How will the defense market react to the obvious obsolete S300 and S400 systems?

[Apollon]

S300 and S400 were proven in Ukraine as complete failure and ineffective to achieve their goals. So far Ukraine could several times outsmart the system and destroy russian assets of high value. The russian amphibious landing ship Saratov was destroyed even so it was under the S400 systems "guard". Even worse, the russian flagship Moskva was equipped with a marine version of the S300 but sunk easily. It is obvious the S300 and S400 are a failure and propably only work under laboratory and test conditions.

What implications will this have on countries who bought those systems and now witness how dysfunctional they are? Many nations trust their defense on those systems now now must quickly look for alternatives. On other hand no new customers will buy a system that has proven to not working.

 

[Maea]

An AD is as effective as its operator.
For exemple do you remember the multiple hit Yemeni Rebels have scored against saudis dispite the later having Patriot AD.
It depends on crew training and enemy tactics.
See also 2020 Armenia-Azerbaijan war.

 

[Viet]

S300 and S400 were proven in Ukraine as complete failure and ineffective to achieve their goals. So far Ukraine could several times outsmart the system and destroy russian assets of high value. The russian amphibious landing ship Saratov was destroyed even so it was under the S400 systems "guard". Even worse, the russian flagship Moskva was equipped with a marine version of the S300 but sunk easily. It is obvious the S300 and S400 are a failure and propably only work under laboratory and test conditions.

What implications will this have on countries who bought those systems and now witness how dysfunctional they are? Many nations trust their defense on those systems now now must quickly look for alternatives. On other hand no new customers will buy a system that has proven to not working.

Ask the Turks. They buy S400 instead of F35 fighter jets. To be effective you need both hardware and manpower. Russian soldiers don’t know they go to war because Putin lied to them.
Vietnam has S300 with S400 radars. We know what we fight for. Not for washing machine and Nutella.

 

[Beast]

The fact, the system operate by moron of IQ 20 that still can last few rounds , prove how good the system is. Imagine it's operate by a normal human being?

 

[Foinikas]

An AD is as effective as its operator.
For exemple do you remember the multiple hit Yemeni Rebels have scored against saudis dispite the later having Patriot AD.
It depends on crew training and enemy tactics.
See also 2020 Armenia-Azerbaijan war.

The Armenians and Syrians had very old S-300 versions to be fair. I agree with you on the operator though. Skilled operators have downed aircraft with old Soviet AA systems(for example in Yugoslavia).

Ukraine – S-300PT, S-300PS, S-300PMU, S-300V1.[144] Only six systems were kept in working conditions between 2004 and 2014; as a result only 40% of Ukrainian S-300 systems were in good condition prior to 2014.[145] Due to the war with Russia Ukraine started repairing and pushing back to service several armaments included several S-300 batteries,[146] with at least 4 batteries overhauled in the period 2014–15. 34 launchers remained in the Crimea after 2014 Russian annexation of Crimea.[147]