How is the F-16 when compared to JF-17s ?

[zheng2]

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sadly I think F16 will have a better chance to win..

 

[BoQ77]

now there're unmanned F-16

 

[MastanKhan]

Still the same engine at the end of the day.

Hi,

That is an incorrect statement---. It is like saying that just because it is an F16-=--doesn't matter if it is BLK15 or BLK60---it is the same aircraft----which is not correct.

 

[Cool_Soldier]

F 16 is a product introduced in 1980s and has gone through many blocks and maturity level over the 3 and half decades.
While JF 17 is new and just entered into second block phase with a age of less than one decade of production line.
So, still the latest version of F16 are superior to JF 17. However work is being carried out for improved version of JF 17. Hopefully, it will catch the latest tech edge of F 16 with in 5 years.

 

[MadAndFunny]

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

How is the F-16 when compared to JF-17s ?

Its same Rafale compared to Sukhoi.

 

[Hamza913]

Hi,

That is an incorrect statement---. It is like saying that just because it is an F16-=--doesn't matter if it is BLK15 or BLK60---it is the same aircraft----which is not correct.

It is correct, because they are the same aircraft. Hence why it is considered a different block, not a different aircraft.

 

[MastanKhan]

It is correct, because they are the same aircraft. Hence why it is considered a different block, not a different aircraft.

Hi,

As a 2 years old---you are a baby waddling around----as an 17 years old you can jack offf maybe 4-5 times a day----you are a teen--alomst a man---at 18 you turn to be a man legally----at 25---you are a young man---at 35 you are a man in his full bloom---at 50 you getting in the middle year---!

So---why all these transitions---you were just a little thing a few years ago---?

It is called growing up---these are the different phases of your life---. Same thing with the engines and aircraft---as they grow and develop----sometimes they hardly resemble their original form.

 

[madmusti]

It´s so funny here,there are several threads of F-16 vs JF-17, MiG-29 or Gripen NG.

The result was always the same:

 

[Hamza913]

Hi,

As a 2 years old---you are a baby waddling around----as an 17 years old you can jack offf maybe 4-5 times a day----you are a teen--alomst a man---at 18 you turn to be a man legally----at 25---you are a young man---at 35 you are a man in his full bloom---at 50 you getting in the middle year---!

So---why all these transitions---you were just a little thing a few years ago---?

It is called growing up---these are the different phases of your life---. Same thing with the engines and aircraft---as they grow and develop----sometimes they hardly resemble their original form.

And when that change becomes that drastic, it is called a different aircraft. Like the F15 strike eagle and silent eagle.

 

[zenglanmu]

Vigorous Dragon is actually the name added by the West. Just like NATO code names for the Soviet Aircraft and Missiles. In China it is called "Annihilator" or something, maybe our Chinese members can add up and clarify.



If you don't have anything constructive to add, why do you have to spam and be sarcastic?

They were discussing the missile launch warning system, maybe you could help and add to it.

The office nickname for J10 in Chinese is 猛龙(Meng Long), literally means powerfull or strong dragon. So I think Vigorous Dragon as a translation is OK for J10. Besides, Chengdu aero plant names its jetfighter by the dragon (龙) series and the first word is adj to describe the dragon. For example, JF17 is called 枭龙 (Xiao Long), where 枭 means fierce and ambitious or something. It's interesting to note in Chinese 枭龙 is a little inferior to 猛龙 which reflects that J10 is a more powerfull plane.

Don't worry, it will, thrust vectoring, mach 2 capable, BVR, all this stuff for 20 million dollars at most is a bargain, that's why we plan to get over 200 of these machines. As for china not getting it, they have different requirements, Russia didn't induct Su-30, doesn't make it a bad plane.

Money is not a big issue for China's airforce. I think the main reason PLAAF dont use JF17 is the short combat range when compared to J10 and even Su27 variations. The short combat range of JF17 is not a big issue for Pakistan. But for China where we have a large territory, the combat range matters.

 

[Av8er]

ha ha F-16 compared to J-f17 its like comparing falcon with a twiter ..

theres no comparison of F-16 with its globaly renowned success rate...!

CH2SO4 would suit you better.

 

[war&peace]

I am sure the blk 52 is alot more advanced then thunders.

Depends on which version of JF17 you compare. JF17 blk III with AESA radar is more advanced than F-16 blk 52+ without AESA radar. F-16 has and advantage in airframe for being larger than JF-17.

Don't worry, it will, thrust vectoring, mach 2 capable, BVR, all this stuff for 20 million dollars at most is a bargain, that's why we plan to get over 200 of these machines. As for china not getting it, they have different requirements, Russia didn't induct Su-30, doesn't make it a bad plane.

When and in which block...May I guess Block 4?

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

Strong rumours arise from Islamabad that PAF has finalised its decision for the JF17 targeting pod. Final verdict on the exact selection is not out, but it seems like there is one clear winner out of the many systems competing. However, this maybe bad news for Thales Democles that hedged on the Indian deal and did not consider the Pakistani market.

It is also likely that PAF did not opt for the Chinese pod as previously speculated. Many discussions from Islamabad suggest that PAF has had multiple successes in obtaining western avionics, such as the targeting pod, from sources other than the Chinese.

This is a major blow to traditional Chinese suppliers, who take the JF17 business for granted.

 

[Viper0011.]

It is correct, because they are the same aircraft. Hence why it is considered a different block, not a different aircraft.

Absolutely wrong. F-16 or F-18, etc, is an ENTIRE line of business. It includes ever changing technology, weapons, avionics and engine tech. Its like Pepsi or Coke. Just because you see a Coke, doesn't mean that it the same as a Cherry Coke, or some other beverage the Coke makes. Similarly, F-16 is a brand (like Coke, Nike, etc). Every few blocks later, it introduces an entirely new plane but with the SAME iconic and symbolic body of the F-16 (like a company's monogram). That is pure marketing to show the same look and feel to the customer so they don't think that there is a radical change in the platform. From that same standpoint, they try to standardize a few core components like engines, weapons, etc.

But pilots who flew the F-16's A, vs. CD vs. the block 52 and V and the block 60, know that these are entirely different jets all together. But put up in the SAME wrap of Falcon's every-sexy air-frame. So similarly, for the sake of reflecting little change from a marketing's standpoint and to sell advance versions, the newer blocks of Jets are introduced as Blocks (even being an entirely different plane outside of the air-frame and the cockpit layout for quick user adaptation). The term block has two meaning, one is some additional capability and the other one is introducing an entirely new aircraft yet in the same body and in similar end user layout so the users don't feel a lot of different and the fact that they may be buying a different jet altogether. If LM really wanted to, they could've put the Block 52 in a different body looking like a mini F-35 chassis without Stealth or a Delta winged type plane like they've built a few F-16 V's.

 

[war&peace]

In a word.......

Keep on banging your head that's you destiny.

, JF17 have only one version uptil now

Block II is already flying, Block III will be flying latest by 2017 and work on Block IV is also in progress..anything else?
It is always good to learn before commenting and getting embarrassed.