How to develop Karachi? Do not vote for MQM and PPP

[Slav Defence]

Sorry if I misunderstood.

Too much MQM walas in this thread, hence the chance of misunderstanding. You are my favorite poster sir ji.

Aray,aap ne meri post ghour se perh li?
No worries, I understand that current situation of Karachi frustrates you like it is frustrating us!
However, worrying is not the solution nor we can just kick em all out.We know that political party depends upon the support it gets from the voters- that is why democracy is degenerated into tyranny in underdeveloped countries like India and Pakistan, as we don't have higher literacy rate.Our conventional political morality must be dictated by committee of wiser tribunes,but heck we don't even have greys among us.
Regards

 

[Patriots]

it depends on who do we vote.

If we vote for MQM without ever voting for another party,
then for all practical purposes, MQM will own Karachi as their jagir, fiefdom and Altaf bhai becomes defecto Jagirdar, dada, honcho of Karachi.

So it is us the voters who make or break a party's iron hold

What you say is effect and not cause.

Didn't people make PTI a second largest party in Karachi ... But did PTI get bothered to own Karachi ... My answer a big NO ...................

 

[FaujHistorian]

Didn't people make PTI a second largest party in Karachi ... But did PTI get bothered to own Karachi ... My answer a big NO ...................

Valid point. Very valid.

 

[Gazi]

You said Karachi walas are not racist, they absorb all communities and blah blah blah,

If a Pathan landed in Karachi, his next destination will be banaras, site, korangi or Qaidabad and some other communities,

and same as pathan other communities has their own small communities.

Gulshan, Tariq Road, Metroville even Orangi Town is MIXED areas and those Pathans who end up in Banarus are not due to any kind of Restriction in other Neighborhoods its because of their AFFORDABILITY as well. They dont have enough money to buy Rs. 6Million for an average 120 Yards house in other areas like Gulshan or Nazimabad which is itself quite underestimated figure I am quoting you so they end up buying house in Banarus Al Asif, Chapal Garden etc which are available within Rs.1 Million. Frankly speaking you have very little Knowledge of things you are discussing here as you dont even know the social Dynamics completely and here for the sack of Argument only.

Their is no brotherhood, everyone either peoples or political parties are craving for money and Power, and all the bloodshed started from 80s is all about power and money not for anyone rights.

As far as I know Urdu Speaking peoples are great, having tons of govt. Jobs and dominating private sector of Pakistan largest city are more blessed then any other community in Pakistan even more then Punjabis in some way and I am very happy for them but it hurts when some pathetic goon claim him bhai of muhajirs that hmain occupied kashmir ki trha treat kiya ja rha hai blah blah blah .... Is it make sense ??? Are muhajir living like balochs ???? No they are living far better then sindhis in sindh so stop being muhajir.... Metha metha hip hip karwa karwa tho tho ni chale ga

These are my thoughts you can happily disagree with them.

Of course there is no Brotherhood as everyone tend to look at their Interest but their is no Discrimination either as long as their is a trigger Effect like in the past Qasba Calony incident.

Urdu Speakers does have significant Representation in Private Sector but that is not because of being favored rather its because of their QUALIFICATION because unlike other communities in Pakistan Urdu Speakers still tend to focus on Education irrespective of cost as most of the people even in Lower Middle Class areas send their children to Private Schools and try very hard that their children at least Graduate even though they have to make monitory Sacrifices on other things so that is why they are EARNING their place in Private Sector rather then getting any FAVORS FROM GOVT. like the way other communities are getting due to Quota system and BTW Karachiite are Quite Marginal in Govt. Institutions thanks to Quota system that is why we got Corrupt people Paying large bribes to get transferred to Karachi and recover their Bribes with Profits.

 

[Sipahi]

Gulshan, Tariq Road, Metroville even Orangi Town is MIXED areas and those Pathans who end up in Banarus are not due to any kind of Restriction in other Neighborhoods its because of their AFFORDABILITY as well. They dont have enough money to buy Rs. 6Million for an average 120 Yards house in other areas like Gulshan or Nazimabad which is itself quite underestimated figure I am quoting you so they end up buying house in Banarus Al Asif, Chapal Garden etc which are available within Rs.1 Million. Frankly speaking you have very little Knowledge of things you are discussing here as you dont even know the social Dynamics completely and here for the sack of Argument only.

