How the fear of PAF caused Indian Gnat to crash

[Stephen Cohen]

cuz we are remembering one event in which the fear of PAF DID cause a plane to crash

No the plane crashed because the Pilot lost control
The Indian pilot did not fear the PAF ; OTHERWISE he would have deserted and quit
The Indian pilot was Airborne ; he was taking evasive measures ; lost control and crashed

Mistakes happen in wars

 

[Windjammer]

teri auqat dhik rahi jammed wind.

Tell me if you have any shame, why didn't PA and PAF goes full out on western sector?

Tell me one good reason apart from known cowardice, which was shown by the fellowmen when they surrender.

I could call you many names but as they say never wrestle with a Pig, you both get dirty and the Pig loves it .....as you do. !!!
If you had any Auqat, you would stand up for your self not crying out for help from your country fellows.
Since you are running in circles, why don't you tell me, after mobilising and deploying 700, 000 troops on the border , why didn't India attack Pakistan, why were they pussy footing for a whole year, ..... you keep repeating the word cowardice, well it's in your genes, be on the internet, or on border, you are incompetent to stand up for your self, even in 1971, Russia provided you with all the assistance and in Kargil within your own territory, you needed Israelis and American help to bail you out.

 

[PoKeMon]

cuz we are remembering one event in which the fear of PAF DID cause a plane to crash

No you are not remembering an event but using that event to show somehow how IAF was scared of fearful PAF.

You are actually abusing the bravery of Indian pilot who fell down in service of nation by calling him coward though he crashed because he lost the control and not because he was come coward.

I could call you many names but as they say never wrestle with a Pig, you both get dirty and the Pig loves it .....as you do. !!!
If you had any Auqat, you would stand up for your self not crying out for help from your country fellows.
Since you are running in circles, why don't you tell me, after mobilising and deploying 700, 000 troops on the border , why didn't India attack Pakistan, why were they pussy footing for a whole year, ..... you keep repeating the word cowardice, well it's in your genes, be on the internet, or on border, you are incompetent to stand up for your self, even in 1971, Russia provided you with all the assistance and in Kargil within your own territory, you needed Israelis and American help to bail you out.

Bla bla bla

Answer my question about 71 - tell me the reason why PA and PAF shows cowardice when pakistan was falling.

PAF fear -- my foot.

@Windjammer The day pakistan will break my country and my forces will keep watching, I will rather kill myself then shamelessly boating about IAF.

Such a shame by you which can make a Pig look better.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

@Jf Thunder @Windjammer

Mistakes happen in a war

The PAF did use some creative ways to ENFORCE a mistake from the Indian side

You might be interested in knowing HOW our AN 12 BOMBED out A Pakistani position
by INDUCING the Pakistanis to disclose their position

..:: India Strategic ::. IAF: IAF’s Innovative use of Transporters as Heavy Bombers

@Windjammer @Jf Thunder

You are GLOATING about Tactical mistakes by an IAF pilot in 1971 ; FINE

What about the STRATEGIC Mistakes that PA and PAF made in the Kargil Conflict

They DID NOT even envisage a situation that IAF would be used at such HIGH altitudes

How UNPROFESSIONAL

 

[Windjammer]

No you are not remembering an event but using that event to show somehow how IAF was scared of fearful PAF.

You are actually abusing the bravery of Indian pilot who fell down in service of nation by calling him coward though he crashed because he lost the control and not because he was come coward.



Bla bla bla

Answer my question about 71 - tell me the reason why PA and PAF shows cowardice when pakistan was falling.

PAF fear -- my foot.

@Windjammer The day pakistan will break my country and my forces will keep watching, I will rather kill myself then shamelessly boating about IAF.

Such a shame by you which can make a Pig look better.

Pilots crash and die every day, but that Indian pilot crashed due to the panic caused by the alarm of non existing PAF fighters......as for the rest of your nonsense, we often see how Chinese repeatedly humiliate you but obviously that's a taboo issue for you. In any case, the subject, PAF has repeatedly proven it's professionalism by holding more than it's own against a much bigger enemy. Now did your army went in to remove the Chinese tents .....no.....why. ???/..... so your idiocy is complete when you keep blabbering same lines..... expecting the PAF to act independently.....without authority or approval ...... now go back and enjoy your mud bath.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Now did your army went in to remove the Chinese tents .....no.....why. ???/.....

