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The two processes that the U.S. would like to reverse—China’s economic strength and the emergence of multipolarity—are now inevitable.
 
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Almost all long standing conflicts today can be traced back to western domination, Palestine-Israel, India-Pakistan..what a legacy.
we can fix the past only to a much lesser degree than we can the future.

and past sins by one party are no excuse for the committing of new sins by another nation.

as evidenced by both Chinese activity in Tibet, and during the tianamen peace protests, Chinese leadership can not be trusted to rule over more than whom they already rule.
 
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What a stupid accusation, China hasn't fired a single shot at her borders for 4 decades and China has 14 neigbors, the most in the world, China can be arguably the most peaceful nation in the world.
that's perhaps because you subscribe to Sun Tzu, whom declared "the best victory is the one where you don't actually have to fight".

that does not mean however, that we'll trust China with a massive military build up.

too many other items on *your* internal regional histories can be described as 'black pages'.
 
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The two processes that the U.S. would like to reverse—China’s economic strength and the emergence of multipolarity—are now inevitable.
i'm not against an economically strong China, nor against a well-defended China, nor against the emergence of multipolarity.

but i do have some serious criticism to offer about how that multipolarity is achieved. through suppressed oppression and corruption, or through peaceful cooperation, or through a hybrid of both.

Chinese fanboys like to thomp their chest "the west is evil, and nothing will stop our march to military supremacy", and i'm going to let that slide to a great extent. It is part of our repentance, to acknowledge sins comitted by our ancestors. I don't see Chinese fanboys do that, by the way. Something they might want to consider, if you want to be taken seriously in these negotations, which are ultimately about 2 things : security, and economic harvest in long-contested regions. Fish, oil and shipping route taxes in the South China Sea, and other things in other places.
 
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you're right in principle, but i still believe that looking toward the future is more important than looking toward the past.

and you were out of line on some points already when you started to go into specific accusations, once again : that only derails our discussion, which should be about China's near and mid-term future plans for the region it's located in.

of course i'm uncomfortable with that. the west *won* the international wars, to an extent. and now China wants to expand the wars again, all the while denying that it is up to such plans, in very transparent ways.

as to which is mightier, China or the west and it's *many* free nation allies, we'll see.
i already went into what the west and it's citizens might do, i already went into what China could do to prevent such measures from becoming a necessity. so i'm not going to repeat myself within one thread, ok.

after WW2, the west never fought a united war against a major opponent. NATO never fought the Warsaw Pact. It has only fought riskless wars such as against Iraq, with mostly the US doing the heavy lifting. in Libya, the UK and France had major logistics trouble, even running out of ammunition, against a small African country that couldn't shoot back.

meanwhile after WW2, China fought wars against heavyweights like the US+South Korea and India, and won both. China has never shied away from a fight.

but currently, there is no war. China has not fought against anyone. All activities so far have been 100% peaceful. Thus any war will be the fault of the non-Chinese party shooting first.
 
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as evidenced by both Chinese activity in Tibet, and during the tianamen peace protests, Chinese leadership can not be trusted to rule over more than whom they already rule.
What China does in China has nothing to do with the west, we greatly improve the lives in Tibet and Tibet is now a hundred times more developed than Dalai Lama's serfdom rule. When would the west learn to get their big nose out of other people's business? still believe you are the world police?
 
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This crap looks good on power point in big hall where indians trying to portray pic of china as an evil empire when india is having thins exact trouble with everyone of its neighbours.
But is India debt-trapping other nations, like China does?
and India is definitely not building up a massive marine and advanced airpower capability for their military. India's military plays more of a true defense role, if i'm not mistaken..
 
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that's perhaps because you subscribe to Sun Tzu, whom declared "the best victory is the one where you don't actually have to fight".

that does not mean however, that we'll trust China with a massive military build up.

too many other items on *your* internal regional histories can be described as 'black pages'.
Whatever you like to spin in your mind, no one can deny the fact, China hasn't fire the a single shot in 4 decades while western countires are busy following US waging wars all around the world non stop, killing and displacing tens of millions.
 
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But is India debt-trapping other nations, like China does?
and India is definitely not building up a massive marine and advanced airpower capability for their military. India's military plays more of a true defense role, if i'm not mistaken..

India attacked and annexed a European NATO member's sovereign territory in 1961. NATO refused to respond despite Goa being legally part of metropolitan Portugal.

India then dismantled Pakistan in 1971 in a war of aggression.

India then annexed the independent nation of Sikkim in 1975.
 
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Jimmy Carter: US 'Most Warlike Nation in History of the World'
Former president says peaceful China 'ahead of us in almost every way.'

by Brett Wilkins

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Most countries surveyed in a 2013 WIN/Gallup poll identified the United States as the greatest threat to world peace. (Photo: CD/CC BY 2.0)

The only US president to complete his term without war, military attack or occupation has called the United States “the most warlike nation in the history of the world.”

During his regular Sunday school lesson at Maranatha Baptist Church in his hometown of Plains, Georgia, Jimmy Carter revealed that he had recently spoken with President Donald Trump about China. Carter, 94, said Trump was worried about China’s growing economy and expressed concern that “China is getting ahead of us.”