Of course there is no Brotherhood as everyone tend to look at their Interest but their is no Discrimination either as long as their is a trigger Effect like in the past Qasba Calony incident.

Urdu Speakers does have significant Representation in Private Sector but that is not because of being favored rather its because of their QUALIFICATION because unlike other communities in Pakistan Urdu Speakers still tend to focus on Education irrespective of cost as most of the people even in Lower Middle Class areas send their children to Private Schools and try very hard that their children at least Graduate even though they have to make monitory Sacrifices on other things so that is why they are EARNING their place in Private Sector rather then getting any FAVORS FROM GOVT. like the way other communities are getting due to Quota system and BTW Karachiite are Quite Marginal in Govt. Institutions thanks to Quota system that is why we got Corrupt people Paying large bribes to get transferred to Karachi and recover their Bribes with Profits.

Gulshan, tariq road, PECHS, bahadurabad, defence, north nazimabad are higher or higher middle class communities and jis k pass paisa hai wo wahan khareedta hai.... So bekar ka argument tha... When a pathan population can buy homes in neighbour of azizabad easily then tell me ... :-/

you knowledge man keep it to yourself an irratating a "Phata hua sathi" can be i know well are you are acting like that,


do you a favour, check the ratio of population to
govt. Jobs...... Muhajir ratio will be far higher than punjabi, pathan annd sindhi.

Parhe likhe log KMC, Abbasi Shaheed Hospital aur water board se nikale jaa rahe hain waja khate kisi ka hain aur gaate kisi hain

stop quoting me.

 

[Patriots]

Gulshan, tariq road, PECHS, bahadurabad, defence, north nazimabad are higher or higher middle class communities and jis k pass paisa hai wo wahan khareedta hai.... So bekar ka argument tha... When a pathan population can buy homes in neighbour of azizabad easily then tell me ... :-/

First of all N. Nazimabad is strongest hold of MQM more than Azizabad ... You can figure out past election results ... Secondly Pashtuns reside near Azizabad ... 1) Bhangoria Town 2) Zia-ul-Haq Colony ... As well as they work in Azizabad, Dastagir, Gharibabad, Hussainabad & Karimabad etc ..............

 

[Gazi]

Gulshan, tariq road, PECHS, bahadurabad, defence, north nazimabad are higher or higher middle class communities and jis k pass paisa hai wo wahan khareedta hai.... So bekar ka argument tha... When a pathan population can buy homes in neighbour of azizabad easily then tell me ... :-/

Do you know the Property Value of Azizabad even????I have Quoted Rs.6Million for 120 Yards house which is Underestimated figure for Azizabad right now. Areas where MQM is Influential are quite Expensive for Pashtun DOminated Area's standards. Chapal Garden, Al Asif, aur Baqi Pathan Abadi walay Ilaqoon mai Rs. 8 say 10 Lakh ka Aik Flat miljaiga apko kisi MQM k area mai Rs20 Lakh say kam ka Bab ji ka Thullu hi milaiga. Try to understand the Affordability as well that is why their are so many Ghettos in Karachi because people cant AFFORD to buy or rent in Settled Areas.

you knowledge man keep it to yourself an irratating a "Phata hua sathi" can be i know well are you are acting like that,

You can call me Sathi or whatever but one thing is for sure you are Quite Unaware of Karachi to the point that either you are still a Student or you havent lived in Karachi that long. In both cases you are not Exposed to Market which shape the knowledge and awareness of a person towards Maturity.

do you a favour, check the ratio of population to
govt. Jobs...... Muhajir ratio will be far higher than punjabi, pathan annd sindhi.

Parhe likhe log KMC, Abbasi Shaheed Hospital aur water board se nikale jaa rahe hain waja khate kisi ka hain aur gaate kisi hain

stop quoting me.

Ratio of Population in Govt. Job in Karachi are Higher for Sindhis not Muhajirs. Get your Facts corrected Muhajirs are Dominating Private Sector not the Govt. Sector.

