how much of Urdu is Sanskrit based and persian based?

[Rig Vedic]

Irish Daily

Why does my child study Sanskrit?
by Rutger Kortenhorst
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You may well say: ‘Fine, but so why should my son or daughter have yet another subject and another script to learn in their already busy school-day?’ In what way will he or she benefit from the study of Sanskrit in 2012 in the Western world?

The qualities of Sanskrit will become the qualities of your child- that is the mind and heart of your child will become beautiful, precise and reliable.
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Nicely written.

The sad thing is that learning Sanskrit in India today immediately earns you the label of an evil communalist. In fact, the first hatchet job that the present regime performed, immediately after coming to power in 2004, was to viciously cut funding for Sanskrit education.

 

[LaBong]

So what are the languages that evolved from Sanskrit apart from Bengali..Marathi perhaps?

Bengali, Marathi, Asamiya are also North Indic language. North Indic is linguistic group, not the same as geographical region north India.

Generally spoken Hindustani , the lingua franca of north India has many Persian, Turk loanwords, more than other Indic language. Bengali is very tatsama heavy, don't know about Marathi.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Nicely written.

The sad thing is that learning Sanskrit in India today immediately earns you the label of an evil communalist. In fact, the first hatchet job that the present regime performed, immediately after coming to power in 2004, was to viciously cut funding for Sanskrit education.

First, it is nice but wrong in certain aspects.

Second, cutting off funds from Sanskrit education will lead to a situation where we will have to import teachers and professors of Sanskrit. That day is not as far enough away as we imagine.

The common mistake is when we say North Indic languages evolved from Sanskrit, which is wrong. North Indic languages in fact originated from Prakrit and have been heavily Sanskritized with Sanskrit loanwords. That's why anyone speaking North Indic language wouldn't understand Sanskrit but will get the meaning of some words nevertheless.

Nicely and precisely put.

 

[Safriz]

Case of Shared Vocabulary of Turkish and Urdu Languages (by Ammar Younas)

 

[Rig Vedic]

There is no descendant of Sanskrit anywhere outside South Asia today, not even in the supposed Central Asian homeland of the Aryans.

The evidence indicates that the language originated in the Gangetic valley and expanded out from there.

A recent post relating to this point - http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...15390-enemy-pakistan-army-47.html#post3563870

 

[Safriz]

www.defence.pk/forums/members-club/183256-similarities-between-japanese-urdu.html

 

[Joe Shearer]

Bengali, Marathi, Asamiya are also North Indic language. North Indic is linguistic group, not the same as geographical region north India.

Generally spoken Hindustani , the lingua franca of north India has many Persian, Turk loanwords, more than other Indic language. Bengali is very tatsama heavy, don't know about Marathi.

You missed the bus. You should have written about Ardhamagadhi and Sauraseni, and how Prakrit language teachers have practically converted Sauraseni into a version of Ardhamagadhi. You should have written about how Ardhamagadhi gave rise to all the eastern Indo-Aryan languages, and how similarly Sauraseni birthed the western set. Pity.

 

[Rig Vedic]

The common mistake is when we say North Indic languages evolved from Sanskrit, which is wrong. North Indic languages in fact originated from Prakrit ...

You can go from Chandra to Chand, not vice versa.
Similiarly, from Aksha to Aankh, not vice versa.
Matsya to Machhli, not vice versa,

and thousands of other examples.

 

[Joe Shearer]

There is no descendant of Sanskrit anywhere outside South Asia today, not even in the supposed Central Asian homeland of the Aryans.

The evidence indicates that the language originated in the Gangetic valley and expanded out from there.

A recent post relating to this point - http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...15390-enemy-pakistan-army-47.html#post3563870

And Destry Rides Again......

 

[Rusty]

There is no descendant of Sanskrit anywhere outside South Asia today, not even in the supposed Central Asian homeland of the Aryans.

The evidence indicates that the language originated in the Gangetic valley and expanded out from there.

A recent post relating to this point - http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...15390-enemy-pakistan-army-47.html#post3563870

huh?
What are you trying to say?
Of course there is no decedents of Sanskrit outside South Asia, Sanskrit it the "Indo" part of the "Indo-European" language group.

 

[Joe Shearer]

huh?
What are you trying to say?
Of course there is no decedents of Sanskrit outside South Asia, Sanskrit it the "Indo" part of the "Indo-European" language group.

Precisely. Please do not be horrified at this unexpected development, but I agree with your (obvious) point.

 

[LaBong]

You missed the bus. You should have written about Ardhamagadhi and Sauraseni, and how Prakrit language teachers have practically converted Sauraseni into a version of Ardhamagadhi. You should have written about how Ardhamagadhi gave rise to all the eastern Indo-Aryan languages, and how similarly Sauraseni birthed the western set. Pity.

Yes I know about dramatic prakrits, but since I'm mobile, so took the easy route.

 

[kingkobra]

There is no descendant of Sanskrit anywhere outside South Asia today, not even in the supposed Central Asian homeland of the Aryans.

The evidence indicates that the language originated in the Gangetic valley and expanded out from there.

A recent post relating to this point - http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...15390-enemy-pakistan-army-47.html#post3563870

Search about Avestan and you will be amazed to see how similar it is to sanskrit.

 

[LaBong]

You can go from Chandra to Chand, not vice versa.
Similiarly, from Aksha to Aankh, not vice versa.
Matsya to Machhli, not vice versa,

and thousands of other examples.

Those are Sanskrit cognate, loanwords. What's your point?

Sanskrit was never meant evolve. It's too rigid, constrained by its grammar.

Sanskrit influence the indic languages in the same way Latin influenced English.

 

[Rig Vedic]

huh?
What are you trying to say?
Of course there is no decedents of Sanskrit outside South Asia, Sanskrit it the "Indo" part of the "Indo-European" language group.

No descendants, nor anything that may remotely be considered to be an ancestor. But lots of languages with Sanskrit loan words.

Those are Sanskrit cognate, loanwords. What's your point?

Sanskrit was never meant evolve. It's too rigid, constrained by its grammar.

Sanskrit influence the indic languages in the same way Latin influenced English.

I would not call them loanwords, generally languages tend to retain the terms used for very common objects. But modifications do happen, over time.

Search about Avestan and you will be amazed to see how similar it is to sanskrit.

You can in fact say it is the same as Sanskrit.