Carter, who normalized diplomatic relations between Washington and Beijing in 1979, said he told Trump that much of China’s success was due to its peaceful foreign policy.

Carter then referred to the US as “the most warlike nation in the history of the world,” a result, he said, of the US forcing other countries to “adopt our American principles.”

“Since 1979, do you know how many times China has been at war with anybody?” Carter asked. “None, and we have stayed at war.” While it is true that China’s last major war—an invasion of Vietnam—occurred in 1979, its People’s Liberation Army pounded border regions of Vietnam with artillery and its navy battled its Vietnamese counterpart in the 1980s. Since then, however, China has been at peace with its neighbors and the world.

Carter then said the US has been at peace for only 16 of its 242 years as a nation. Counting wars, military attacks and military occupations, there have actually only been five years of peace in US history—1976, the last year of the Gerald Ford administration and 1977-80, the entirety of Carter’s presidency. Carter then referred to the US as “the most warlike nation in the history of the world,” a result, he said, of the US forcing other countries to “adopt our American principles.”

China’s peace dividend has allowed and enhanced its economic growth, Carter said. “How many miles of high-speed railroad do we have in this country?” he asked. China has around 18,000 miles (29,000 km) of high speed rail lines while the US has “wasted, I think, $3 trillion” on military spending. According to a November 2018 study by Brown University’s Watson Institute of International and Public Affairs, the US has spent $5.9 trillion waging war in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan and other nations since 2001.

“It’s more than you can imagine,” Carter said of US war spending. “China has not wasted a single penny on war, and that’s why they’re ahead of us. In almost every way.”

“And I think the difference is if you take $3 trillion and put it in American infrastructure you’d probably have $2 trillion leftover,” Carter told his congregation. “We’d have high-speed railroad. We’d have bridges that aren’t collapsing, we’d have roads that are maintained properly. Our education system would be as good as that of say South Korea or Hong Kong.”

The US has also invaded or bombed dozens of countries and supported nearly every single right wing dictatorship in the world since the end of World War II.

While there is a prevalent belief in the United States that the country almost always wages war for noble purposes and in defense of freedom, global public opinion and facts paint a very different picture. Most countries surveyed in a 2013 WIN/Gallup poll identified the United States as the greatest threat to world peace, and a 2017 Pew Research poll found that a record number of people in 30 surveyed nations viewed US power and influence as a “major threat.”

The US has also invaded or bombed dozens of countries and supported nearly every single right wing dictatorship in the world since the end of World War II. It has overthrown or attempted to overthrow dozens of foreign governments since 1949 and has actively sought to crush nearly every single people’s liberation movement over that same period. It has also meddled in scores of elections, in countries that are allies and adversaries alike.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/04/18/jimmy-carter-us-most-warlike-nation-history-world
 
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What China does in China has nothing to do with the west, we greatly improve the lives in Tibet and Tibet is now a hundred times more developed than Dalai Lama's serfdom rule. When would the west learn to get their big nose out of other people's business? still believe you are the world police?
ah, good friend, you fall so easily for the indoctrination and propaganda of your own rulers!
such is the way off the cliff, for some, you should learn before it's too late.

you have a *habit* of suppressing life styles with severe and semi-secret violence that do not conform to what your rulers think is good for the population as a whole. but when your population numbers beyond the billion individuals, it might prove harder and harder to do this in secrecy, which is one of the main points that'll prove to force real change into Chinese leadership styles and even, maybe, which families run the country.

this won't happen over night, it'll happen over the next few decades. cold wars take decades, not months or years.
 
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I guess US president knows the west better than a random Dutch.
oh no dear friend.. i'll not let you use our own words against us.

China and Russia each have their own style of leadership.
China oppresses by using force that is kept secret, by applying more and nastier force.
And now you want to be trusted with a huge military build up and dominance of an entire region that's in vital international shipping lanes. We're not that stupid, ok.

Russia has a slightly different style of international coercion, but that's digressing.
 
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ah, good friend, you fall so easily for the indoctrination and propaganda of your own rulers!
such is the way off the cliff, for some, you should learn before it's too late.

you have a *habit* of suppressing life styles with severe and semi-secret violence that do not conform to what your rulers think is good for the population as a whole. but when your population numbers beyond the billion individuals, it might prove harder and harder to do this in secrecy, which is one of the main points that'll prove to force real change into Chinese leadership styles and even, maybe, which families run the country.

this won't happen over night, it'll happen over the next few decades. cold wars take decades, not months or years.
What China does in China has anything to do with the west? still pretending you are the world police, accusing someone possessing WMD , invading and killing them, China is stronger than you now, you guys better get rid of your deep seated colonial mindset or we'll give you guys a very rude awakening.
 
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oh no dear friend.. i'll not let you use our own words against us.

China and Russia each have their own style of leadership.
China oppresses by using force that is kept secret, by applying more and nastier force.
And now you want to be trusted with a huge military build up and dominance of an entire region that's in vital international shipping lanes. We're not that stupid, ok.

Russia has a slightly different style of international coercion, but that's digressing.
China and Russia are too big for you Dutch to interfere, you sound more and more like a joke, a midget trying to interfere with the domestic issues of giants.
 
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