How Indian Troops Became the Backbone of the British Empire

[Tamil Soldier]

The first ruler was a slave who became a rule... their dynasty is called "slave dynasty" or mamluk sultanate..



There were more than 357 princely states when india was born... in 1947... deccan again was a muslim kingdom...not to forget the rule of Tipu and other local muslim kings... nobody much cared about impoverished southern states...

Deccan was a Muslim kingdom? Err- not really, Muslim stronghold over the Deccan lasted for about only a century when the Marathas defeated the Adil Shahis and became the region's strongest power. After Aurangzeb's death and subsequent end of the Maratha-Mughal war, Andhra Pradesh was the only Deccan state truly was under Muslim rule, with Hindu kingdoms maintaining independence over the majority of Karnataka and Tamil Nadu, as well as the entirety of Kerala and Maharashtra. Tipu Sultan only came to power after the British colonialism had began, and he too only ruled for roughly 15 years.

So once again, you have failed to answer my question, where is this "we ruled all of India for 1000 years" coming from? If no one cared about impoverished Southern states, why were southern conquests carried out since the end of the 13th century by the Delhi Sultanate?

 

[Koovie]

Deccan was a Muslim kingdom? Err- not really, Muslim stronghold over the Deccan lasted for about only a century when the Marathas defeated the Adil Shahis and became the region's strongest power. After Aurangzeb's death and subsequent end of the Maratha-Mughal war, Andhra Pradesh was the only Deccan state truly was under Muslim rule, with Hindu kingdoms maintaining independence over the majority of Karnataka and Tamil Nadu, as well as the entirety of Kerala and Maharashtra. Tipu Sultan only came to power after the British colonialism had began, and he too only ruled for roughly 15 years.

So once again, you have failed to answer my question, where is this "we ruled all of India for 1000 years" coming from? If no one cared about impoverished Southern states, why were southern conquests carried out since the end of the 13th century by the Delhi Sultanate?

WTF why is Kerala part of TN in you avatar ?

 

[kurup]

WTF why is Kerala part of TN in you avatar ?

Must be probably the terittory under RAJARAJA CHOLAN empire

 

[Hello_10]

most of you have problem that you haven't done primary education from India and remain part of right and wrong publicity. and this way we always find having talks starting from primary level......... first read about SATI as below:

now compare these murders with the total population of India, it is still far less than usual murders in a today's developing country per 450mil population, as of India in 1820. and here, it was also estimated that these murders were less than 10% in other parts of the country, and was mainly based in Bengal...

it was because SATI isn't part of Hinduism, , even the top most lord of Hindu, Ram, was against cast system. all these SATI or Cast was made by powerful people only, to feed their human mentalities to remain on top on the basis of race, which was 'social' practice not religious . (like how white Christians usually discriminated with christian blacks till mid 20th century.) Marathas never allowed SATi except few cases which were not known, like how the numbers were very less in Maratha's state of India who controlled 80% Indian areas that time........

and about the women, British always used to share their women with Indian freedom 'Leaders' like how Nehru has his blood in British royal family. British always controlled the big mobs by pleasing those who led those mobs. have a look on pakistan itself, British always defend the pakistani rulers and their families in Britain but they dont want Pakistanis/Bangladeshis to go there anymore......

A local indication of the numbers is given in the records kept by the Bengal Presidency of the British East India Company. The total figure of known occurrences for the period 1813 to 1828 is 8,135; another source gives a comparable number of 7,941 from 1815 to 1828, thus giving an average of about 507 to 567 documented incidents per year in that period. Raja Ram Mohan Roy estimated that there were ten times as many cases of Sati in Bengal compared to the rest of the country.[41][42] Bentinck, in his 1829 report, states that 420 occurrences took place in one (unspecified) year in the 'Lower Provinces' of Bengal, Bihar and Orissa, and 44 in the 'Upper Provinces' (the upper Gangetic plain).[43]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)#Numbers

it is interesting that during the peak of Sati Pratha, the total number comes around 550 per 450mil population of India, means around 1.25 murders per 1mil Indian population per year during the peak 20 years of that Pratha. while in the financial capital of Pakistan, Karachi of 8mil population, at least over 5000 people were killed during last 5 years, (mostly target killings), means the average of 125 per 1mil population per year, 100 times more murders......