We are dealing with the Chinese in a correct manner

We want the Chinese to FIRE the first bullet ; let us see when they get the Will to do so

The tents mean nothing ; they just FOLD the tents and leave after a while

Why the Chinese DO NOT fire at us ; you should ask them

 

[PoKeMon]

Pilots crash and die every day, but that Indian pilot crashed due to the panic caused by the alarm of non existing PAF fighters......as for the rest of your nonsense, we often see how Chinese repeatedly humiliate you but obviously that's a taboo issue for you. In any case, the subject, PAF has repeatedly proven it's professionalism by holding more than it's own against a much bigger enemy. Now did your army went in to remove the Chinese tents .....no.....why. ???/..... so your idiocy is complete when you keep blabbering same lines..... expecting the PAF to act independently.....without authority or approval ...... now go back and enjoy your mud bath.

The only airforce who kept his fighter engines un-cranked while nation got divided. Got ya.

Ask the same to China, why they can't push India out of South Tibet as they claim is their territory. They are afterall mighty dragons. Go cheerleader, go figure.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

expecting the PAF to act independently.....without authority or approval ......

But what about PAF's Unprofessionalism in Kargil

According to Aeronaut: Kargil Conflict and Pakistan Air Force

PAF DID not envisage IAF's Success in carrying out HIGH ALTITUDE bombing

They just thought that STINGERS will scare IAF away

This is the PROFESSIONALISM of PAF and PA

When Lt Gen Mehmud asked for questions at the end of the rather crisp and to-the-point briefing, Air Cdre Saleem Nawaz opened up by inquiring about the type of air support that might be needed for the operation. Lt Gen Mehmud assured us that air support was not envisaged and that his forces could take care of enemy aircraft, if they intervened. “I have Stingers on every peak,” he announced. Air Cdre Saleem tried to point out the limited envelope of these types of missiles and said that nothing stopped the IAF from attacking the posts and artillery pieces from high altitude.

To this, Lt Gen Mehmud’s reply was that his troops were well camouflaged and concealed and, that IAF pilots would not be able to pick out the posts from the air.

Aeronaut: Kargil Conflict and Pakistan Air Force

 

[Windjammer]

The only airforce who kept his fighter engines un-cranked while nation got divided. Got ya.

Ask the same to China, why they can't push India out of South Tibet as they claim is their territory. They are afterall mighty dragons. Go cheerleader, go figure.

Convince your self with all the BS which is obviously your forte,
But the fact remains that the poor Indian pilot crashed seeing the Ghost of PAF.... just as well he was over his own base or else we probably would have had to make room for another Gnat in the Museum.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

@Windjammer

In Kargil Had PAF not heard of Laser guided bombs and GPS assisted bombing and Chaffs and Flares

Why did not they warn PA that IAF had better resources and options
to beat the Stingers and carry out High Altitude bombing

PA fired 100 Stingers in Kargil but to no avail

 

[PoKeMon]

Convince your self with all the BS which is obviously your forte,
But the fact remains that the poor Indian pilot crashed seeing the Ghost of PAF.... just as well he was over his own base or else we probably would have had to make room for another Gnat in the Museum.

Not better than putting another "desh" on world's map. And not to forget, cutting down pakistan "wings".

 

[third eye]

Surprised, we never see any such intellectual comments when some Indian poster posts on Siachen, 1971 war or Kargil conflict.....you will find a few in this very section.

Because having won the battles / wars in question Indian posters do not possibly feel the need to pick on an incident / skirmish of the war seeking solace in its outcome.

 

[Jf Thunder]

Just see the title idiot.

PAF fear -- my foot.

And our discussion had moved on, just follow that and see what he is boasting about in his posts. Its not all about only OP.

stay on the topic, no need to move it forward

 

[PoKeMon]

stay on the topic, no need to move it forward

So topic is IAF was fearful of PAF (that watch pakistan fall cowardly).

Let me do what one should do on this ---

 

[Irfan Baloch]

PA fired 100 Stingers in Kargil but to no avail

yea totally agree

and this IAF jet just shot itself
out of compassion