How to cut Western aid to Israel

[TürkHizbullah]

Dear fake-flag psyop'er:

1 - Türk hizbullahı (aka Hizbullahî Kurdî) is officially a terrorist structring. The leaders of this terrorist organization are wanted in Turkey and around the world with a red notice. It has an extremely radical, bigotary ideology and "head-chopper" organization.


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Attention to all of PDF Mods: @Foxtrot Alpha @Kambojaric @krash @LeGenD @PakSword @Moonlight

Have you ever seen in a Turkish forum praising organizations that Pakistan sees as terrorist organizations or using their names or their leaders as nicknames? Have you ever seen the founding leaders of the Pakistani state being slandered in a Turkish forum?

What kind of provocation is this, to use the name of a terrorist organization as a nickname? Even PSYops must have a ethical framework. This boundless daring will certainly have consequences.

Either follow your 'forum' rules or declare that those rules are not valid for any Turkey related thing. If this member's IP checks not made and not banned from the forum forever, I will start to take legal action along with other examples in the archive of this forum. I will also send the sample petitions related to this to the Pakistan's Turkey Consulate General and to the foreign relations communication channels of the Pakistani state.

That's enough! This is my first and last call to all my Pakistani brothers and sisters who believe in Turkish-Pakistani bonds. Show your support.

Hizbullah is a Quranic term that defines specific Muslims and it bothers you for a reason.

And Turkey does not recognize the Hizbullah as a terrorist organization. It recognizes certain groups like İlim (Hüseyin Velioğlu and other shits) in Diyarbakır (the headchoppers you are talking about) as terrorists, but that group is irrelevant to me. And the JITEM admitted that they founded such groups to use them to fight PKK. And interestingly enough, as a side note, the children and followers of even such filthy groups' founders have MPs today in the parliament (Hüda Par) and have TV channels like (Rehber TV).

Anyways, stop misinforming Pakistani brethren. Real Hizbullah, meaning all other groups, whether Kudüs, Islami Davet, etc. are legitimate groups that exist and act freely in Turkey. They have Organizations, TV channels, etc.

So, next time, before trying to misinform others, do your own research. And don't try to be more royalist than the king. Bring your proof that Turkey recognizes Nureddin Şirin and others as terrorists. Stupid indeed. Then why is he still in Istanbul, talking everyday on Kudüs TV?

KUDÜS TV

www.kudustv.com

Why are they protesting everyday for Palestine and Yemen? Why are they protesting against Kürecik Nato Radar Station? So it is clear that there are many different groups that identify themselves as Hizbullah. And except one (a Kurdish Sunni group that was created by JITEM) which is already history now, all the other groups have nothing to do with them and they are not labelled as terrorists. Otherwise, they would be in prison as well now? Right? But, they propagate their beliefs and ideology via protests and discussions even on TV.

 

[Capt. Karnage]

Treatment of Christ PBUH at the hands of Jews must be highlighted in the West to counter Jewish hold over Christian psyche. Cut the Western aid at source. At the same time respect and recognition of Christ PBUH by Islam should be highlighted to bring them near.

 

[T-SaGe]

Hizbullah is a Quranic term that defines specific Muslims and it bothers you for a reason.

Typical 'akplisin yanii' syndrome... It wasn't good enough. All kings can burn in the hell, I will touch upon the stupidity of Akp later that post. There is no counterpart to the stupid accusations you made about me, you can look at my message history.

My complaint to mods has a history with another members and another posts, and I believe that @krash knows the subject. There is a recurring psyop organization that cannot be counted as a coincidence.

You don't need to manipulate my complaint to impose your imagination on the forum. What I am saying is quite clear; A terrorist organization name cannot be taken as a nickname in the forum.

When you write long meaning of abbreviations of any terrorist organization, You will see that sectarian ones have religious meanings and ideological ones have class or social meanings.

TurkHizbullah = IranianPjak = PakistaniAlQaida = IraqiISIS all lead to the same provocation.


Türk Hizbullah
Ministry of the Interior red notice lists

Terörist Arama

Terörist Arama

www.terorarananlar.pol.tr

@krash @WebMaster @waz

 

[TürkHizbullah]

Typical 'akplisin yanii' syndrome... It wasn't good enough. All kings can burn in the hell, I will touch upon the stupidity of Akp later that post. There is no counterpart to the stupid accusations you made about me, you can look at my message history.