KMC, Abbasi Shaheed etc mai Ghosts Mulazimeen ka safaya hu raha hai aur Corrupt Officers ka bhi us mai jo jo shamil hai zad mai a raha hai chahay woh MQM ka hu ya PP ka ya koi Bureaucrat ki Parchi. Sab k uper Karwai hu rahi hai aur is Karwai say mai bilkul Agree karta hun k Corruption k khilaaf jo hu raha hai sahi Hu raha hai lakin baqi jo kuch hu araha hai us pay Sawalia Nishan hain.

 

[Sipahi]

First of all N. Nazimabad is strongest hold of MQM more than Azizabad ... You can figure out past election results ... Secondly Pashtuns reside near Azizabad ... 1) Bhangoria Town 2) Zia-ul-Haq Colony ... As well as they work in Azizabad, Dastagir, Gharibabad, Hussainabad & Karimabad etc ..............

North Nazimabad has mixed population and mixed vote bank, in Block B there is "khando goth, Musa Goth behind hydri there is qalandria chowk and several small goth and colony are there in North Nazimabad. Jamat e Islami has strong vote bank too.

in bhangoria and Zia ul haq there is mixed population but muhajir are dominating.

Do you know the Property Value of Azizabad even????I have Quoted Rs.6Million for 120 Yards house which is Underestimated figure for Azizabad right now. Areas where MQM is Influential are quite Expensive for Pashtun DOminated Area's standards. Chapal Garden, Al Asif, aur Baqi Pathan Abadi walay Ilaqoon mai Rs. 8 say 10 Lakh ka Aik Flat miljaiga apko kisi MQM k area mai Rs20 Lakh say kam ka Bab ji ka Thullu hi milaiga. Try to understand the Affordability as well that is why their are so many Ghettos in Karachi because people cant AFFORD to buy or rent in Settled Areas.

You can call me Sathi or whatever but one thing is for sure you are Quite Unaware of Karachi to the point that either you are still a Student or you havent lived in Karachi that long. In both cases you are not Exposed to Market which shape the knowledge and awareness of a person towards Maturity.

Ratio of Population in Govt. Job in Karachi are Higher for Sindhis not Muhajirs. Get your Facts corrected Muhajirs are Dominating Private Sector not the Govt. Sector.

KMC, Abbasi Shaheed etc mai Ghosts Mulazimeen ka safaya hu raha hai aur Corrupt Officers ka bhi us mai jo jo shamil hai zad mai a raha hai chahay woh MQM ka hu ya PP ka ya koi Bureaucrat ki Parchi. Sab k uper Karwai hu rahi hai aur is Karwai say mai bilkul Agree karta hun k Corruption k khilaaf jo hu raha hai sahi Hu raha hai lakin baqi jo kuch hu araha hai us pay Sawalia Nishan hain.

you are the most aware person on Karachi,

Don't Pathans have enough to buy homes in Azizabad ???????? the question is not about the value of property they question is " Do MQM will allow them ? the anwer is a facepalm on your face.... NO. (now don't lecture me that what MQM has to do with that ....)

When I was a student, I worked for APMSO for 2,3 months and memorize that " Hum Baniyan e Pakistan ki auladain ..................." but when I see how they worked, I left

I fully support that Sawalia Nishan, every goon should have behind the bar,

 

[Patriots]

North Nazimabad has mixed population and mixed vote bank, in Block B there is "khando goth, Musa Goth behind hydri there is qalandria chowk and several small goth and colony are there in North Nazimabad. Jamat e Islami has strong vote bank too.

in bhangoria and Zia ul haq there is mixed population but muhajir are dominating.

There is not a question who dominates ... I just tried to clear your query about Pashtuns residence in Azizabad or near ... I told you that Pashtuns are residing over there and as you said that these are mixed localities under Mohajir influence ... Therefore you should be happy that Pashtuns and other ethnic groups are living over there peacefully and nobody hurts them ......

 

[Patriots]

Don't Pathans have enough to buy homes in Azizabad ???????? the question is not about the value of property they question is " Do MQM will allow them ? the anwer is a facepalm on your face.... NO. (now don't lecture me that what MQM has to do with that ....)

Do you know something about life style of Pathans..???? They always like to be in their community ... They even don't try ti get property in Azizabad and other parts of the city where single ethnic group dominates ... That's why they build their own localities in all over the city ... Like Banaras, Ittehad colony, Shirin Jinnah colony, Sohrab goth, Quiadabad and Sherpao colony etc ......

