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Huawei Is a Paralyzing Dilemma for the West
Western democracies are struggling to balance the geopolitical challenge of China with their need for 5G technology. A common approach is essential.

By Andreas Kluth
November 23, 2019, 3:00 PM GMT+8
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Except not yet, and not everywhere. Photographer: Bloomberg/Bloomberg

Geopolitics is a difficult enough subject. When it’s wrapped inside impenetrable technical jargon and fiddly gadgets, it can become paralyzing. This, roughly, is what’s happened to western countries as two things collide: the ominous rise of authoritarian China and the global shift to fifth-generation wireless data infrastructure, the basis of the so-called Fourth Industrial Revolution.

That’s because a Chinese company, Huawei Technologies Co., sits at the intersection of those two developments, and the West has to decide whether it can be trusted to build its new 5G networks. The U.S., China’s geopolitical foil, has banned Huawei from its own market and wants allies to do the same. Australia and Japan have in effect followed. Others thinking about excluding Huawei include New Zealand, Canada, India, Denmark, the Czech Republic and Poland.

Other western states, while still agonizing about the dilemma, seem inclined to allow Huawei to participate in the 5G build-out, albeit within certain parameters. They include France, the U.K., Germany and Norway. Most countries that have given Huawei a green light are outside the geopolitical West, including Russia, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia.

So who’s right? It’s hard to know. Huawei, based in Shenzhen, is not owned by the state — being Chinese, it’s somewhere between collectively and privately owned. It was founded by Ren Zhengfei, who once worked as a researcher for the People’s Liberation Army. But he and his firm insist that Huawei never has built, nor ever would build, so-called “backdoors” into its equipment that would let it spy on, or sabotage, its customers’ networks.

There are arguments for giving Huawei the benefit of the doubt. First, it tends to be cheaper than its rivals, which include the European companies Ericsson and Nokia Oyj. Second, it seems to be quicker. Earlier this year, Deutsche Telekom AG, a German cellphone operator, claimed that rolling out 5G without Huawei would delay its network by at least two years and add billions in cost.

Then there’s the risk that excluding Huawei could antagonize China on trade and investment. In Germany, the bureaucracies opposed to Huawei are the spy agencies and the interior ministry, both tasked with security, whereas the economics ministry and the chancellery, both concerned with the overall Sino-German relationship, are more accommodating.

Finally, there are the principles of fairness and economic openness. There’s no evidence that Huawei has spied on its customers. And part of what makes the West “western,” or at least liberal, is that it doesn’t close its markets to others without good reasons.

Huawei’s critics, of course, have plenty of reasons for its exclusion. First, it’s implausible that any Chinese company can avoid becoming an arm of the state and the Communist Party. China’s National Intelligence Law of 2017 requires all the country’s companies to “assist” in national intelligence, and to keep that assistance secret. An earlier law defines national security as including economics and culture.

Second, 5G isn’t any old phone network. Unlike 4G, it’s the infrastructure for machines and devices to talk to one another on the so-called Internet of Things. If it works well, it will make entire cities “smart” and enable autonomous cars to drive themselves through them, all the while exchanging reams of data. Think of the human body: If 4G is the ears, 5G is the entire nervous system. Would you want China to have control over it?

The fear is not overblown. Whoever provides the software and hardware for 5G will also have a head-start in eventually transferring that prowess into 6G and 7G. And once a technology is baked in, a simple software update could turn a harmless feature into a mole. A banal analogy would be your smartphone, when its maker schedules an update that adds emoticons but suddenly seems to drain the battery much faster — and all of this coincidentally just before the launch of a new model.

So caution is advisable. Even at the risk of slowing down the roll-out, regulators would be wise to assure diversity among suppliers. They should also ring-fence the most sensitive parts of the infrastructure. Procurement rules can’t discriminate against individual companies, but they should establish criteria of trustworthiness. Suppliers that can’t fully meet them would be allowed to play only in the network’s periphery.

Just as important, the western allies must coordinate their approach. It makes little sense for, say, Denmark to exclude Huawei while Germany next door includes it. Autonomous cars, trucks and boats, geo-tagged goods in containers, patients with heart monitors: All of these and other connected nodes on the network will be moving across the border, constantly communicating with different “clouds” of server computers in the background. The data have to be safe on both sides of the border.