My complaint to mods has a history with another members and another posts, and I believe that @krash knows the subject. There is a recurring psyop organization that cannot be counted as a coincidence.

You don't need to manipulate my complaint to impose your imagination on the forum. What I am saying is quite clear; A terrorist organization name cannot be taken as a nickname in the forum.

When you write long meaning of abbreviations of any terrorist organization, You will see that sectarian ones have religious meanings and ideological ones have class or social meanings.

TurkHizbullah = IranianPjak = PakistaniAlQaida = IraqiISIS all lead to the same provocation.


Türk Hizbullah
Ministry of the Interior red notice lists

Terörist Arama

Terörist Arama

www.terorarananlar.pol.tr

@krash @WebMaster @waz

I am not interested in you or your message history. I did not register this website to stalk youth, I am no pedophile.

And again a certain group that use the name Hizbullah is considered a terrorist organization by Turkey (and that group was created by JITEM, Turkey's Intelligence Servise to fight PKK). Other groups that are known as Hizbullah are not considered so.

 

[khansaheeb]

LMAO not quite , China needs to innovate faster the fall of America or the West will be the fall of the world logically

 

[T-SaGe]

#erdogan is example of full of shit wannabe muslim all hot air no action yet turkey is part of nato alliance and recognises israel and trades and also busy in syria. flotilla event, nothing happened. isnt this dodgy erdogan government is not muslim but crypto bull shitters.

I just said that the crypto jews analogy is nonsense. Look at the answer and manners!

Actually crypto bull shitters runs country that you subjection, at least much more than mine. Your mouth is like a cesspool, you cannot tolerate even the slightest answer and you immediately insult.

Tell me a little bit about what you have done for Palestine throughout your life other than slandering other nations and state. What is your worth for Palestine as an individual?

You don't need to say anything about your nation or residance country, because someone else with as much hate as you can convert all of your subjects to you literally. But the person you direct your anger towards is just a figure. In order to see what kind of changes occurred in the bureaucratic depths of this country after 2013 and more clearly after 2016, it is necessary to have information about the subject first. Erdogan is an opportunist politician. However, for the last 6-7 years, he is a cornered leader who has been in need of the nationalist segment because the Atlanticists want to overthrow him. Your swearing at Erdogan will not stop him from doing what he has to do. We will not let it go without clearing the damage caused by Akp.

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Trade with Israel... Why not? Turkey is trading with US and Russia as well. Is there any other country in the world that has killed as many Muslims as Russia and the USA? There are many reasonable reasons for Israel Turkey trade relationship. Another important aspect of this trade is that Gaza is under full Israeli blockade. Israeli border crossings are the only transit route not only for consumer goods but also for construction materials.

Another important issue is the social place of the Jews in the history of the Turkish state. Sephardi Jews for example, who were exiled from all over Europe, migrated Palestine in the last 50-60 years after living with the Turks for centuries. Turkey is not an anti-Semitist country in any time of history, but most of us also hate this sick Zionism idea. States cannot be hostile to people. States fight states, non-state proxy organizations and ideologies. Likewise, while the whole western embargoing Iran, we have always tried to stand by Iran as much as we can. Some US -so called experts- (who are as stupid as you) also accuse Turkey over Iran. Look at the irony... Most of the sanctions we are exposed to come from the Halkbank case process.

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Turkey defends the UN resolutions on Palestine. Just like in the Kashmir issue... Turkey, which defends the UN resolutions based on the pre-1967 borders, has been continuing this line for a long time, longer than the total history of the AKP. Neither Erdogan nor anyone else can change this.

As a nuclear-deterrence military structure, Israel had turned into a reality especially after the 1973 Arab-Israeli War and recognized by the UNSC members from almost beginning. If you don't wanna realized this, what would offer instead of UN resolutions? Do you have the power to destroy the current world order and establish a new one? Stop selling dreams. What we need to do now is to create a common force on UN resolutions within the framework of 1967 borders. This is the upper limit you can convince China and Russia.

 

[Azadkashmir]

I just said that the crypto jews analogy is nonsense. Look at the answer and manners!

Actually crypto bull shitters runs country that you subjection, at least much more than mine. Your mouth is like a cesspool, you cannot tolerate even the slightest answer and you immediately insult.

