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How Jokowi bested China, while Duterte ended up a lackey
Indonesia and Philippines use very different strategies in dealing with Beijing
Richard Heydarian
March 29, 2021 17:00 JST
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Despite five years of servility, China's President Xi Jinping has rewarded has Philippine counterpart Rodrigo Duterte with nothing, not even the COVID vaccines China promised to deliver by the end of 2020. © Reuters
Richard Heydarian is an Asia-based academic, columnist and author of "The Rise of Duterte: A Populist Revolt Against Elite Democracy" and the "The Indo-Pacific: Trump, China and the New Struggle for Global Mastery."
When it comes to the leaders of Southeast Asia's two largest nations Indonesia and the Philippines -- both fledgling democracies in the grip of populism -- each unhappy nation is unhappy in his own way, to paraphrase Leo Tolstoy.
On the surface, Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte and his Indonesian counterpart Joko Widodo, known as Jokowi, not only preside over two very similar nations, but are almost cut from the same cloth. Yet, the two leaders have approached their relations with China quite differently -- and with radically divergent results.

While Duterte's yearslong kowtow to China has brought him not one single big-ticket investment so far, Jokowi's more dignified and sophisticated strategy has secured optimal investment, as well as the early delivery of millions of Chinese-made COVID-19 vaccines. One batch finally arrived at the beginning of the month, and another batch last week for a total of one million shots.

The unmistakable lesson, it seems, is that China treats meek leaders such as Duterte with contempt, but will strike mutually beneficial deals with the likes of Jokowi, who has consistently refused to be intimidated by Asia's superpower. In recent years, Duterte and Jokowi, have been the face of populist politics in Southeast Asia. Both are former provincial mayors who rose to the pinnacle of power by campaigning against a corrupt establishment.

While Duterte has portrayed himself as a man of the people, Jokowi has made proactive service to ordinary citizens the centerpiece of his agenda. Both have adopted tough-on-crime policies, especially toward narcotics.
Crucially, both presidents have staked their development agenda on Chinese largesse, much to the chagrin of conservative forces who have accused them of acting as Beijing's stooges. And yet, Jokowi managed to develop a relatively fruitful relationship based on mutual respect, while Duterte has been left swinging.

While Jokowi relied on a strategy of dynamic balancing among major powers, giving him room for maneuver, Duterte tried to abandon the Philippines' century-old alliance with the U.S. as part of his pivot to China.

A foreign policy neophyte, Duterte unwittingly laid out his cards before becoming being sworn in as president in an interview with Chinese state media in early 2016. "What I need from China is help to develop my country," Duterte pleaded.
Just months later, Duterte became the first Philippine president to choose China, rather than U.S. or Japan, for his first major overseas visit. He is also the first Philippine president to refuse to even visit any major Western capital -- including Washington -- throughout his six-year term.

Convinced of Duterte's naivete, China pledged up to $24 billion in investments, including several large-scale infrastructure projects in Duterte's home of Mindanao. These empty pledges were enough to convince Duterte to forward-deploy major concessions, including the controversial decision not to assert the Philippines' historic arbitration victory against China in the South China Sea.

To Beijing's delight, Duterte even threatened to nix defense cooperation with the U.S. and share precious energy resources within the Philippines' exclusive economic zone with China. Even worse, Duterte quickly came to Beijing's defense when a suspected Chinese militia vessel almost drowned dozens of Filipino fishermen near Reed Bank in 2019.

Proudly confessing his "love" for China's leadership, Duterte has maintained the belief that one has to be "meek" in order to secure Beijing's "mercy." When pressed to stand up to Chinese incursion into Philippine waters, Duterte responded that he was "inutile", too powerless to act. After five years of strategic servility, Duterte has little to show for his pivot to Beijing, not even the large volume of free COVID vaccines China promised to deliver by the end of 2020.

Jokowi, in contrast, has visited both Washington and Beijing, as well as managing to cultivate robust security cooperation with each superpower, strengthening Indonesia's strategic leverage accordingly. When China stepped up its intrusion into Indonesian waters off the Natuna Islands in late 2019, the Indonesian president not only deployed fighter jets and the navy but personally visited the area to remind China that there would "no compromise" over maritime and territorial issues.
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Indonesia's president Joko Widodo has managed to cultivate a productive relationship with China's Xi Jinping based on trust and mutual respect. © Reuters

And despite Indonesia having no direct claim on the South China Sea, Jokowi's diplomats officially invoked the Philippines' arbitration award to question China's expansive claims, as well as openly calling out China over its alleged election interference operations.

