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How long will it take for India to realise it's not a great country?

Its a paradox... why would a fool discover he is a fool because if he could discover that he was a fool, he wouldn't be a fool anymore.

Mark of a Great Nation,

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India is one of the oldest continuous civilization of almost 6000 years. India is the land that gave the world four major religions : Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism and Jainism that are followed by half the world's population. What more do you need to tell that India is a great country.
So has Africa. Should we put India in the same category as Africa? You haven't given the world anything that matters in todays time.
 
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So has Africa. Should we put India in the same category as Africa? You haven't given the world anything that matters in todays time.
If you want to tag us with African nations plz do we believe in humanity and all are equal for us, BTW Which category does Pakistan belongs too??
 
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How long will it take for Chinese posters to stop digging around the net to looks for stuff that suits their fancy against India ?
 
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That was the point.

When the other party howls and screams like a child and makes a mockery out of itself, that means you've won.

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Right from stupid racist videos to running an entire Ministry of Warning day and night for 2 months.

No wonder even small countries like Botswana and Norway get on their nerves so easily.



Or for that matter, censor the shit out of everything that lives and breathes in one's country just because it is not in line with what a bunch of oldie politicians think. :D



OR Toilets or GDP growth rate or quantum computing or the number of patents filed or for anything else. :D
Point is end of the day your a 3rd world country. You don't have the infrastructure or social benefits compared to 1st world country. Not even a regional power. Sooner ur understand the better it is for u.
 
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A country where one cannot vote out the current leaders is akin to being a slave.
People need to choose their own leaders and remove anyone who is not up to the mark.
In China, the government is first and the people second, it should actually be the other way around.
 
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A country where one cannot vote out the current leaders is akin to being a slave.
People need to choose their own leaders and remove anyone who is not up to the mark.
In China, the government is first and the people second, it should actually be the other way around.

Chinese people do not have a govt serving them.
It's govt has a 1.5 billion people serving them.

What a bloody pity/
 
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So has Africa. Should we put India in the same category as Africa? You haven't given the world anything that matters in todays time.

No problems.

We have no issues in being compared to the Africans in terms of historical legacy.

Aren't they great carriers of civilisations? Of course they are.

Ever since colonisation started, they have been in a mess. Right from adopting the ideologies of their colonisers, most African countries have seen nothing but pain, death, misery, bloodshed and wars which are not even their own.

We have given the world many things that matter a lot even today just as China, Egypt, Greece, Romans, Incans, Aztecs, Persians and other ancients have given.

What have you given to the world? Except for putting your label of 'arabic or islamic inventions' everything from Trigonometry, to paper to space calculations were either stolen or adopted from ancient Iran, India and China who were the three powerful civilisations of the Eastern world. You didn't even exist till 1400 years ago.

The medieval Europeans, suffering from the same mental darkness as Middle East of today does, thought that you as traders were inventors of numbers, calculations, space and what not. And you thought this mistake is best served as an opportunity to absorb the knowledge and skills which were existent in the ancient world.

Name me one thing that your lot have contributed to the world since the existence.

I am not talking about the stolen/copied inventions and innovations with your rubber stamp on it;

I mean real stuff such as medicine, art, literature, surgery, sciences, astronomy, mathematics, music, philosophy etc.

Let me elaborate on what I mean by real a bit further:

1- Medicine: The so-called Unani system of medicine originated in Greece, which during the times of Selucus and ancient Macedonia was adopted from Ayurveda; from ancient India.


2- Produce: Silk, tea, abacus and some other calculating instruments were invented in ancient China. Not Muslim world which only traded between east and west.

Papyrus was invented in ancient Egypt long before you existed. Again, not your stuff.

3- Astronomy was a science long ago in three ancient civilisations (much much before your existence):

a- India: Aryabhatta, Bhaskaracharya, Varahamihira, Bharadwaja, Kapila, Sanghamitra, Kashyapa (yes, :D of 'Kashmir' fame) etc.

b- China: Shi Shen, Su Song, Yi Xing, Zhang Heng, Zu Chongzhi etc.

c- Greece: Eratosthenes, Aristarchus etc

This is just a small sample of what ancient civilisations contributed long before your existence.

So spare us the trouble of your ignorance and please start with not killing non-Muslims world around.

That'll be a great start to contributing something positive once the tendency to kill everyone goes.

Point is end of the day your a 3rd world country. You don't have the infrastructure or social benefits compared to 1st world country. Not even a regional power. Sooner ur understand the better it is for u.

Dost, China is also considered a third world country by the bunch of nations who invented this term.

That's the point.

We don't want to be a world police.

Never intended to. But doesn't mean we won't defend ourselves.
 
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How long will it take for India to realise it's not a great country?
Governments must learn to tell the truth and not hype the lies.
12-06-2017

Sir Edmund Burke’s last stanza from his poem "Mirror" is telling of our times.

So never be concerned

If wrinkles/extra flab appear

For one thing I’ve learned

Which is very clear,

Should your reflection

be less than perfection,

It is really the mirror,

That needs correction...

