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How "Indigenous" is Dhruv/ALH?

You can't discuss with a indian locally manufuctured about how 100% INDIGENOUS INDIAN their stuff is.
 
I hope people remember this post next time ranting on JF17........


I have no problem with external input and calling it indigenous. I have problem with the double standards of Indians when It comes to JF17 its Pakistan buyer and China seller (as our 36 top class engineers were there to eat noodles).. When Dhruv or Bhramos its totally indegenous.

i really envy you ''your top class engineers'' only 36 of them were required to make jf17.
 
The indian contention has been totally busted, the druv has little or no indian input, except probably the beautiful indigenous paint job.:)
 
The indian contention has been totally busted, the druv has little or no indian input, except probably the beautiful indigenous paint job.:)

ok. If that makes you happy than yes its paint job only.

Actually you denial is source of motivation for us to produce everything locally.
 
The indian contention has been totally busted, the druv has little or no indian input, except probably the beautiful indigenous paint job.:)

You got to be kidding me right? I bet theres more Indian in the Dhruv then Pakistani in Al-Khalid or JF-17.
 
You got to be kidding me right? I bet theres more Indian in the Dhruv then Pakistani in Al-Khalid or JF-17.

There used to be more Indian in Su30mki than Pakistani in fc1. However I haven't followed fc-1 development lately.
 
wats the big deal guys.atleast india will mass produce a world class attack heli like lch in the coming months without any limitation on the number of units, tat too cheaply.basically wat we can say is its an owners pride n neighbrs envy.njoy
 
I'd like to thank our friends from the east that acknowledge that piece of hardware is non indigenous, it is not easy to do, and I commend you gentleman:)
 
I'd like to thank our friends from the east that acknowledge that piece of hardware is non indigenous, it is not easy to do, and I commend you gentleman:)

You should do the same for JF-17 AND AL Khalid. I bet there more Indian in Dhruv then Pakistani in both.
 
I'd like to thank our friends from the east that acknowledge that piece of hardware is non indigenous, it is not easy to do, and I commend you gentleman
Don't talk like a kid man. In todays world nobody builds something 100% but still its called indigenous. Have you heard Swedish people saying gripen is not indigenous. No, instead they will tell its 100% indigenous.
I think you have no knowledge about these things. Its better Pakistan should concentrate on building nuclear weapons, rest they should leave to Indians and Chinese.
 
The indian contention has been totally busted, the druv has little or no indian input, except probably the beautiful indigenous paint job.:)
brother,
please understand that the foreign components/help in making a product does not prevent it from being indigenous. its for the innovation,and the effort that scores.
and,
if you are so particular that alh dhruv is not an indian product,
neither is your jf-17,al-khalid.
the jf-17's looks and perfomances matches the looks and projected perfomance of IAR 95 ,an cancelled romanian project of 1980's.
Supersonic Projects
please don't rant on me that,for the above comments telling that i am an anti-.pls find my other posts too:agree:
also the babur cruise missile is similiar to the us tomahawk cruise missile,including the propulsion
again i am telling
oease don't rant at me or think that i am an anti-pak.please find my other posts too
 
Tarmak007 -- A bold blog on Indian defence: Dhruv simulator has arrived from CAE: HATSOFF

The Helicopter Academy to Train by Simulation of Flying (HATSOFF), the joint venture owned equally by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) and CAE, today announced that its simulator cockpit for the civil/conventional variant of the Dhruv has arrived at the HATSOFF training centre in Bangalore following design and manufacture at CAE’s facility in Montreal, Canada.
The Dhruv simulator cockpit will now be installed and integrated with the CAE-built full-mission simulator currently in operation at HATSOFF. The simulator features CAE's revolutionary roll-on/roll-off cockpit design, which enables cockpits representing various helicopter types to be used in the simulator. The cockpit for the civil/conventional variant of the Dhruv is the second for the HATSOFF training centre, and will be ready-for-training in May 2011. The first cockpit for the simulator represents the Bell 412 helicopter. Training for Bell 412 operators commenced in July 2010.
“This is the world’s first simulator representing the indigenously developed HAL Dhruv helicopter and we are excited to begin offering simulation-based training that will undoubtedly prove to be a safe and cost-effective method for training Dhruv helicopter aircrews,” said Wg Cdr (Retd) Chandta Datt Upadhyay Vr.C., Chief Executive Officer of HATSOFF.
The CAE-built full-mission helicopter simulator at HATSOFF and the Bell 412 cockpit was certified during 2010 to Level D, the highest qualification for flight simulators, by India’s Directorate General Civil Aviation (DGCA) and the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA). HATSOFF expects the cockpit for the civil/conventional variant of the Dhruv to be certified to Level D by the DGCA this spring. Additional cockpits for the Indian Army/Air Force variant of the HAL-built Dhruv and the Eurocopter Dauphin will be added to the HATSOFF training centre over the next year.
The HATSOFF training centre, located near HAL’s headquarters in Bangalore, also features multimedia classrooms, computer-based training, brief/debrief facilities, and a training management information system. The full-mission simulator features a common motion system, vibration platform, and visual display system, along with the four separate cockpit modules that can be used in the full-mission simulator. When a cockpit is not used in the full-mission simulator, it will be used as a fixed-based flight training device (FTD).
 

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