As for foreign investment, Indonesia has actively courted not only China but rival nations such as Japan. This conscious strategy of diversification partly explains why Jakarta was able to secure extremely favorable terms, arguably the best under China's Belt and Road Initiative, for the Jakarta-Bandung high-speed railway project.

And when China slackened in fulfilling multibillion-dollar promises, Jokowi did not shy away from using Japan to get Beijing's attention. By 2019, Japan and China became Indonesia's top foreign investors, with dozens of big-ticket infrastructure projects in the pipeline, as Jokowi comfortably played the two economic giants off against each other.
There are lessons here for the rest of the world, especially small and developing countries, in the way these two Southeast Asian nations have handled evermore assertive China.

Indonesia has shown that even poorer nations have the capacity to shape Beijing's behavior, provided they do not naively telegraph major concessions a la Duterte. Jokowi's strategic courage and astuteness shows that not all populists are alike though they have risen to power in similarly unhappy circumstances.

@CAPRICORN-88 we will cooperate with China only where it benefits us lol.
 
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How Jokowi bested China, while Duterte ended up a lackey
Indonesia and Philippines use very different strategies in dealing with Beijing
Richard Heydarian
March 29, 2021 17:00 JST
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Despite five years of servility, China's President Xi Jinping has rewarded has Philippine counterpart Rodrigo Duterte with nothing, not even the COVID vaccines China promised to deliver by the end of 2020. © Reuters
Richard Heydarian is an Asia-based academic, columnist and author of "The Rise of Duterte: A Populist Revolt Against Elite Democracy" and the "The Indo-Pacific: Trump, China and the New Struggle for Global Mastery."
When it comes to the leaders of Southeast Asia's two largest nations Indonesia and the Philippines -- both fledgling democracies in the grip of populism -- each unhappy nation is unhappy in his own way, to paraphrase Leo Tolstoy.
On the surface, Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte and his Indonesian counterpart Joko Widodo, known as Jokowi, not only preside over two very similar nations, but are almost cut from the same cloth. Yet, the two leaders have approached their relations with China quite differently -- and with radically divergent results.

