How Saudi state uses Islam as a political tool for terrorism support & hatred

[Doritos11]

Can you translate his speech in that video?

Ok, important part, starts at 0:18

"The Iraqi army belongs to the Rafidi regime of Maliki, the objective of the army is to defend the kaffir regime"

 

[Arabian Legend]

Ok, important part, starts at 0:18

"The Iraqi army belongs to the Rafidi regime of Maliki, the objective of the army is to defend the kaffir regime"

Nah, I don't want you to cut his speech to prove your point. Translate the whole speech instead of trying to deceive people. He clearly said that working for the security of the country is permissible but working for Al-mailiki is something else.

 

[Doritos11]

Nah, I don't want you to cut his speech to prove your point. Translate the whole speech instead of trying to deceive people.

Not your google translator, besides I’m not a perfect translater in this case as he speaks in a different dialect.

He clearly said that working for the security of the country is permissible but working for Al-mailiki is something else.

A sentence, full of shit, an empty sentance basically.
I don’t care about Maliki, but support the army, for an average cretin like you that makes you think i’m a Maliki supporter, this is what he means.

He said that the army belongs to the kaffir Rafidi regime of Maliki, that says it all.

 

[Arabian Legend]

Not your google translator, besides I’m not a perfect translater in this case as he speaks in a different dialect.



A sentence, full of shit, an empty sentance basically.
I don’t care about Maliki, but support the army, for an average cretin like you that makes you think i’m a Maliki supporter, this is what he means.

He said that the army belongs to the kaffir Rafidi regime of Maliki, that says it all.

I demand you to translate all of his speech or shove the video where it fits.

 

[Doritos11]

I demand you to translate all of his speech or shove the video where it fits.

Keep demanding

@ResurgentIran

I demand you to translate this speech

 

[Shaldag]

Average cretin

 

[Arabian Legend]

Keep demanding

Then stop the lies. What he said is totally true and a fair answer to the Iraq guy who posed question.

 

[Doritos11]

Then stop the lies. What he said is totally true and a fair answer to Iraq guy who posed question.

Is my translated part wrong ?
If so correct me.

If my translation is correct then you and I disagree.

 

[ResurgentIran]

I demand you to translate all of his speech or shove the video where it fits.

This is not proper language for a lady.

 

[al-Hasani]

This is what I call freedom of speech. Isn't the Saudi ArabSat is also allowing channels like Al-Manar, Al-alam, Shit TV, Kauthar, Anwar….etc to broadcast? Aren't those channels the biggest spreaders of lies, seditions, hate and sectarianism? the supporters of terrorist organization like BADAR,MAHDI, HIZBO, and the rest?

Wisal TV is hitting hard and I can feel you pain especially after many Shia from Iraq and Iran reverted to Islam.

Wisal TV is a private channel we have no hold over it nor we are going to suspend its license.

Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.

Plenty of radicals that get a free room in Iraq. Plenty of Shia clerics that are spreading hate towards Sunni Muslims and certain Sunni Arab and Sunni Muslim countries. The word "Wahhabi" is also used frequently as a code-word for Sunni Muslims that do not agree with the Shia radicals.

The Iraqi government is also turning a blind eye to all the Shia terrorists going to Syria and even encourages it sometimes. They are spreading hatred and sectarianism.

We should not even talk about the non-Iraqi Shia channels that are doing similar stuff.

Anyway those are private channels and satellite channels. If they were banned the people interested in this stuff would find a way to listen to them or watch it. That is why even those Shia channels that are spreading hatred are not banned in KSA either.

Besides there are no influential clerics on that channel.

I would ban all of those channels whether "Sunni" or "Shia" as long as they give Islam a bad name.

 

[Doritos11]

Plenty of radicals that get a free room in Iraq. Plenty of Shia clerics that are spreading hate towards Sunni Muslims and certain Sunni Arab and Sunni Muslim countries. The word "Wahhabi" is also used frequently as a code-word for Sunni Muslims that do not agree with the Shia radicals.

Fatwas & declaring foreign state armies as kuffar that is leading to terrorism is close to a declaration of war, I don’t care if they talk about Shia day and night, insult Sistani, Khamenei, Khomeini.

The Iraqi government is also turning a blind eye to all the Shia terrorists going to Syria and even encourages it sometimes. They are spreading hatred and sectarianism.

Iraqis going to Syria have gone through Iran by airlift, most Iraqi fighters in Syria are refugees that have been there for years before the war.

Anyway those are private channels and satellite channels. If they were banned the people interested in this stuff would find a way to listen to them or watch it. That is why even those Shia channels that are spreading hatred are not banned in KSA either.

Besides there are no influential clerics on that channel.

I would ban all of those channels whether "Sunni" or "Shia" as long as they give Islam a bad name.

Yes, ban them all is the solution, they can open a channel on youtube if they want, going on national television with a topic on another state makes it look like he’s representing the state.

