How Syria Defeated the 2012-2019 Invasion by US & Al-Qaeda

[500]

Its Syrian people vs. Iran, Russia, Iraq, Lebanon and Assad collaborators.

Despite this huge disproportion Syrian people resist after 9 years of non stop slaughter and they will prevail.

 

[Piotr]

russian aircover and smart bombs as well as uavs played major role for accurate strike by Syrian army artillery shells.Russian s400 and other airdefense as well as su57 and su35 ensured that u.s and nato not carryout bombings on Syria like they did in Libya,iraq and afghanistan and saved Asad govt from being toppled by rebels and u.s army

As I said Russia helped a lot, but most of the fighting was done by Syrians themselves. Most of the credit for defeating US terrorists goes to Syrians themselves. Also let's not forget that Iran helped Syria even more than Russia.

If not for USAF aircover in Iraq and Syria ISIS would have eaten Iraq,Iran,Syria and Lebonan. @gambit
TBH Syrians and Iraqis have lost though their rulers and waliyate fiqh zealots have won both of these states are in runis with broken social fabric.

US founded Daesh (ISIS). US established Daesh in Iraq after defeating Iraq in 2003. Daesh (ISIS) and Al-Qaeda are purely US terrorists organisations. US air force was supporting Daesh (ISIS).

 

[Timur]

without iranian and russian help assad would not have survived.. massive iranian support and russian air force helped the useless syrian army.. besides from saddam or some iranian proxies there is or was no somehow capable arab /kurdish army/groub in this region.. all depend on others to survive and most of all are compleatly useless better throw some stones than depending on them..

there are no heros no warriors except the hated islamists (how they call them) this guys fight a fight like ants fighting a falcon... without the help of other falcons the local falcons would have been destroyed by ants.. this is the reality.. take assad and iraq as an excample also the kurdish terrorists without extreeeeeem maaaaaaassiv air force of US and others they would not have been able to go 1 m without being harrased and reminded what filth they are..

I ask myself how much bombs have been used in syria and how much bombs in yemen by foreign air forces I think it must be an extraordinary mind blowing number

 

[Piotr]

I see Syria as a new Stalingrad on the bigger scale. Agressor's offensive failed for the fist time since the Cold War. Now its time to slowly push the Global Horde away and crush them in their own house.

I see Russian victiory over US aggressor Saakashvili in 08.08.08 and liberation of Abkhazia and South Ossetia as new Stalingrad battle and reunification of Russia and Crimea as new Kursk battle.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Russia, Iran, China and other countries will rebuild Syria after terrorists defeat. It is a good business to rebuild country - Americans still got benefits from rebuilding Western Europe after the War. Nobody remember that USSR rebuild from scratch much heavier damaged Eastern Europe - but it is another story.

Let's see.

 

[vostok]

I see Russian victiory over US aggressor Saakashvili in 08.08.08 and liberation of Abkhazia and South Ossetia as new Stalingrad battle and reunification of Russia and Crimea as new Kursk battle.

Well, those events took plaсes on Russian border, in former USSR itself. Nobody (except one man in the world - Saakashvili) doubts Russia can manage small local conflict on its own border. Syria - is a diffefent case. Fisrt time since Cold War someone hit the table and said loudly - "Enough!" First time US-Nato agression against independent nation and attemp to destroy the country failed. Firts time. Now people of the Earth know - US is not the allpowerfull god. There are forces who can defend nations from destruction. There is place for the hope in people's souls again.

 

[500]

Well, those events took plaсes on Russian border, in former USSR itself. Nobody (except one man in the world - Saakashvili) doubts Russia can manage small local conflict on its own border. Syria - is a diffefent case.

Russia can murder Christian Orthodox people in Ukraine and Georgia, but it cant do nothing vs. Baltic countries. Turkmenia treats Russians like trash and Russia can't do anything either.

Fisrt time since Cold War someone hit the table and said loudly - "Enough!" First time US-Nato agression against independent nation and attemp to destroy the country failed.

There is more destruction in Syria than in any other country since WW2. And this destruction is done by Russia.

Firts time. Now people of the Earth know - US is not the allpowerfull god. There are forces who can defend nations from destruction. There is place for the hope in people's souls again.

There was only one clash between US and Russia. It ended with 100+ dead Russians and Russian collaborators.
Zero casualties from US side.

This is what happens when 1970-1980 tech meets 2010 tech.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham

I ask myself how much bombs have been used in syria and how much bombs in yemen by foreign air forces I think it must be an extraordinary mind blowing number

In Yemen there are precision strikes.
In Syria scorched earth carpet bombing.

There is absolutely no comparison between these two.

Yemen after Saudi bombings vs. Syria after Assad/Putin bombings:

 

[SOHEIL]

Russia can murder Christian Orthodox people in Ukraine and Georgia, but it cant do nothing vs. Baltic countries. Turkmenia treats Russians like trash and Russia can't do anything either.