While Duterte's yearslong kowtow to China has brought him not one single big-ticket investment so far, Jokowi's more dignified and sophisticated strategy has secured optimal investment, as well as the early delivery of millions of Chinese-made COVID-19 vaccines. One batch finally arrived at the beginning of the month, and another batch last week for a total of one million shots.
The unmistakable lesson, it seems, is that China treats meek leaders such as Duterte with contempt, but will strike mutually beneficial deals with the likes of Jokowi, who has consistently refused to be intimidated by Asia's superpower. In recent years, Duterte and Jokowi, have been the face of populist politics in Southeast Asia. Both are former provincial mayors who rose to the pinnacle of power by campaigning against a corrupt establishment.
While Duterte has portrayed himself as a man of the people, Jokowi has made proactive service to ordinary citizens the centerpiece of his agenda. Both have adopted tough-on-crime policies, especially toward narcotics.
Crucially, both presidents have staked their development agenda on Chinese largesse, much to the chagrin of conservative forces who have accused them of acting as Beijing's stooges. And yet, Jokowi managed to develop a relatively fruitful relationship based on mutual respect, while Duterte has been left swinging.
While Jokowi relied on a strategy of dynamic balancing among major powers, giving him room for maneuver, Duterte tried to abandon the Philippines' century-old alliance with the U.S. as part of his pivot to China.
A foreign policy neophyte, Duterte unwittingly laid out his cards before becoming being sworn in as president in an interview with Chinese state media in early 2016. "What I need from China is help to develop my country," Duterte pleaded.
Just months later, Duterte became the first Philippine president to choose China, rather than U.S. or Japan, for his first major overseas visit. He is also the first Philippine president to refuse to even visit any major Western capital -- including Washington -- throughout his six-year term.
Convinced of Duterte's naivete, China pledged up to $24 billion in investments, including several large-scale infrastructure projects in Duterte's home of Mindanao. These empty pledges were enough to convince Duterte to forward-deploy major concessions, including the controversial decision not to assert the Philippines' historic arbitration victory against China in the South China Sea.
To Beijing's delight, Duterte even threatened to nix defense cooperation with the U.S. and share precious energy resources within the Philippines' exclusive economic zone with China. Even worse, Duterte quickly came to Beijing's defense when a suspected Chinese militia vessel almost drowned dozens of Filipino fishermen near Reed Bank in 2019.
Proudly confessing his "love" for China's leadership, Duterte has maintained the belief that one has to be "meek" in order to secure Beijing's "mercy." When pressed to stand up to Chinese incursion into Philippine waters, Duterte responded that he was "inutile", too powerless to act. After five years of strategic servility, Duterte has little to show for his pivot to Beijing, not even the large volume of free COVID vaccines China promised to deliver by the end of 2020.
Jokowi, in contrast, has visited both Washington and Beijing, as well as managing to cultivate robust security cooperation with each superpower, strengthening Indonesia's strategic leverage accordingly. When China stepped up its intrusion into Indonesian waters off the Natuna Islands in late 2019, the Indonesian president not only deployed fighter jets and the navy but personally visited the area to remind China that there would "no compromise" over maritime and territorial issues.
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Indonesia's president Joko Widodo has managed to cultivate a productive relationship with China's Xi Jinping based on trust and mutual respect. © Reuters
And despite Indonesia having no direct claim on the South China Sea, Jokowi's diplomats officially invoked the Philippines' arbitration award to question China's expansive claims, as well as openly calling out China over its alleged election interference operations.
As for foreign investment, Indonesia has actively courted not only China but rival nations such as Japan. This conscious strategy of diversification partly explains why Jakarta was able to secure extremely favorable terms, arguably the best under China's Belt and Road Initiative, for the Jakarta-Bandung high-speed railway project.
And when China slackened in fulfilling multibillion-dollar promises, Jokowi did not shy away from using Japan to get Beijing's attention. By 2019, Japan and China became Indonesia's top foreign investors, with dozens of big-ticket infrastructure projects in the pipeline, as Jokowi comfortably played the two economic giants off against each other.
There are lessons here for the rest of the world, especially small and developing countries, in the way these two Southeast Asian nations have handled evermore assertive China.
Indonesia has shown that even poorer nations have the capacity to shape Beijing's behavior, provided they do not naively telegraph major concessions a la Duterte. Jokowi's strategic courage and astuteness shows that not all populists are alike though they have risen to power in similarly unhappy circumstances.

@CAPRICORN-88 we will cooperate with China only where it benefits us lol.

Duterte is an idiot lol
 
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How Jokowi bested China, while Duterte ended up a lackey
Indonesia and Philippines use very different strategies in dealing with Beijing
Richard Heydarian
March 29, 2021 17:00 JST
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Despite five years of servility, China's President Xi Jinping has rewarded has Philippine counterpart Rodrigo Duterte with nothing, not even the COVID vaccines China promised to deliver by the end of 2020. © Reuters
Richard Heydarian is an Asia-based academic, columnist and author of "The Rise of Duterte: A Populist Revolt Against Elite Democracy" and the "The Indo-Pacific: Trump, China and the New Struggle for Global Mastery."
When it comes to the leaders of Southeast Asia's two largest nations Indonesia and the Philippines -- both fledgling democracies in the grip of populism -- each unhappy nation is unhappy in his own way, to paraphrase Leo Tolstoy.
On the surface, Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte and his Indonesian counterpart Joko Widodo, known as Jokowi, not only preside over two very similar nations, but are almost cut from the same cloth. Yet, the two leaders have approached their relations with China quite differently -- and with radically divergent results.