 

[al-Hasani]

Fatwas & declaring foreign state armies as kuffar that is leading to terrorism is close to a declaration of war, I don’t care if they talk about Shia day and night, insult Sistani, Khamenei, Khomeini.


Iraqis going to Syria have gone through Iran by airlift, most Iraqi fighters in Syria are refugees that have been there for years before the war.



Yes, ban them all is the solution, they can open a channel on youtube if they want, going on national television with a topic on another state makes it look like he’s representing the state.

Same thing is happening the other way around. But you do not know those channels mentioned. That you btw can watch in KSA as well.

Many go through Syria as well or other ways. The point is that they are there and the government is doing nothing to stop it. Because it suits them.

No national television. Small private satellite channel. Some largely unknown independent clerics do not represent any state other than themselves.

No Al-Qaeda tv channels or other terrorist groups but they still have thousands of members and many more supporters. So you cannot stop this in year 2014. They will find other ways to spread their message.

 

[Doritos11]

Same thing is happening the other way around. But you do not know those channels mentioned. That you btw can watch in KSA as well.

Many go through Syria as well or other ways. The point is that they are there and the government is doing nothing to stop it. Because it suits them.

No national television. Small private satellite channel. Some largely unknown independent clerics do not represent any state other than themselves.

No Al-Qaeda tv channels or other terrorist groups but they still have thousands of members and many more supporters. So you cannot stop this in year 2014. They will find other ways to spread their message.

Your right it suits the Iraqi government, i’ll tell you why.

Before ISIS went full retard and started to kill everyone of the opposition none of you had an issue with them either even though they were massacring people in Iraq left and right.
Arms shipments from Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia were distributed to all opposition groups, FSA shared them with ISIS which brought them to Iraq as well.
Aroor never spoke bad about that group until they started killing the other opposition groups,

the Grand mufti of Saudi Arabia did not say that foreign fighters should leave Syria or they would be put in jail until ISIS ( where most foreign fighters are ) started to kill the FSA & Liwa & the rest.

So ofc, it suits this gov that liwa abu fadl is fighting Nusra there, it’s the same thing but the other side.

 

[al-Hasani]

Your right it suits the Iraqi government, i’ll tell you why.

Before ISIS went full retard and started to kill everyone of the opposition none of you had an issue with them either even though they were massacring people in Iraq left and right.
Arms shipments from Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia were distributed to all opposition groups, FSA shared them with ISIS which brought them to Iraq as well.
Aroor never spoke bad about that group until they started killing the other opposition groups,

the Grand mufti of Saudi Arabia did not say that foreign fighters should leave Syria or they would be put in jail until ISIS ( where most foreign fighters are ) started to kill the FSA & Liwa & the rest.

So ofc, it suits this gov that liwa abu fadl is fighting Nusra there, it’s the same thing but the other side.

What is the problem then? Sunni Muslims and Sunni Muslim states, including the Arab ones, are still supporting the Syrian opposition while Iraq prefers Al-Asshead to win despite claiming to be neutral which they are far from being.

Don't care about al-Aroor. Never watched a single full speech from him and don't plan to. Who is he anyway?

Bullshit.

2013-01-07

Saudi Grand Mufti warns against jihad in Syria | Al-Shorfa

"I think that material support through regular channels is the suitable option, and also praying for [Syrians]," he said.

This was 14 months ago where there was no infighting and ISIS was relatively weak.

You can even find similar statements from 2012.

 

[Doritos11]

What is the problem then? Sunni Muslims and Sunni Muslim states, including the Arab ones, are still supporting the Syrian opposition

You mean the monarchy pro US/British states ? Those are not Sunni Muslim states.

while Iraq prefers Al-Asshead to win despite claiming to be neutral which they are far from being.

Who says they prefer, since when does a country or government have an official opinion other then it’s official stance on the conflict, each politician has it’s own preferences like we do, but the official stance is what counts which is : Neutral, had it not been neutral the gov woud open training camps, 100.000+ people would gladly join and enter Syria since they’re already sick of the terror at home which is connected to Syria.

Don't care about al-Aroor. Never watched a single full speech from him and don't plan to. Who is he anyway?

One of many used by the Gulfies to turn the conflict sectarian ( don’t give the your not a khaleeji speech don’t care I say Gulfies it’s easier to combine you all ).

Bullshit.

2013-01-07

Saudi Grand Mufti warns against jihad in Syria | Al-Shorfa
You can even find similar statements from 2012.

Begin 2013 there were already tensions between these groups, it means nothing, they don’t want to put many in jail when they return as they did with the radical Saudis that returned from Afghanistan in the 80’s whom were sent by the Saudi state.
Besides, what the Mufti says is used as public speech, they have had their other secret idea’s in the war as always. Iran’s leaders barely talk about the Saudi regime, but we know their opinion on them.