There is more destruction in Syria than in any other country since WW2. And this destruction is done by Russia.


There was only one clash between US and Russia. It ended with 100+ dead Russians and Russian collaborators.
Zero casualties from US side.

This is what happens when 1970-1980 tech meets 2010 tech.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham


In Yemen there are precision strikes.
In Syria scorched earth carpet bombing.

There is absolutely no comparison between these two.

Yemen after Saudi bombings vs. Syria after Assad/Putin bombings:

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LOL ...

 

[jamahir]

@500 , if you are really concerned about humans ( Syrian civilians ) then you should also propose a proper solution for the Israel-Palestine dispute and end that dispute forever.

I propose a single-state solution, to begin with.

 

[Battle of Waterloo]

Thank you for this great thread.

God bless Assad, Syria, Russia and Iran for defeating global jihadist terrorists in their plans to form Islamic Caliphate in Secular Syria (backed by KSA/Qatar/USA/ISrael).

 

[sammuel]

Russia, Iran, China and other countries will rebuild Syria after terrorists defeat.

lol - Iran will help rebuild.

How exactly are they going to compensate for the millions of Syrian elite who had fled Syria never to return.

the only ones that can help rebuild Syria are the rich golf countries , but they are not going to lift a finger to help Syria.

~

 

[Battle of Waterloo]

the only ones that can help rebuild Syria are the rich golf countries , but they are not going to lift a finger to help Syria.

Golf? Trump Golf?

UAE and KSA already are re-establishing business ties with Syria. They don't want to miss out on the reconstruction business and influence.

 

[925boy]

u.s was targetting syrian forces instead of isis earlier,after russian came they started supporting antiturkish kurds and SDF who included isis members to disguise world.In iraq their objective was to prolong their presence and sell more weapons using excuse of isis

When i saw the videos and pics of destroyed infrastructure and transportation of ISIS oil operations after Russian air force came into the Syrian war, thats when i knew the US wasnt fighting ISIS. @500 dont hide now. Now he has put me on ignore. GOOD.

Its Syrian people vs. Iran, Russia, Iraq, Lebanon and Assad collaborators.

Despite this huge disproportion Syrian people resist after 9 years of non stop slaughter and they will prevail.

LOL. stop broadcasting Syrian terrorist rebel propaganda on PDF.

lol - Iran will help rebuild.
How exactly are they going to compensate for the millions of Syrian elite who had fled Syria never to return.

If Assad and Syria survived the worst war in its history without these "Syrian elites", why do they need them to come back to a successful Syria? No good logic detected bro.

 

[sammuel]

If Assad and Syria survived the worst war in its history without these "Syrian elites", why do they need them to come back to a successful Syria? No good logic detected bro.

You seem to have problems understanding why a country would need millions of it citizens to rebuild its country.

You know the country is made up from citizens , not dictator.

You seem to have a problem understanding what it means when in a country millions of your " stronger " population disappear living you with the weal and needy.

While all the more educated , like doctors professors and others professionals are gone.

Suggested reading :

Brain drain means Syria can’t recover for a generation

Overlooked in discussions of Syria’s post-conflict redevelopment is the country’s lack of skilled human capital. Its middle class fled overseas so Syria will probably remain a basket-case economy for at least a generation.

The start of the uprising in 2011 saw Syria’s wealthiest families quickly move their assets, businesses and children to Saudi Arabia, Dubai or Jordan. By 2014, a year before the great exodus of Syrians to Europe, UN figures showed that Syria’s per person GDP had regressed to $1,820. Companies closed and the value of the Syrian lira fell sharply.

This meant that only the wealthiest and best-educated Syrians could afford to start on the dangerous route from Lebanon to Turkey, then on to the Balkans and from there to central and northern Europe. (Remember the surprise expressed by many Europeans that refugees owned iPhones and were well-dressed?)

The cost of plane tickets, smugglers’ fees and transportation ran into thousands of dollars per person. Families travelling together were forced to part with multiples of that sum, often selling property in Syria to pay for it all and cutting any links with the homeland.

Of the countless contacts and friends I’ve made during five years of living and reporting across Syria, an overwhelming number had the means to get to Sweden, Canada, Austria or Germany.

Those without access to money that would allow them to leave were forced to remain in Syria. They are the poorest and the least-educated Syrians I’ve encountered. Many are well away from conflict zones and front lines but they are also without passports, jobs or incomes. Among them are young people with unfinished degrees, who are unable to enter the professional workforce and develop key skills.

It’s worth remembering that not everyone who left Syria was fleeing the war or was staunchly anti-regime. Many were well-to-do urbanites or belonged to religious minority groups that opposed the attempts to overthrow Assad. The regime may have fanned sectarian fears to fuel the war but its consequences have been indiscriminate. All sides suffered.