 

[Hasbara Buster]

What is totally fascinating is that they still love to lick British boots after all the suffering inflicted on India by their white masters they love so much.

 

[Joe Shearer]

What is totally fascinating is that they still love to lick British boots after all the suffering inflicted on India by their white masters they love so much.

If by that you mean we should hate the British, that is your way of looking at it. We have come to terms with it, and meet them now on terms of equality. There is always a small percentage of people who feel intimidated on meeting people from a materially superior culture, but there is no country-wide feeling of being inferior to them. Not after driving them out after a long struggle.

 

[Grand-Vizier]

If by that you mean we should hate the British, that is your way of looking at it. We have come to terms with it, and meet them now on terms of equality. There is always a small percentage of people who feel intimidated on meeting people from a materially superior culture, but there is no country-wide feeling of being inferior to them. Not after driving them out after a long struggle.

hi can you explain what you meant there i didnt understand properly.

 

[Joe Shearer]

hi can you explain what you meant there i didnt understand properly.

Some poor Indians who go to the UK to visit or to study or to settle down may feel that they are inferior, when they see so much wealth, such rich shops, big roads, thousands of cars and the general air of prosperity and wealth that prevails in a rich country.

That will happen to some who go to the UK.

For those Indians who meet the British in their own country, in their own environment, do not have that feeling. The. Country itself does not have that feeling. Only a few farmers who went to Britain may feel inferior. Nobody else.

 

[Hello_10]

Some poor Indians who go to the UK to visit or to study or to settle down may feel that they are inferior, when they see so much wealth, such rich shops, big roads, thousands of cars and the general air of prosperity and wealth that prevails in a rich country.

That will happen to some who go to the UK.

For those Indians who meet the British in their own country, in their own environment, do not have that feeling. The. Country itself does not have that feeling. Only a few farmers who went to Britain may feel inferior. Nobody else.

go through this thread once

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...n-indian-two-ruler-class-richest-britain.html

=> one more thread to get an idea of local British, how much they themselves are willing to live in UK (read all the posts)

http://www.defence.pk/forums/econom...-data-suggest-uk-net-remittance-receiver.html

=> and one more thread to get to know, how long these poor Indians would stay in US/UK.....

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...s-us-return-home-india-china-gain-revers.html

hi can you explain what you meant there i didnt understand properly.

he lives in Kolkatta so he knows only what he see in hollywood movies and then he comes to the local streets and see how people sleep on the streets in India .
but if he wants even student visa of a Western country like US/UK/Australia/Canada etc, he will need to show over $100,000 'liquid money', at least, which he won't have in his pocket, to get to know what type of people (indian or turkish) go to Western countries

 

[Joe Shearer]

go through this thread once

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...n-indian-two-ruler-class-richest-britain.html

=> one more thread to get an idea of local British, how much they themselves are willing to live in UK (read all the posts)

http://www.defence.pk/forums/econom...-data-suggest-uk-net-remittance-receiver.html

=> and one more thread to get to know, how long these poor Indians would stay in US/UK.....

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...s-us-return-home-india-china-gain-revers.html




he lives in Kolkatta so he knows only what he see in hollywood movies and then he comes to the local streets and see how people sleep on the streets in India .
but if he wants even student visa of a Western country like US/UK/Australia/Canada etc, he will need to show over $100,000 'liquid money', at least, which he won't have in his pocket, to get to know what type of people (indian or turkish) go to Western countries

Once you come down from the Milky Way, you might get some idea about the real world. Thankfully, you have given up your extraordinary sexual fantasy about the women of British royalty having been used to bait Indian leaders into cooperation with Britain.

Check with the Pakistani and Bangladeshi members of this forum what the social origins of the bulk of emigrants were. From India, the bulk were from the Punjab, none of them the $100,000 in liquid cash kind. Another variety of Indian fled from Uganda when things became very difficult over there, and they too were people of modest circumstances.

I wish you would stop speculating such bizarre things and get a grip on yourself, first, and then on reality.