While Duterte's yearslong kowtow to China has brought him not one single big-ticket investment so far, Jokowi's more dignified and sophisticated strategy has secured optimal investment, as well as the early delivery of millions of Chinese-made COVID-19 vaccines. One batch finally arrived at the beginning of the month, and another batch last week for a total of one million shots.
The unmistakable lesson, it seems, is that China treats meek leaders such as Duterte with contempt, but will strike mutually beneficial deals with the likes of Jokowi, who has consistently refused to be intimidated by Asia's superpower. In recent years, Duterte and Jokowi, have been the face of populist politics in Southeast Asia. Both are former provincial mayors who rose to the pinnacle of power by campaigning against a corrupt establishment.
While Duterte has portrayed himself as a man of the people, Jokowi has made proactive service to ordinary citizens the centerpiece of his agenda. Both have adopted tough-on-crime policies, especially toward narcotics.
Crucially, both presidents have staked their development agenda on Chinese largesse, much to the chagrin of conservative forces who have accused them of acting as Beijing's stooges. And yet, Jokowi managed to develop a relatively fruitful relationship based on mutual respect, while Duterte has been left swinging.
While Jokowi relied on a strategy of dynamic balancing among major powers, giving him room for maneuver, Duterte tried to abandon the Philippines' century-old alliance with the U.S. as part of his pivot to China.
A foreign policy neophyte, Duterte unwittingly laid out his cards before becoming being sworn in as president in an interview with Chinese state media in early 2016. "What I need from China is help to develop my country," Duterte pleaded.
Just months later, Duterte became the first Philippine president to choose China, rather than U.S. or Japan, for his first major overseas visit. He is also the first Philippine president to refuse to even visit any major Western capital -- including Washington -- throughout his six-year term.
Convinced of Duterte's naivete, China pledged up to $24 billion in investments, including several large-scale infrastructure projects in Duterte's home of Mindanao. These empty pledges were enough to convince Duterte to forward-deploy major concessions, including the controversial decision not to assert the Philippines' historic arbitration victory against China in the South China Sea.
To Beijing's delight, Duterte even threatened to nix defense cooperation with the U.S. and share precious energy resources within the Philippines' exclusive economic zone with China. Even worse, Duterte quickly came to Beijing's defense when a suspected Chinese militia vessel almost drowned dozens of Filipino fishermen near Reed Bank in 2019.
Proudly confessing his "love" for China's leadership, Duterte has maintained the belief that one has to be "meek" in order to secure Beijing's "mercy." When pressed to stand up to Chinese incursion into Philippine waters, Duterte responded that he was "inutile", too powerless to act. After five years of strategic servility, Duterte has little to show for his pivot to Beijing, not even the large volume of free COVID vaccines China promised to deliver by the end of 2020.
Jokowi, in contrast, has visited both Washington and Beijing, as well as managing to cultivate robust security cooperation with each superpower, strengthening Indonesia's strategic leverage accordingly. When China stepped up its intrusion into Indonesian waters off the Natuna Islands in late 2019, the Indonesian president not only deployed fighter jets and the navy but personally visited the area to remind China that there would "no compromise" over maritime and territorial issues.
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Indonesia's president Joko Widodo has managed to cultivate a productive relationship with China's Xi Jinping based on trust and mutual respect. © Reuters
And despite Indonesia having no direct claim on the South China Sea, Jokowi's diplomats officially invoked the Philippines' arbitration award to question China's expansive claims, as well as openly calling out China over its alleged election interference operations.
As for foreign investment, Indonesia has actively courted not only China but rival nations such as Japan. This conscious strategy of diversification partly explains why Jakarta was able to secure extremely favorable terms, arguably the best under China's Belt and Road Initiative, for the Jakarta-Bandung high-speed railway project.
And when China slackened in fulfilling multibillion-dollar promises, Jokowi did not shy away from using Japan to get Beijing's attention. By 2019, Japan and China became Indonesia's top foreign investors, with dozens of big-ticket infrastructure projects in the pipeline, as Jokowi comfortably played the two economic giants off against each other.
There are lessons here for the rest of the world, especially small and developing countries, in the way these two Southeast Asian nations have handled evermore assertive China.
Indonesia has shown that even poorer nations have the capacity to shape Beijing's behavior, provided they do not naively telegraph major concessions a la Duterte. Jokowi's strategic courage and astuteness shows that not all populists are alike though they have risen to power in similarly unhappy circumstances.

@CAPRICORN-88 we will cooperate with China only where it benefits us lol.

Please make space between paragraph so people can easily read the article.

I havent read the article but I would say Indonesia is only irritated with China nine dash claim in SCS but overall Indonesia wants to have good relation with China and wants to be neutral over US-China rivalry. Recent fact showing Indonesia gov reject US demands to have permanent refuel facility in Indonesian soil prove that.
 
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Indonesia is far bigger powerhouse and also far away geographically from China than Philipines. So obvious it can handle Chinese better.

US & Japan needs to arm Indonesia to teeth to make sure Southern flank of SCS is secure. I was surprised to learn that Indonesian F-16s carry AIM-120C7s (even Pakistan Air Force does have those in its arsenal). Indonesia deployed 6 F-16s and multiple naval ships when Chinese vessels tried to fish illegally in far off Indonesian Island of Natuna's waters.