Some of the Syrians who left will undoubtedly return home. A large percentage of the worst-off refugees in Lebanon and Jordan and those living along the Turkish border regions will have little choice but to do so once the war ends but the millions of others in major Turkish cities, Europe and further afield will not come back, leaving Syria without key human capital, namely its professional class. The result is that Syria will remain a country without experienced professionals for at least another generation.

While a country can manage without poetry and art, as Syria arguably did pre-2011, it cannot do without professionals who know how to save lives, run financial institutions and build factories.

Critical to Syria’s functioning as a state before the war were its well-trained doctors, lawyers and other professionals. They have left and with them any chance of a prosperous, post-war future.

Recovery cannot happen until a new middle class is established and gains the experience needed to run the country. Much can change for the better but chances are that Syria 20 years on will resemble present-day Yemen more than Lebanon.

https://thearabweekly.com/brain-drain-means-syria-cant-recover-generation

 

[LeGenD]

This thread is a classic example of so-called 5th generation warfare in the works - mixing of falsehood with nuggets of truth, and misleading potential readers in the process.

"And do not mix the truth with falsehood or conceal the truth while you know [it]." - Surah Al-Baqarah; verse # 42

Fact # 1: US and the notorious Al-Qaeda Network are not allies but sworn enemies and at war. Anybody who argue otherwise, is either utterly brainwashed/misled or an agent on the payroll of either Russia or Iran.

Fact # 2: ISIS = Al-Qaeda Network in the Middle East + former Ba'athists in Iraq

References:-

[1] https://m.spiegel.de/international/...cture-of-islamist-terror-group-a-1029274.html

[2] https://www.researchgate.net/public...ner_workings_of_ISIS's_intelligence_apparatus

"This article, relying primarily on first person accounts of actual ISIS defectors, expands upon the work of investigative journalist Christoph Reuter of Der Spiegel (Hamburg, GFR) who first reported on the discovery of the files of Haji Bakr, one of the Iraqi organizers of the ISIS’s Emni in the years when preparations for the Islamic State were made. Bakr’s files make clear that ISIS is not just a terrorist organization, but was set up by former Baathist state intel operators with the intent to build a new state. Our interviews also confirm data collected by New York Times reporter Rukmini Callimachi. Together, these three sources utilized and analyzed here shed light on the highly subversive activities undertaken by the Emni on behalf of the ‘Islamic State’, also outlining ISIS’s aspirations to attack the West."

Fact # 3: US under Obama administration, launched a major military operation across Iraq and Syria to defeat/undo gains of ISIS in these two countries; Operation Inherent Resolve in short. Towards this end, US created SDF in Syria and prepared post-Saddam Iraqi government for the needful.

For reference: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/mapp...ation-inherent-resolve-to-defeat-isis.618878/

SDF = Syrian Democratic Forces (regional Kurd factions being the primary contributor of manpower to this movement), and its sphere of influence is visible in YELLOW in the maps of Syria.

Live updates/satellite feeds of developments in Syria from a third party source for reference: https://syriancivilwarmap.com/

Fact # 4: Iran and Russia also contributed to fight against ISIS in their respective ways (credit where due), but these two parties are also allies of the tyrannical Assad regime in Syria, and both want to prevent its downfall and completely suppress prospects of rebellion against it from within Syria. Nevermind the fact that the tyrannical Assad regime is 100% responsible for suppressing Syrian society at large and utter destruction of this once beautiful country on top. In order to mask this reality, both are waging 5th generation warfare on the internet with dedicated set of teams and sources, and spreading misconception that US and ISIS were allies and attempted to overthrow Assad regime in Syria, and how these two prevented this shit from happening, and US even went as far as to transport ISIS to Afghanistan as if this is/was even economically feasible...

Fact # 5: Iran have ulterior motives of its own. Iranian deep state have created shiite militias in other countries: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.csis.org/war-by-proxy?amp

- and attempting to encircle Israel with its proxies which is an exceedingly dangerous move. If this ill-advised trend continue, I fear that another great chapter of tragedy will unfold at some point and many more will perish consequently - a major war which might turn nuclear at some point, God forbid.

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I advise all members to excercise a great degree of caution while assessing content on the internet in current times, and strive for scholarly sources of information instead (see [2] for example).

Please do not be a part of any conspiracy or division along political lines. This is how political entities brainwash people and draw potential recruits to serve their ends.

Muslims must understand that the BIG 3 (US; Russia; and China) are entangled in a Cold War in the post-WW2 age, and responsible for creating divisions in different parts of the world on ideological and political grounds: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/in-l...istan-directly-from-an-american.634758/page-1

None of these powers are champions of Islamic cause and brotherhood. They want to keep Muslims divided because this is the only way in which they will pit us against each other and advance their interests in the process. There is no such thing as Russia-backed or China-backed march to glory towards the gates of Jerusalem to topple the Third Temple and a conspirational Dajjal with it.

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I suppose that a cloud of smoke which is hinted to take away the souls of believers in a hadith, might be a byproduct of a nuclear war in the region although interpretations vary.