how to defend against a possible US invasion of Pakistan ?

[anonymus]

In case open hostilities break out between Pakistan and America, first thing the citizens of Pakistan should do is storm the american embassy and drag out all the rats holed up in there. That’s the american command centre in Pakistan and that will need dismantling first and foremost.

Wah Pakistani sher.

Storming embassy, Even though it may be a fad in countries having a particular religious profile,has someone ever questioned the morality of this act.

Embassies are protected by Vienna convention of diplomatic relations.It is one of the most inviolable law in international affairs and has never been violated except in Iranian hostage crisis,Japanese embassy hostage crisis and recent storming of Israeli embassy in Cairo.

Now many people here think that by storming an embassy they have done a very brave deed,this very pretext begs some question.

Is storming an embassy and taking defenceless diplomats hostage an act of valour?

Is it not a sign of impotence on part of stormtroopers?

How is it morally and philosophically different from an act of Rape?

Won't it be fitting for these stormtroopers to pick someone capable of defending like an American military outpost on border?

Gosh some people are brainwashed to such an extent that they can't even think straight.

 

[LeGenD]

Many people do no realize that US is already fighting a covert war in Pakistan but at a limited scale. The drone strike, CIA infiltration, and special forces raids are all part of this war. US has already killed thousands of people in this covert war in Pakistan (Afghanistan excluded).

Therefore, US is already militarily engaged in Pakistan.

The kind of operations being discussed in this thread would be overt in nature but it won't be Iraq style invasion. These operations are more likely to be aimed towards probable/designated terrorist safe-havens in Pakistan in various parts of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa, NWFP, and possibly Balochistan.

And honestly speaking, our military does have the resources to take decisive action against US forces. We are saving our resources for India. Therefore, all of this internet jingoism and chest-thumping is useless.

If we were as damn powerful as some fellow Pakistani try to claim, then the situation of this region would have been very different from what it is now.

In NWFP and FATA etc, the bazooka per capita count is very very high...

Does not matters. Armed civilians are no match against a professional military.

 

[asad71]

1. The thread starter needs to be thanked for this topic which is relevant and urgent. Starting a thought process by itself is the first step towards national defense.

2. Pakistanis at this juncture needs to reflect on the ideology and values for which the country was created. That will give you inner strength and unity. The Holy Qu'oran and the Hadith directs the Momin to the right course in any eventuality. Not "riposte", the Holy Qu'oran is your Doctrine of national defense. نَصْرٌ مِّن اللَّهِ وَفَتْحٌ قَرِيبٌ "Nasrum Minal Lahe wa Fathun Qarib". If you fight for the Truth, Victory shall be yours. For a Muslim it is an article of faith to bear arms to defend your nation if it is aggressed. If your house or land is occupied by the aggressor, you are required to fight and slaughter till your land/house is freed.

3. In mundane terms, remember the Algerians against the French; the Vietnamese against the Americans; the Iraqis, the Afghans against the Soviets and so on. While looking for the physical depth of Pakistan, you should not forget your cultural and spiritual depth spreading into the Ummah. All Muslims will forget their difference and stand by their brethren.

 

[Farooq]

Can our Chinese members tell us what is China's position in all of this?

To Indians: Don't bother replying. Most of us (Pakistanis) don't care what you think

 

[SatishChandra's Assistant]

Conventional arms are worthless against the United States; India's strategy for victory over the United States depends on destroying Washington and New York, with nuclear warheads already emplaced in these two cities by its special forces, BEFORE the United States does any thing, with a warning that additional U. S. cities will be destroyed, with nuclear warheads already emplaced in them, if there is any retaliation. Just one nuclear warhead of about twenty kilotons emplaced in each city will do the job. Just half a dozen nuclear warheads are needed to cover four cities in addition to Washington and New York though India said a few weeks ago that its nuclear warheads already emplaced in U. S. cities are way beyond the half a dozen that were originally mentioned. The only way the United States will be able to keep two, three, four or more additional cities from being destroyed, after the destruction of Washington and New York, is by doing nothing in return. Five years later India can finish the job with its coast-to-coast destruction.

 

[King123]

^^^^^^

What a false flag troller.

 

[Donatello]

There is going to be no invasion of Pakistan. Invasion means full fledged assault with the aim to capture enemy Capital and bring it under your flag. Islamabad ain't easy to capture considering the number of miles US tanks and armor will have to move up.

There may be limited strikes in the frontier areas, that's it.

 

[WHF]

has that tactic worked on afghanistan? those cavemen "taliban" are still giving americans a run for their money
when someone who doesnt have a clue on the topic, yet comments on it, then the result will be something similar to ur post.