Indonesia needs to have permanent military presence in Natuna Island...fortify the Island with radars, F-16s armed with AIM-120Cs, naval ships, C4ISR infrastructure, and most imporantly---coastal batteries of anti-ship cruise missiles like Turkish ATMACA missiles to permanently secure Indonesian waters from Chinese theft.

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Indonesia's Exclusive Economic Zone on oceans is almost 700% larger than China's...even though China has much larger land area and especially population. Indonesia is so lucky Mashallah...Chinese jealousy and scorn is understandable---thats why Indonesia must invest in naval and air power along with C4ISR ecosystem to secure its waters in South China Sea and beyond.
 
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Indonesia is far bigger powerhouse and also far away geographically from China than Philipines. So obvious it can handle Chinese better.

US & Japan needs to arm Indonesia to teeth to make sure Southern flank of SCS is secure. I was surprised to learn that Indonesian F-16s carry AIM-120C7s (even Pakistan Air Force does have those in its arsenal). Indonesia deployed 6 F-16s and multiple naval ships when Chinese vessels tried to fish illegally in far off Indonesian Island of Natuna's waters.

Indonesia needs to have permanent military presence in Natuna Island...fortify the Island with radars, F-16s armed with AIM-120Cs, naval ships, C4ISR infrastructure, and most imporantly---coastal batteries of anti-ship cruise missiles like Turkish ATMACA missiles to permanently secure Indonesian waters from Chinese theft.

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Indonesia's Exclusive Economic Zone on oceans is almost 700% larger than China's...even though China has much larger land area and especially population. Indonesia is so lucky Mashallah...Chinese jealousy and scorn is understandable---thats why Indonesia must invest in naval and air power along with C4ISR ecosystem to secure its waters in South China Sea and beyond.

There is already a military base in Natuna island both for Air Force and Army. Base on the plan, Navy will also start building a base this year.
 
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I havent read the article but I would say Indonesia is only irritated with China nine dash claim in SCS but overall Indonesia wants to have good relation with China and wants to be neutral over US-China rivalry. Recent fact showing Indonesia gov reject US demands to have permanent refuel facility in Indonesian soil prove that.

none of us wants conflicts whatsoever, but it's nice to know that there's a US military assurance in the Pacific to check China's growing assertiveness. all this war scare will not happen if China sticks to int'l law instead of breaching it and bully almost all of it's immediate neighbor.
 
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Indonesia is far bigger powerhouse and also far away geographically from China than Philipines. So obvious it can handle Chinese better.

US & Japan needs to arm Indonesia to teeth to make sure Southern flank of SCS is secure. I was surprised to learn that Indonesian F-16s carry AIM-120C7s (even Pakistan Air Force does have those in its arsenal). Indonesia deployed 6 F-16s and multiple naval ships when Chinese vessels tried to fish illegally in far off Indonesian Island of Natuna's waters.

Indonesia needs to have permanent military presence in Natuna Island...fortify the Island with radars, F-16s armed with AIM-120Cs, naval ships, C4ISR infrastructure, and most imporantly---coastal batteries of anti-ship cruise missiles like Turkish ATMACA missiles to permanently secure Indonesian waters from Chinese theft.

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Indonesia's Exclusive Economic Zone on oceans is almost 700% larger than China's...even though China has much larger land area and especially population. Indonesia is so lucky Mashallah...Chinese jealousy and scorn is understandable---thats why Indonesia must invest in naval and air power along with C4ISR ecosystem to secure its waters in South China Sea and beyond.
American will never allow a Muslim majority country to be too powerful. Plus the fact, a too powerful indonesia will make Australia uneasy.
 
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American will never allow a Muslim majority country to be too powerful. Plus the fact, a too powerful indonesia will make Australia uneasy.
Lie, a strong Indonesia is needed to prevent China going further to OZ.
 
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Lie, a strong Indonesia is needed to prevent China going further to OZ.
The american knows what is limit for them to arm indonesia. End of the day, their greatest enemy is islam since they are basically a christian country and their unlimited support for jews. Crusader has never end for century literally or unlaterally. :enjoy:
 
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American will never allow a Muslim majority country to be too powerful. Plus the fact, a too powerful indonesia will make Australia uneasy.

Then China should ally with Indonesia and screw over Austrailia...which is nothing but a Western garrison on Asian shores. If China was smart, China would restrict its SCS conflict with Vietnam and Philippines only....which is the core of SCS region. But Chinese claim raise tensions with countries situated extremely South of the whole region and this allows US to get a broader foothold in the region
 
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