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How shrinking freedom of press in Turkey brought me closer to Pakistan

I have friends and family members say beautiful things about Turkey (experiences they had there) .. Although I've not visited Turkey .. I've met quiet a few Turks .. And based on my personal experiences .. 2 states one soul..

We are poor brother .. But not betraying scumbags .. We remember and neither forget ...
Pakistan was doing well in the past and will do even better in the future i believe, keep investing in education. :tup:
 
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its weird that a poor south asian country has more press freedom than an advanced european country.
I know the wolfpack will be after me... :)
 
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Sounds like propaganda. You can find such gestures.. all over even in India....but your media will be blind to it unless its approved form the top...
 
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sure, everybody who says anything critical is turkey hater...
Dont play with words i have seen enough posts of you.
You arent saying something critical, hell you dont even know whos being defended here, this Zaman newspapers boss called Gülen is responsible for undermining the secular state aparatus of Turkey, he has placed thousands of people in key positions, he helped AKP to overthrow the head of the military, if there is something good that Erdogan has done then its banning this islamists media and schools, cleaning the state from his cockroaches, but you guys dont even know a single shyte, you are just here to release your vomit.
 
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its weird that a poor south asian country has more press freedom than an advanced european country.
I know the wolfpack will be after me... :)
No press on earth, is free. Especially in those, as how you call it "advanced European" countries.
 
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sure, everybody who says anything critical is turkey hater...
Dude,they are talking about Fethullah Gulen here,who happens to be an Islamist hardliner!!Trust me when I say this bro,it ain't the battle to fight.

No press on earth, is free. Especially in those, as how you call it "advanced European" countries.
Actually,by 'advanced European country',he meant Turkey,which is indeed quite advanced as far as we are concerned.I wish we too had a few leaders like you guys had.
 
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I find your lack in press freedom disturbing, all of you.

If Akit can run around and spread lies about everything, then so can Zaman and without a doubt Zaman had more substance than Akit and Co ever did.

Even the liberals among us here did not truly understand what democracy, freedom of speach and press freedom means.
 
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I find your lack in press freedom disturbing, all of you.

If Akit can run around and spread lies about everything, then so can Zaman and without a doubt Zaman had more substance than Akit and Co ever did.

Even the liberals among us here did not truly understand what democracy, freedom of speach and press freedom means.


If ther is someone who didn't understood freedom of speech are you. If we are able in Turkey to spread lies(as you manage) about a lot of things with out go to the jail. Then ther is more then freedom of speech.

When you are threatening berating Erdogan or Davudoglu then you can see the jail. Even in Europe you can't threat a leader of the state. You don't understand Turkey.

Tarık Akan Cumhurbaşkanı Erdoğan'ı tehdit etti

 
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then so can Zaman and without a doubt Zaman had more substance than Akit and Co ever did.
The issue is not about "Zaman" ???

Zaman is part of a group , which is nested in state organs, trying to control the state by themselves by shoving aside the legitimate government... The issue has never been about Zaman or Cihan....the issue is about Gulen movement.

Look, i'm not defending for AKP here, they are as much as guilty as them because they let them to be nested....but any move against Gülen movement is legitimate my eyes.

They are using Zaman as a media outlet and try to show it like "shrinking freedom of press"....how ever it's not the first and only Gülen movement coorperate that has came under fire. What about Koza, İpek, Bank Asya...etc. ?
 
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I have no symphaties with Feto and his followers but removing them from the state apparatus is one thing seizing companies is another.
 
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FETO and its press tried to depict Turkey as an ISIS-supporter state (TIR and IHH operations) and this trial successfully worked in international area. Because of that we couldn't act against YPG/PKK invasion in North Syria! (More than that we had to help terrorists against ISIS in Kobane protests!)

Look at Syria map and you will see big yellow line along our Syria borders! I blame FETO and its media about that! Freedom of Press? To hell with that! We don't need to be tolerant of US media inside our country!
 
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