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LET'S AGREE WITH THE PREMISE THAT THE WORLD IS DIVIDED INTO RELIGIOUS AND IDEOLOGICAL BLOCS AND DISCUSS THIS ACs ISSUE . WE WILL SEE WHAT THE WORLD WOULD BE LIKE IN A FEW YEARS

the result will be

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Hmm since unlike aircraft carriers, humans have religion, terrorists are often motivated by religious identities. They believe they are serving god and will be rewarded highly in heaven.Hence the label isnt it ?

aircraft carriers, no matter however you try, cannot be 'islamic'. just like potatoes and cement.
you also manufacture cement and potatoes dont you ? doesnt it feed your economy ? why not
call them islamic potatoes and islamic cement ?

it is sad that you have to associate weapons, nuclear bombs, etc with islamic. the so called "islamic bomb" is heard often. tall talk...
 
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Think about this. The Japanese, British, Russians and Americans have had ACs about 70 years ago. Why can't a group of 1.6 Billion + people who claim to be Muslim not even develop one?

Because none of the Muslim country having vast coastline have a sound economy and political stability to afford a carrier fleet. Only Turkey can afford one, they don't need it though.

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Phele ek toh operational hone do , phir sapne deklena :D

Maybe in the next 3 decades we might think about a nuclear AC

We have successfully made nuclear reactor of 80MW for Arihant, two of them can propel a 60-70k ton AC. So going for a nuclear powered career is only a mere political decision.
 
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Think about this. The Japanese, British, Russians and Americans have had ACs about 70 years ago. Why can't a group of 1.6 Billion + people who claim to be Muslim not even develop one?

whattttttttttttttttttt ? never read such post before :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

these 1.6bn humans has 57 majority countries and 150 others countries
these 1.6 bn humans have 72 schools of thoughts and each one think other71 are wrong
these 1.6bn humans can't travel to each other country without visa
these 1.6bn humans have wars with each other
these 1.6bn humans have two major groups shia and suni
these 1.6bn humans have no any interest ti even make unity one day
these 1.6bn humans never agree on day in 70 years
these 1.6bn humans talk 700 languages and each one is proud of its own language
these 1.6bn humans never ever halp each other without any benefit
these 1.6bn humans never have a single unites university
these 1.6bn humans none of them even can agree on prayer the basic thing of islam
these 1.6bn humans even can't agree on AZAAN time
these 1.6bn humans each country has 100 groups fighting each other
these 1.6bn humans even can't agree on eid day
these 1.6bn humans are not one so please don't use term for them as they are one and failed
 
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Think about this. The Japanese, British, Russians and Americans have had ACs about 70 years ago. Why can't a group of 1.6 Billion + people who claim to be Muslim not even develop one?

Again, why slice it on religion? Looking at it in a different way, 209 million of the above mentioned 1.6 billion muslims who live in United States, United Kingdom, France, Russia, Italy, India, Spain, Brazil, and Thailand, do have one or more aircraft carriers.. After all, Islam is not the sole property of Muslim majority countries..:)
 
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Think about this. The Japanese, British, Russians and Americans have had ACs about 70 years ago. Why can't a group of 1.6 Billion + people who claim to be Muslim not even develop one?

for that one needs to have resource and mainly brain to develop one,But before making a AC, your so called "islamic world" should make a submarine atleast...

But any way ,your"islamic World" is waaaaaaaaaaaaay behind in Technology.....


I know only one world that is this earth where human live,And from where did this Islamic world came??
 
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Think about this. The Japanese, British, Russians and Americans have had ACs about 70 years ago. Why can't a group of 1.6 Billion + people who claim to be Muslim not even develop one?

First, your source is a terribly weak, feeble one (Wikipedia).
Second, ask Qatar, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, other Muslim wealthy countries to pay Indonesia $5 billion, they will deliver two aircraft carriers in less than 2 years' time possibly. That is because Indonesia is already capable of producing them, but they have no "enemies" to seek confrontation with, so they don't take that route.

Most countries operate aircraft carriers as an offensive tool for "power projection" like Americans, Brits, French, Russians (to a lesser extent), and in the future, maybe the Chinese. Some other countries purchased them as vanity projects, like India, Thailand, Brazil etc. The second category of countries purchased 60 or 50 year old aircraft carriers to show-off their power. Thailand's 11,000 ton aircraft carrier does not even operate most of the time because it's too costly to operate.

Another false statement in your initial post was that only one Muslim (majority) country has any helicopter carrying naval vessel. Sorry, don't you know that Indonesia already operates at least 5 LPDs? Most of them were built in Indonesia at PT PAL.

