How much Americans respect their soldiers for wars abroad

[Safriz]

And how disrespectful our politicians and libturds are against our Soldiers even when they fought wars at home for protection for the same people.

 

[Tokhme khar]

The ones who end up in the US armed forces are from the lower middle class. This has been a feature of the narrative. Nothing can be done about this. The Pentagon remains the largest employer of the lower middle class. A distant second is Walmart. What can we expect from the lower middle class? nothing!

If you don't employ these scumbags somewhere they commit crimes. 55 million Americans are already on food stamps.

 

[PAR 5]

Oh Freakin' Bummer! Good for TV only. US Veterans are the most neglected breed in the USA. Many commit suicide or live like hobos. Retired officers find it difficult to get a job in the private sector. Long time back there was a pop song called '19'. Its re produced below to depict the plight of US Veterans since the Vietnam War. Nothing has changed til to date

 

[Vapnope]

And how disrespectful our politicians and libturds are against our Soldiers even when they fought wars at home for protection for the same people.

Go read this,
https://www.va.gov/opa/pressrel/pressrelease.cfm?id=2951
https://www.va.gov/HOMELESS/accomplishments/2016-by-the-numbers.asp

 

[SabzShaheen]

And how disrespectful our politicians and libturds are against our Soldiers even when they fought wars at home for protection for the same people.

Really? Forgive my ignorance but I didn't know the average Pakistani politician or "liberals" disrespected our soldiers, rather I thought they were against the unconstitutional and disproportional influence the military establishment has in Pakistani society and our governance.

 

[Maxpane]

Really? Forgive my ignorance but I didn't know the average Pakistani politician or "liberals" disrespected our soldiers, rather I thought they were against the unconstitutional and disproportional influence the military establishment has in Pakistani society and our governance.

100000 percent agree sir

 

[leapx]

I think most American respect those soldiers. Soldiers should not take the blame of involving in a wrong war.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Most of Pakistani society fully supports the military, far more than in the US.

Its by far the most trusted public institution in Pakistan.

 

[Safriz]

Really? Forgive my ignorance but I didn't know the average Pakistani politician or "liberals" disrespected our soldiers, rather I thought they were against the unconstitutional and disproportional influence the military establishment has in Pakistani society and our governance.

If you know the Pakistani laws, there was never anything unconstitutional about any Martial laws.

 

[SabzShaheen]

If you know the Pakistani laws, there was never anything unconstitutional about any Martial laws.

I wasn't talking about martial law (though if you can prove it was never unconstitutional then it would be appreciated). I was talking about how the military establishment seeps its influence into Pakistani society and brainwashes them into believing the military is uncorrupt, infallible and completely trustworthy. Voices critical of the military are quelled and those who rightfully demand civilian leadership of the country are deemed traitors and "liberals".

 

[Safriz]

I wasn't talking about martial law (though if you can prove it was never unconstitutional then it would be appreciated). I was talking about how the military establishment seeps its influence into Pakistani society and brainwashes them into believing the military is uncorrupt, infallible and completely trustworthy. Voices critical of the military are quelled and those who rightfully demand civilian leadership of the country are deemed traitors and "liberals".

Every Pakistani citizen including the military has the right to express themselves in the benefit of the country.
If military exposes political dishonesty and exposes their corruption, thats a great thing and thats why politicians have a problem with military and also libturds.

 

[SabzShaheen]

Every Pakistani citizen including the military has the right to express themselves in the benefit of the country.
If military exposes political dishonesty and exposes their corruption, thats a great thing and thats why politicians have a problem with military and also libturds.

What do you mean the "military has the right to express themselves"? They are not meant to comment on civilian affairs. Their role is meant to be confined to catering to Pakistan's defence interests as laid out by the government. Any step beyond that is a step against the people of Pakistan as we elect politicians to serve us and if they don't, we get rid of them. Anyone who thinks the military should do that is insulting every Pakistani, effectively calling us incompetent. If you want to live in a world where you live under an iron fist where you blindly follow the leadership under the illusion they are infallible then you are a threat to whatever country you live in.
Do you even know what "liberal" means? I'm not asking for a copy-paste definition of the word, rather if you actually understand what you're saying when you accuse someone of belonging to a creed of thought, let alone equating liberalism with anti-nationalism.

 

[Dai Toruko]

Conservatives/Republicans they love supporting veterans! Unless they are "houseless"! Then they say,"Pick yourself up by your bootstraps you Bums, get a job"!

 

[Gomig-21]

And how disrespectful our politicians and libturds are against our Soldiers even when they fought wars at home for protection for the same people.

Goes to show the world is actually full of good people. They even outnumber the bad by a huuuuuuuuuuge margin, it's just that we're programmed in a certain sadistic sense because we have to keep an eye on the negative events in order to control the level of good. It's a simple and long-standing formula.

 

[jhungary]

Oh Freakin' Bummer! Good for TV only. US Veterans are the most neglected breed in the USA. Many commit suicide or live like hobos. Retired officers find it difficult to get a job in the private sector. Long time back there was a pop song called '19'. Its re produced below to depict the plight of US Veterans since the Vietnam War. Nothing has changed til to date

How do you mean "Many" committed suicide and live like Hobo?

In a 2016 survey, about 39,000 homeless vet and 6000 committed suicide. That number may be higher than the national average, but by no mean "Many" considered up to 2 millions servicemen were deployed to both Iraq and Afghanistan.

There are a very well support network the US Government provided to the veteran, but whether one take advantage of those support network is up to individual veteran. And most of the return vet refused to be help because either they are too high strung (which is a trait of a soldier) or too embarrassed to seek help. Other simply come home without any direction and basically lost in the sea of humanity.

A support, any support is only as good as when they were taking advantage of by the people who need them, and most people are simply too embarrassed to ask for help when they need it.

I knew, because I've been there.

Also, if you want to post a vid about the voice of the veteran, I highly recommend Cold Chisel's Khe Sanh