Dude the tactics will work a 100% in pakistan.. Pakistan never wants to be an Afghanistan, it wants to progress, be wealthy, modern, strong, have neat shiny roads with mercs running on them, wants industries, want green fields with a happy population. And its needs made to turn afganistan into wat it is today. It needs kashmir to secure water and have more land and due to no muslim brotherhood, otherwise the ruling class in pakistan would not loose bangladesh.

Now imagine all ur roads dams buildings bombed, ur country being turned into somalia, heek the mere idea of this will make an average pakistani shiver to his limbs and they will beg for mercy before SAMMY..

 

[WHF]

There is going to be no invasion of Pakistan. Invasion means full fledged assault with the aim to capture enemy Capital and bring it under your flag. Islamabad ain't easy to capture considering the number of miles US tanks and armor will have to move up.

There may be limited strikes in the frontier areas, that's it.

This is more likely to happen..Now what is pakistan going to do against this threat .The way its going sooner or later us will strike the haqqanis..And if pakistan retaliates on US then they risk further military action on urban areas following with economic sanctions. So if an attack takes place the best the pakistanis can do is to tighten up the internal security and save their cities from further terrorist attacks as haqqanis will certainly target pakistani cities if they are not protected by the GOP..

pakistan is in no way to stop any military action by americans unless USA tries of an invasion..Pakistan cannot even risk being isolated by the NAto economy.. period.

 

[Peregrine]

Can our Chinese members tell us what is China's position in all of this?

To Indians: Don't bother replying. Most of us (Pakistanis) don't care what you think

Top Chinese security officials arrived in Pakistan today, a big slap on the face of all those, who said that China won't bother to support Pakistan.

 

[Zabaniyah]

okay...we are talking about a US attack on pakistan, not a opposite. Besides do you think those civilian americans will become soldiers?
use ur brain man

I didn't know they (trolls) actually had brains, thanks for letting me know.

@Topic: With today's economic climate, a new war front is unlikely. Now, I am not saying that Pakistan military would defeat a US invasion. The point is, none of the Pakistanis would welcome any American occupation.

Even in sanctions crippled Iraq, the world's most powerful military had a hard time occupying it. The operations that revolve around such occupations are very expensive if taken long.

The US is primarily concerned about militant attacks on US and NATO convoys. Apparently, those militant groups are backed by Pakistan.

Here's an interesting article:
US-Pakistan ties 'heading for meltdown'

For the US, the alternative supply route can be in Uzbekistan if things don't improve.

 

[Khan_patriot]

two phrases ALLAH HO AKBAR. JIHAD FI SABI LILLAH.......

 

[Jango]

I met a guy today, well a boy of about 17. He said to one of his friends that 'Chalo yar, Pakistan amreeka ki jang ab kabhi bhi honay lagi hai, tum kis ki side lay rahay ho? Kiya Pakistan kuch kar sakay ga'?

I blame it on the media and naive thinking. America is not going to invade Pakistan and put boots on the ground before the pullout from Afghanistan. Neither they are gonna come much further than a few miles of the border. This whole war scenario is really naive thinking and paranoia. Embargoes, sanctions and all that might come, but definitely not a war.

 

[Leviza]

This is more likely to happen..Now what is pakistan going to do against this threat .The way its going sooner or later us will strike the haqqanis..And if pakistan retaliates on US then they risk further military action on urban areas following with economic sanctions. So if an attack takes place the best the pakistanis can do is to tighten up the internal security and save their cities from further terrorist attacks as haqqanis will certainly target pakistani cities if they are not protected by the GOP..

pakistan is in no way to stop any military action by americans unless USA tries of an invasion..Pakistan cannot even risk being isolated by the NAto economy.. period.

lol thats what one bharti can dream off
well even if US just tried to hit any part of Pakistan , we will use full force to eliminate US factor from afghanistan soil and US knows this , Pakistani will not just sit there and see US attacking inside Pakistan...

US knows that if Pakistan with the help of US can get rid of USSR in Afghanistan then there are other powers who love to support Pakistan to get rid of USA in Afghanistan .. mind it Pakistan is not going anywhere, its USA who is more at risk then us ....

 

[fd24]

Conventional arms are worthless against the United States; India's strategy for victory over the United States depends on destroying Washington and New York, with nuclear warheads already emplaced in these two cities by its special forces, BEFORE the United States does any thing, with a warning that additional U. S. cities will be destroyed, with nuclear warheads already emplaced in them, if there is any retaliation. Just one nuclear warhead of about twenty kilotons emplaced in each city will do the job. Just half a dozen nuclear warheads are needed to cover four cities in addition to Washington and New York though India said a few weeks ago that its nuclear warheads already emplaced in U. S. cities are way beyond the half a dozen that were originally mentioned. The only way the United States will be able to keep two, three, four or more additional cities from being destroyed, after the destruction of Washington and New York, is by doing nothing in return. Five years later India can finish the job with its coast-to-coast destruction.

This is an interesting observation sir that must alarm the USA.