The West and its allies must therefore come to a common position on Huawei — and ideally on both China and data security generally. 5G and its successors have an almost utopian potential to solve many human problems. They also have a dystopian potential to turn our freedoms into a surveillance hell. The democracies need to confront this reality.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...etworks-are-a-paralyzing-dilemma-for-the-west
 
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5G is the future of everything. Economics, development, military. It is the Atom bomb of our age and it appears China has the lead. I see China dethroning the US as as the single super power in not more than 15 years and for the first time we are in the right Camp so you can imagine where Pakistan is headed.
 
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Can't imagine a private Chinese company barely 20 years old put the whole western world in such a difficult situation.


Just goes to show that the West can be beaten if someone large and determined enough takes them on.

Bit pathetic US response to Huawei in my opinion,
 
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5G is the future of everything. Economics, development, military. It is the Atom bomb of our age and it appears China has the lead. I see China dethroning the US as as the single super power in not more than 15 years and for the first time we are in the right Camp so you can imagine where Pakistan is headed.
pakistan is still headed to nowhere my friend... you wont achieve nothing if you dont have constructive attitude. we are still not good or near to good.
i hope things will change. i will not write anything more about pakistan and its condition from now on , on this forum.
 
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Can't imagine a private Chinese company barely 20 years old put the whole western world in such a difficult situation.

It is not difficult at all. All you need is a little supervision.

If a country is worry about Huawei would do the Chinese government bidding, they will pay more and use US or Swedish system. For country that would be using Huawei, all they need to do is to demand a more transparent approach to install and maintain the system, and most important of all, have the core system monitored by their own people instead of Huawei people to make sure there would be no leak.

Mind you, people in Europe are more data sensitive than people in Australia or America, they are more conscious about data security than people in US or other places. And if they want to cheap out a few buck and work with Huawei, I am pretty sure they would have ways to secure their own data, either way, they know the risk
 
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Huawei, based in Shenzhen, is not owned by the state — being Chinese, it’s somewhere between collectively and privately owned.

Can you tell me more about this ??
 
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5G is the future of everything. Economics, development, military. It is the Atom bomb of our age and it appears China has the lead. I see China dethroning the US as as the single super power in not more than 15 years and for the first time we are in the right Camp so you can imagine where Pakistan is headed.

It’s only about price not capability. If China wants to sell hardware at prices substantially lower than the competition you have to raise red flags as to the possible reason for this.
 
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It’s only about price not capability. If China wants to sell hardware at prices substantially lower than the competition you have to raise red flags as to the possible reason for this.
It seems that Huawei is selling equipment with higher price tag, Huawei beat Nokia and Ericsson because better equipment and higher performance.
 
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It seems that Huawei is selling equipment with higher price tag, Huawei beat Nokia and Ericsson because better equipment and higher performance.

Where do you see that written??
Everybody has been talking about cost.
 
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US has not been aggressive enough on Huawei. If they want they can completely destroy this CCP company but Trump is too weak on China. He’s using Huawei as a bargaining chip for his useless trade deal than making it his mission to completely isolate and destroy this company. Huawei is most definitely an arm of CCP intelligence agency. Trump only cares about Trump. He doesn’t view the CCP as an existential threat to the free world. All he wants is a trade deal for his re-election. A strong leader would have cut off this company from the US banking and financial system, no access to the dollar, technology access banned, and most importantly put third party sanctions on any company or individual doing business with Huawei. He should have demanded US cyberwar operations against the company to cripple it like against Iran’s nuclear program and put international arrest warrants for Huawei executives. Trump is to blame for this weak and gutless response to the threat Huawei poses to the free world.
 
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Where do you see that written??
Everybody has been talking about cost.
Ren Zhengfei said that in an interview couple of month ago, he said actually Huawei equipment price is higher, but performance is better, so more cost effective.
 
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Um..no..according to a lobbying group backed by Huawei

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...f-chinese-vendors-banned-telcos-idUSKCN1T80Y3
Europe's 5G to cost $62 billion more if Chinese vendors banned: telcos
You don't get it or you are less patient to understand what's going on in details?
If Europe ban Huawei for security reason, then they will have to replace Huawei 3G/4G equipment as well, that's very costly.
Second, Huawei can upgrade EU existing equipment, make 4G and 5G work together, so that the transition will be smooth and cost much less.
Third, the current EU carriers have been working with Huawei for so many years, transition to another equipment provider will delay the deployment of 5G, also requires new training of employees.
It's huge project, which EU can avoid and save tens of billions. If EU insist to do so due to US pressure, then consumers will pay the bills.
 
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