Even you will hardly find Pathan in Golden Town which is dominated by Punjabis ........

 

[Gazi]

you are the most aware person on Karachi,

Don't Pathans have enough to buy homes in Azizabad ???????? the question is not about the value of property they question is " Do MQM will allow them ? the anwer is a facepalm on your face.... NO. (now don't lecture me that what MQM has to do with that ....)

When I was a student, I worked for APMSO for 2,3 months and memorize that " Hum Baniyan e Pakistan ki auladain ..................." but when I see how they worked, I left

I fully support that Sawalia Nishan, every goon should have behind the bar,

Doesnt Claim to most AWARE in anyway but I believe I know much more then you do by judging your very Generalized Arguments.

Buddy What do you think Azizabad is????A Citadel or something for MQM????Hypothetically if I agree on Azizabad then what about Gulistan-e-Jauhar even Mehmoodabad???There arent many Pashtuns living there either and they have almost same Property Value then Azizabad(Could be lower as well especially for Mehmoodabad).

Your APMSO time depends on Institution as well if you were Intermediate College Student then you made a Mistake while if you are University Student then APMSO is way Decent option then Jamiat, PSF and others and trust me on that.

 

[Glitcher]

The reason we didn't develop, because we supported same parties over and over and over and over based on ethnic and religious lines.

--- Thus we got more Mohajirism, Sindhism, and Islamism.

Had we supported parties based on development,
--- We would have seen development.


Punjab parties know, that they must show something positive at least in Lahore.

When Shahbaz Sharif was kicked out of country by Mush,

Who came to power there?

you guessed it! PML-Q (Chaudhry brathran)

And guess what PML-Q had to to do huge amount of development in Lahore.

Today everyone in Punjab knows that they must show some progress so the politicians show projects.

In Punjab all parties including PML-ABCDEFG, PTI, PPP, JI all have EQUAL chances of winning.

Punjabis are supporting ALL parties.
KPK too.

But sadly in Sindh (and particularly in Karachi)

In Sindh, we are blind followers. year after year we support ethnic gods aka Tafu mota chor and Bhutto-Zardari clan

MQM seats are secure not because of development, but due to Mohajirism.

So Karachi suffers
While Lahore develops.

Solution:
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we must adopt the principle.

you got my vote last time. Show me development.
if not, your are out.
No! I am not going to hear speeches and cries from London or Larkana.

Out!

out out out out out out!
I'll give a chance to the other guy, different guy. May be PTI, may be PML-N, may be martians. But MQM and PPP must be OUT! at least for one election cycle. At least!
I am sick and tired of you!
OUT!




it is not what government does with MQM

It is us the ordinary people do with MQM. That is just not vote for one election. That's all.

If the other party we vote, doesn't deliver to our expectation, bring back MQM again.

No one is suggesting to ban anyone.

Sir you say it like we have a choice no we dont even all youth of my area even my self voted for PTI but due to rigging that harami mota won things will not be better until the election in karachi be held under complete supervision of army because these harami jahil workers of MQM rig alot and they harass the staf

 

[Sipahi]

Doesnt Claim to most AWARE in anyway but I believe I know much more then you do by judging your very Generalized Arguments.

Buddy What do you think Azizabad is????A Citadel or something for MQM????Hypothetically if I agree on Azizabad then what about Gulistan-e-Jauhar even Mehmoodabad???There arent many Pashtuns living there either and they have almost same Property Value then Azizabad(Could be lower as well especially for Mehmoodabad).

Your APMSO time depends on Institution as well if you were Intermediate College Student then you made a Mistake while if you are University Student then APMSO is way Decent option then Jamiat, PSF and others and trust me on that.

fed up with this post

 

[pak-marine]

G Haan Yes do not vote .. After recent failure of PTI there are no viable political options left

So

Now karahietes should Vote for one and only

"""Rangers Qaumi Movement ""

 

[Asian.Century]

How to develop Karachi? Do not vote for MQM and PPP?

simple, What currently Rangers, Police and intelligence agencies are doing against armed terrorist wings in the city...Operation clean up, Karachites will rise itself!!