Tell me a little bit about what you have done for Palestine throughout your life other than slandering other nations and state. What is your worth for Palestine as an individual?

You don't need to say anything about your nation or residance country, because someone else with as much hate as you can convert all of your subjects to you literally. But the person you direct your anger towards is just a figure. In order to see what kind of changes occurred in the bureaucratic depths of this country after 2013 and more clearly after 2016, it is necessary to have information about the subject first. Erdogan is an opportunist politician. However, for the last 6-7 years, he is a cornered leader who has been in need of the nationalist segment because the Atlanticists want to overthrow him. Your swearing at Erdogan will not stop him from doing what he has to do. We will not let it go without clearing the damage caused by Akp.

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Trade with Israel... Why not? Turkey is trading with US and Russia as well. Is there any other country in the world that has killed as many Muslims as Russia and the USA? There are many reasonable reasons for Israel Turkey trade relationship. Another important aspect of this trade is that Gaza is under full Israeli blockade. Israeli border crossings are the only transit route not only for consumer goods but also for construction materials.

Another important issue is the social place of the Jews in the history of the Turkish state. Sephardi Jews for example, who were exiled from all over Europe, migrated Palestine in the last 50-60 years after living with the Turks for centuries. Turkey is not an anti-Semitist country in any time of history, but most of us also hate this sick Zionism idea. States cannot be hostile to people. States fight states, non-state proxy organizations and ideologies. Likewise, while the whole western embargoing Iran, we have always tried to stand by Iran as much as we can. Some US -so called experts- (who are as stupid as you) also accuse Turkey over Iran. Look at the irony... Most of the sanctions we are exposed to come from the Halkbank case process.

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Turkey defends the UN resolutions on Palestine. Just like in the Kashmir issue... Turkey, which defends the UN resolutions based on the pre-1967 borders, has been continuing this line for a long time, longer than the total history of the AKP. Neither Erdogan nor anyone else can change this.

As a nuclear-deterrence military structure, Israel had turned into a reality especially after the 1973 Arab-Israeli War and recognized by the UNSC members from almost beginning. If you don't wanna realized this, what would offer instead of UN resolutions? Do you have the power to destroy the current world order and establish a new one? Stop selling dreams. What we need to do now is to create a common force on UN resolutions within the framework of 1967 borders. This is the upper limit you can convince China and Russia.

erm too long to read sorry but thanks for reply.

 

[T-SaGe]

I am not interested in you or your message history. I did not register this website to stalk youth, I am no pedophile.

I noticed your moral weaknesses and report that. I will not answer you with this rudeness. Keep to yourself your pedophilia experiences in other forums. This is an defense forum and this inferior style shows that you are not very familiar with this. The fact that you think you humiliate other people here by voicing your pedo-world, are just showing your identity, behind the terrörist organization nickname.

 

[Mk-313]

That's secular policy not about religion

LOL. You don’t know about Christians evangelical then. This is absolutely about religious issue.

Cheistians evangelicals believe that all Jews need to be in Israel for Jesus to come back. Once every Jew in the world is in Israel Jesus would come to establish the pure kingdom. In it, 1/3 of Jews will convert to Christian. Rest of them along with Muslims will die and Jesus will have put a pure kingdom of good.

they further think that Muslims don’t want the messiah to come by establishing Palestine . So they will absolutely make sure that all Jews remain in Israel they will support occupation to make sure there’s room for other Jews all over the world to come and live

Christian evangelicals are the biggest money and voting power and no president, senate or house rep is going to go against them[/QUOTE]

 

[TürkHizbullah]

I noticed your moral weaknesses and report that. I will not answer you with this rudeness. Keep to yourself your pedophilia experiences in other forums. This is an defense forum and this inferior style shows that you are not very familiar with this. The fact that you think you humiliate other people here by voicing your pedo-world, are just showing your identity, behind the terrörist organization nickname.

I have not done any of that crap and I am not willing to even if you want it so bad.

So, you are saying people need to throw away Quran and Islamic terms just because some JITEM created terrorist organization used them once? And other groups having the name don't matter?

The moral weakness was of yours when you called me a terrorist because I have the nick name Hizbullah (the soldier of God). And you got what you deserved. So stop bitching about it.