The brief lesson for you is that don't use Wikipedia to enhance your knowledge, ever. It's a site meant for complete ignoramuses.
 
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Think about this. The Japanese, British, Russians and Americans have had ACs about 70 years ago. Why can't a group of 1.6 Billion + people who claim to be Muslim not even develop one?

Because there's a conspiracy going on against us bro. The Devil is at work to suppress our great potential. Inshallah we will overcome the Devil's plans and establish the Caliphate spanning all continents.

First of all, we need to establish Shariah law in our countries. Men must follow the sunnah, keep beards, women must wear veils and deviant sects (ahmediyas, shias) must be expelled from our countries. Inshallah all else will fall in place!
 
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for that one needs to have resource and mainly brain to develop one,But before making a AC, your so called "islamic world" should make a submarine atleast...

But any way ,your"islamic World" is waaaaaaaaaaaaay behind in Technology.....


I know only one world that is this earth where human live,And from where did this Islamic world came??


An Indian saying the "Islamic world" is way behind in Technology is utterly ignorant and idiotic. Muslims were the first people in the world to build submarines, long before any infidel Europeans. Later on, the European infidels overtook the Muslims in technology because the Muslims themselves ignored the rulings of Islamic Shariah.

Do you know that Iran builds midget subs? Do you know that Indonesia is going to assemble submarines under T-o-T from Korea (who probably obtained license from Germany) for submarine manufacture?

India has the world's largest number of illiterate and poor, and here you are saying the "Islamic world" is way behind in technology? Indian illiteracy on show!

The Muslim world's problem is lack of unity, knowledge, information about each other. Look at the thread starter. He, like most other Muslims, know very little of the Muslim world, he even relies on Wikipedia as his only source of information. You can never trust any "reliable" Western media for information, it would be foolish to use Wikipedia (which is unreliable even for Western idiots) as the only source of information.

Now, can you show us a single LPD/LHD designed and built by India?
 
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Because there's a conspiracy going on against us bro. The Devil is at work to suppress our great potential. Inshallah we will overcome the Devil's plans and establish the Caliphate spanning all continents.

First of all, we need to establish Shariah law in our countries. Men must follow the sunnah, keep beards, women must wear veils and deviant sects (ahmediyas, shias) must be expelled from our countries. Inshallah all else will fall in place!
I hope you're being sarcastic, i don't think your hair style will go well with a beard.
 
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Because there's a conspiracy going on against us bro. The Devil is at work to suppress our great potential. Inshallah we will overcome the Devil's plans and establish the Caliphate spanning all continents.

First of all, we need to establish Shariah law in our countries. Men must follow the sunnah, keep beards, women must wear veils and deviant sects (ahmediyas, shias) must be expelled from our countries. Inshallah all else will fall in place!

Maybe you were trying to be funny, but it only made you sound very ignorant and not-so-intelligent.

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The Russian Navy has never had a proper carrier in service. They had the Kiev class half carrier / half cruiser

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Forgot the Kuznetsov class?
 
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whattttttttttttttttttt ? never read such post before :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

these 1.6bn humans has 57 majority countries and 150 others countries
these 1.6 bn humans have 72 schools of thoughts and each one think other71 are wrong
these 1.6bn humans can't travel to each other country without visa
these 1.6bn humans have wars with each other
these 1.6bn humans have two major groups shia and suni
these 1.6bn humans have no any interest ti even make unity one day
these 1.6bn humans never agree on day in 70 years
these 1.6bn humans talk 700 languages and each one is proud of its own language
these 1.6bn humans never ever halp each other without any benefit
these 1.6bn humans never have a single unites university
these 1.6bn humans none of them even can agree on prayer the basic thing of islam
these 1.6bn humans even can't agree on AZAAN time
these 1.6bn humans each country has 100 groups fighting each other
these 1.6bn humans even can't agree on eid day
these 1.6bn humans are not one so please don't use term for them as they are one and failed


Good list. The point, as I have mentioned before, is the lack of unity and knowledge/information about each other in the Muslim world. Indonesia can already build aircraft carriers, but did the wealthy Gulf Arab countries ever seek to purchase aircraft carriers from Indonesia? Let's build, design and develop aircraft carriers jointly, maybe?. No, they don't ever think of that.

Look at Egypt's military leaders. They probably purchased some silly patrol boats from Finland or some other Western country. Why? Why not buy from UAE's ADSB? At least, Bahrain does that, it strengthens Muslim industry, employs Muslims, increases our own expertise, experience and knowledge, and in the future, we can go for joint developments as well.

Not just Egypt, almost every other Muslim country seems to be so ignorant they do not even look into other Muslim countries' capabilities before pursuing any project.
 
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