated.

Look at China Longson and Phytium CPU chips, it has reached record historical sales for the first time since their founding.

The semiconductors is an East Asian playing field and not those from the West.

 

[Han Patriot]

The Snapdragon 888 outperforms Kirin 9000 in almost every way. As well as A14 Bionic, but it’s more difficult to compare those two.

Snapdragon 888 vs Kirin 9000 specs at the link:

https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/qualcomm-snapdragon-875-vs-hisilicon-kirin-9000


Not true, A14 Bionic and Snapdragon 888 outperform Kirin 9000. Link above for 888 vs 9000.

You need to perform it to a benchmark not some theoretical comparison. Look for a Spec benchmark please.

 

[rott]

Why are you comparing apples to oranges, the best mobile processor is the kirin 9000, no qualcomm chip can come near Jose.

Jose?

 

[F-22Raptor]

I need to see the actual tests while it’s taking place. Not some number given by some people and we are supposed to believe them. There is a lot of anti-Huawei bias. So I will wait for more information on this.

Regardless, even according to these unverified numbers, the benchmark scores are very close. Very little difference between the two. Again with these unverified numbers.

This shows Chinese chip design is world class and have caught up to the US. Now China is concentrating on chip making equipment. A lot of progress is being made in this area. Much faster than most people think.

Yes, chip design that completely relies on American technology to create.

You need to perform it to a benchmark not some theoretical comparison. Look for a Spec benchmark please.

Once again, the A14 an Snap 888 outperform Kirin 9000. The Kirin BTW that relies on American technology to create.

Fake news.
Kirin 990 out performed Apple in every aspect.
Apple, No innovation for damn 10 years.

No innovation? Huawei has ridden Apples coattails for years. And their AirPods and Watches have been huge successes. And I fully expect their smart glasses releasing in 2-3 years will change the game once again.

 

[Beidou2020]

Yes, chip design that completely relies on American technology to create.


Once again, the A14 an Snap 888 outperform Kirin 9000. The Kirin BTW that relies on American technology to create.

China’s 28nm DUV lithography will be delivered next year. It can make up to 7nm chips.

China has already developed the mirrors for the EUV lithography machine. The light source (LPP or DPP) is the final piece of the puzzle for the EUV lithography. Great progress is being made in developing the light source.

The de-Americanisation of the semiconductor chain is going far better than most people predicted and expected. China has been preparing for this for a long time.