 

[TürkHizbullah]

LOL. You don’t know about Christians evangelical then. This is absolutely about religious issue.

Cheistians evangelicals believe that all Jews need to be in Israel for Jesus to come back. Once every Jew in the world is in Israel Jesus would come to establish the pure kingdom. In it, 1/3 of Jews will convert to Christian. Rest of them along with Muslims will die and Jesus will have put a pure kingdom of good.

they further think that Muslims don’t want the messiah to come by establishing Palestine . So they will absolutely make sure that all Jews remain in Israel they will support occupation to make sure there’s room for other Jews all over the world to come and live

Christian evangelicals are the biggest money and voting power and no president, senate or house rep is going to go against them

American Evangelicals are a joke.

They know their own country is Godless-Atheist and also that most Zionists are Atheists (They don't believe in God but they believe that Palestine is a God-given land to them). But these evangelicals don't know how these atheist regimes manipulate and use them to support-spread-export the godlessness worldwide.

I mean they support atheist Israelis who believe that Jesus was a -God forbid- illegitimate child, against Palestinain, Lebanese, Syrian Christians and Muslims who accept Jesus. And they try to justify this hypocricy because of a so-called prophecy that some of Israelis might believe in Jesus later.

Supporting a race (Jews) that they believe they killed Jesus and a race that still don't believe in Jesus. Against Arab Christians who believe Jesus is God and against Arab Muslims who believe Jesus is the prophet and word of God. Just because of a possibility that Jews might later believe in Jesus.

I laugh at this stupidity all the time. And what's more is that I witnessed their prophecy talks online and saw how they boasted that they will ruin the Persia and the whole middle-east.

 

[Mk-313]

American Evangelicals are a joke.

They know their own country is Godless-Atheist and also that most Zionists are Atheists (They don't believe in God but they believe that Palestine is a God-given land to them). But these evangelicals don't know how these atheist regimes manipulate and use them to support-spread-export the godlessness worldwide.

I mean they support atheist Israelis who believe that Jesus was a -God forbid- illegitimate child, against Palestinain, Lebanese, Syrian Christians and Muslims who accept Jesus. And they try to justify this hypocricy because of a so-called prophecy that some of Israelis might believe in Jesus later.

Supporting a race (Jews) that they believe they killed Jesus and a race that still don't believe in Jesus. Against Arab Christians who believe Jesus is God and against Arab Muslims who believe Jesus is the prophet and word of God. Just because of a possibility that Jews might later believe in Jesus.

I laugh at this stupidity all the time. And what's more is that I witnessed their prophecy talks online and saw how they boasted that they will ruin the Persia and the whole middle-east.

You still don’t grasp the concept do you

Belief in God is irrelevant to their philosophy. Their philosophy doesn’t suggest that Jews have to be God fearing. Just that they need to be Jews

On the 2nd part you again are misinformed. They are not supporting Jews for their well being. They are luring them for Jesus to come at which point Jews will either have a choice to convert to Christianity or die

Lastly America being more liberal and tolerant of other religion is precisely why they are more desperate for Jesus to come since they think everyone is going astray. It’s the same philosophy extremist in pakistan or ISIS use where they think everyone of their kind is going astray and they need to take measure to bring everyone to the correct faith

However evangelicals grasp will not remain longer. Israel used to go unquestioned this is the first where protests in US for Gaza were bigger for palestinanians

First time ever a bill was introduced to make sure US funding to Israel wouldn’t contribute towards human rights violation. I mean the bill is obviously not gona pass but back in the days u would be labeled an anti-Semitic if u even talk about something like that

and all of this is making evangelicals more desperate

 

[TürkHizbullah]

You still don’t grasp the concept do you

Belief in God is irrelevant to their philosophy. Their philosophy doesn’t suggest that Jews have to be God fearing. Just that they need to be Jews

On the 2nd part you again are misinformed. They are not supporting Jews for their well being. They are luring them for Jesus to come at which point Jews will either have a choice to convert to Christianity or die

Lastly America being more liberal and tolerant of other religion is precisely why they are more desperate for Jesus to come since they think everyone is going astray. It’s the same philosophy extremist in pakistan or ISIS use where they think everyone of their kind is going astray and they need to take measure to bring everyone to the correct faith

However evangelicals grasp will not remain longer. Israel used to go unquestioned this is the first where protests in US for Gaza were bigger for palestinanians

First time ever a bill was introduced to make sure US funding to Israel wouldn’t contribute towards human rights violation. I mean the bill is obviously not gona pass but back in the days u would be labeled an anti-Semitic if u even talk about something like that

and all of this is making evangelicals more desperate

Interesting wackos you describe there.