Indeed, it is the mirror’s fault. There have been huge job losses. Farmer suicides continue unabated, there is severe drought in the southern parts of the country, education systems and standards indifferent as ever, be it in higher or secondary school level, index of industrial manufacturing is down, Q4 financial results finally show the bite inflicted by demonetisation, borders on the west are alive and afire.

All of them are but passing clouds which by a few Vedic mantras will disappear and the sun will shine on our divinely blessed republic, nice and bright. After all, we have seen and done all this before. Plastic surgery, wind powered planes, moving mountains is a part of our heritage and our civilisational history. Soon there will be a resurrection and our ancient knowledge will be revealed unto us again. The world, particularly, China and Pakistan, better watch out!

Meanwhile, the mundane continues to shock and awe. Class 12 results in Bihar are a dismal 33 per cent or so, because strict vigilance allegedly had ensured there will be no cheating. Contrast this with the good times of yore when the space between 98 per cent and 99.5 per cent was jammed with Bihari students as the entire world’s IQs seeded in Nalanda times had yielded a never ending crop of geniuses.

Cow protection has taken higher precedence over the right to life of humans. We have people’s courts dispensing instant justice without a trial and lynch mobs carry out the execution. Be it love jihads or caste violations, khap panchayat-like tribunals or self-proclaimed vigilante groups are pronouncing summary verdicts of guilt on hapless segments of our society.

All this happens, yet the law enforcers of the state are ignorant.

It is not that rogue elements do not exist in any regime but their ability to obtain political support, vocal or muted, is a cause for alarm and indeed a threat to the fabric of a fair and just environment, in which the rule of law is always supreme. Sadly, it is this rule of law that is frequently becoming a casualty all around us.

It is so tempting to blame it all on the kind of people we are. All pervasive lack of civic consciousness, casual regard for discipline, total irreverence for fair play and increasing admiration for might is right.

How can such natives be deserving of justice and fair governance?

Most times, we are handed out lofty slogans by our leaders and for governance, we get deaf ears or inept management pleading scarce resources for non-delivery of public services.

Even artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity, which is abundantly in evidence in the kind of political engagement getting widespread acceptance as the way we run our affairs.

It is so relevant to recall the extract from Henry Miller, the great writer’s essay ‘On Turning Eighty':

“One can fight evil but against stupidity one is helpless… I have accepted the fact, hard as it may be, that human beings are inclined to behave in ways that would make animals blush. The ironic, the tragic thing is that we often behave in ignoble fashion from what we consider the highest motives. The animal makes no excuse for killing his prey; the human animal, on the other hand, can invoke God’s blessing when massacring his fellow men. He forgets that God is not on his side but at his side.”

We have appropriated our preferred Gods to support our respective set of misdeeds and little battles are being fought for and against by invoking their divinity. Gods are safe, but humans are surely imperiled.

It is time that we faced a few home truths. For one, we are not a great power and are not likely to be one, either by 2030 or 2050, or ever, unless we entrench the rule of law, save no exception.

Governments must learn to tell the truth and not hype the lies. If the police have fired on farmers in Mandsaur, then the minister in the state must accept so and not indulge in bare denials. If the farmers have a problem, then it will not disappear by a chief minister going on a fast.

Everybody promises loan waivers, so who will tend to the national treasury? The finances of the nation are not looking good. If the progress of our GDP is facing resistance, then let's not dress it up with masks to belie the real number.

The country is grown up enough to realise that we are facing cumulative consequences, some of good decisions and some of bad or no decisions. We need real steps, beginning with understanding of the issues involved and securing a resolution over a given time frame.

Our problems are hard and intractable through years of glossy attempts at facile answers. They need some serious understanding and solutions rooted in the reality and acceptance of the people.

Public health, decrepit cities with severely impaired civic infrastructure, crippling licensing regimes for doing business, agriculture-related facilitation both in inputs and access to markets, surplus power and deficit power, virtually no land management system and converting to usable supply for various needs, transport solutions, so many issues need urgent attention.

Truth be told, it is the appearance that needs improvement. The mirror can only but reflect the image of an appearance as it receives.

Also read: 3 years of Modi government has turned India into Hindu Rashtra
http://www.dailyo.in/voices/india-rule-of-law-lynchings-cows-farmer-suicides-gdp/story/1/17763.html

The QUESTION is what is China really scared off or worried about
 
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India is one of the oldest continuous civilization of almost 6000 years. India is the land that gave the world four major religions : Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism and Jainism that are followed by half the world's population. What more do you need to tell that India is a great country.

India has a great civilization. The western equivalent would be the western civilization. But India is a civilization, not a country until 1947. After Britain created India and gave it independence.

So India indeed is a great civilization. But it's not a legitimate country. India need to revert into true form just like before British arrival.

The QUESTION is what is China really scared off or worried about

The problem is India, not its neighbors. Before India becomes incredible, it first need to be credible.

indians are sufferring from fa disease which.hav no cure. So answer is never.

India will be a Supa Powa with white servants by 2030

 
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How long will it take for Chinese posters to stop digging around the net to looks for stuff that suits their fancy against India ?

They won't till the BRIC summit is over :disagree:

Haven't you seen a marked decrease in hostility ? You will find the troll army back in full strength after the BRICS summit is over.

That is how the 50 centy army operate.
 
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