And likening them to ISIS is a good metaphor indeed.

I remember once sharing a Joulia Boutros (A Palestinian-Lebanese Christian Singer) music video singing in live concert in praise of Hizbullah against Israel (after the July 2006 war) to an American Evangelist. And what she said to me in return was "This is no Christian!!" Sounded more like "our" takfiri terrorists. Non-Evangelicals; i.e. Catholics, Armenians etc. are all "not christian" in the eyes of the Evangelicals.

 

[Wilhelm II]

LOL. You don’t know about Christians evangelical then. This is absolutely about religious issue.

Cheistians evangelicals believe that all Jews need to be in Israel for Jesus to come back. Once every Jew in the world is in Israel Jesus would come to establish the pure kingdom. In it, 1/3 of Jews will convert to Christian. Rest of them along with Muslims will die and Jesus will have put a pure kingdom of good.

they further think that Muslims don’t want the messiah to come by establishing Palestine . So they will absolutely make sure that all Jews remain in Israel they will support occupation to make sure there’s room for other Jews all over the world to come and live

Christian evangelicals are the biggest money and voting power and no president, senate or house rep is going to go against them

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I know it but governments do secular

 

[T-SaGe]

I have not done any of that crap and I am not willing to even if you want it so bad.

So, you are saying people need to throw away Quran and Islamic terms just because some JITEM created terrorist organization used them once? And other groups having the name don't matter?

The moral weakness was of yours when you called me a terrorist because I have the nick name Hizbullah (the soldier of God). And you got what you deserved. So stop bitching about it.

Stop making religion and Quran demagoguery here. You are not the only muslim here.

Turkhizbollahı is the name of a head-chopper terrorist organization? Yes.

Is Turkey defined this as a terrorist organization by official institutions? Yes.

Are the militants and leaders of this terrorist organization wanted with a red and grey notices? Yes.

Is there a search warrant for those involved in the acts of this terrorist organization? Yes.

And finally, Is it prohabited to use the name of an any terrorist organization as a username in this forum? Yes.

So keep your stupid claims to yourself. I have no intention of dealing with the sick soul of a *****

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I am writing these messages to inform Mods. Not for you


Some of the organizations active(or claimed as active) in Pakistan
Al-Qaeda
Islamic State of I-L
Pakistani Taliban
Islamic Jihad Union
Jamait-ul- Mujahideen
Hizb ut-Tahrir
Tehreek-e Nafaz-e Shariat-e-Mohammadi (Movement for the Enforcement of Islamic Law)
Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (Guardians of the Prophet's Companions)
Lashkar-e-Jhangvi

I just want to learn the answer to these questions

Is it possible to get a username in this forum with the names of such organizations? NO ?

Even if not directly related with Pakistan Is it possible to get a username even with the name Muslim Brotherhood(for example) which is still standing in the gray area? NO ?

Please be fair. Please enforce the forum rules fairly for everyone.

Please do not associate your name with terrorist organizations as part of the image of Pakistan.

Please refrain from policies that will harm Pakistan-Turkey friendship.

If we are talking about Turkish-Pakistani friendship, the name that has been officially declared a terrorist organization in Turkey cannot be used as a username.

Otherwise, I will definitely not stop until I block access to the site and bring this provocation to the attention of the authorities in Pakistan's Turkey mission.

Atatürk and our founding leaders were cursed and slandered, we kept silent. Provocation was made with our flag, we kept silent. Countless slanders and insults have been committed against our nation, we were respected to freedom of expression. But now the limit has been exceeded. Here, the names of terrorist organizations and the Turkish flag cannot be brought together. I'm afraid this provocation will have an answer with same method at turkish forums.

I have no extraordinary demands from you, I have a very reasonable wish because of Turkish-Pakistan friendship and bonds. Are you a friend or foe, your silence will also be an answer!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not threatening anyone here, but I'm trying to awaken the moderation that can't see what these small concessions can lead to in the future. If this was another country's forum, I wouldn't even try so hard...

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