By the way, I have been living in Kolkata for a few months now. Earlier, apart from spending a year and a half in Hungary, most of my professional career has been spent in the UK, France and Germany, as well as Kuwait, China and Japan. That's about 34 years, with thirteen years at the end at an intense pace.

No doubt you have something similar to display, as you are so confident about the state of things all over the world?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

he lives in Kolkatta so he knows only what he see in hollywood movies and then he comes to the local streets and see how people sleep on the streets in India .
but if he wants even student visa of a Western country like US/UK/Australia/Canada etc, he will need to show over $100,000 'liquid money', at least, which he won't have in his pocket, to get to know what type of people (indian or turkish) go to Western countries

If Joe has so much knowledge from Hollywood, then i must be watching the wrong movies.

 

[toxic_pus]

...your extraordinary sexual fantasy about the women of British royalty having been used to bait Indian leaders into cooperation with Britain.

That was an epic...

...moment.

 

[Hello_10]

Once you come down from the Milky Way, you might get some idea about the real world.

Thankfully, you have given up your extraordinary sexual fantasy about the women of British royalty having been used to bait Indian leaders into cooperation with Britain.

Check with the Pakistani and Bangladeshi members of this forum what the social origins of the bulk of emigrants were. From India, the bulk were from the Punjab, none of them the $100,000 in liquid cash kind. Another variety of Indian fled from Uganda when things became very difficult over there, and they too were people of modest circumstances.

I wish you would stop speculating such bizarre things and get a grip on yourself, first, and then on reality.

By the way, I have been living in Kolkata for a few months now. Earlier, apart from spending a year and a half in Hungary, most of my professional career has been spent in the UK, France and Germany, as well as Kuwait, China and Japan. That's about 34 years, with thirteen years at the end at an intense pace.

No doubt you have something similar to display, as you are so confident about the state of things all over the world?

Joe, I have Master of Engineering degree from the university ranked 22 in world right now among the '5 Star Labeled' Tech Institutes in QS Global ranking, which is the most expansive Tech Institute of Sydney, the only city university of Sydney while living in its hostel located in city itself. no tech institute of India/China even has '5 Star Label', so you may not understand the level of that university. you might have worked on few projects in few countries while I lived in Australia for over 10 years, have visa of over 12 western nations on my Australian passport...... (with part time MBA in project management as an Australian citizen from university of Sydney also.)

thats the fantasy you are talking about while how many have passed through till now on my side, isn't on counting. it may be because, having a passport of developing countries, might have made a big difference. and being citizen of the same western nation, does make a difference, for the British/Australian women we had. i guess, so you still find it a fantasy after travelling the whole world while its countless on this side......

the professionals of India earn 'twice' to the locals in US/UK/Australia/Canada type countries, do you know? you dont, as you might have worked on the Indian salary while being posted overseas. get an idea as below. the girls we had knew, we may spend much more than what they may expect from local white labors.......

income of India-born immigrants was around $94,700. In comparison, the median household income of native-born Americans was estimated at $51,750

Dollars and sense of American desis | DAWN.COM

you dont know about the 'liquid money' as you never got a student visa type things from your own pocket. no less than $100,000+ is required for that, even for 2 years of student visa of US/UK/Australia/Canada and I was responding your comment about the students living in western countries........

and hence, after travelling the whole world on Indian Salary, you still find it a 'fantasy' to have $100,000 in your pocket. a simple thinking of a 'Lower' Middle Class of India, who still doesn't know how much you need to have to get student visa of western countries

 

[Joe Shearer]

Joe, I have Master of Engineering degree from the university ranked 22 in world right now among the '5 Star Labeled' Tech Institutes in QS Global ranking, which is the most expansive Tech Institute of Sydney, the only city university of Sydney while living in its hostel located in city itself. no tech institute of India/China even has '5 Star Label', so you may not understand the level of that university. you might have worked on few projects in few countries while I lived in Australia for over 10 years, have visa of over 12 western nations on my Australian passport...... (with part time MBA in project management as an Australian citizen from university of Sydney also.)

thats the fantasy you are talking about while how many have passed through till now on my side, isn't on counting. it may be because, having a passport of developing countries, might have made a big difference. and being citizen of the same western nation, does make a difference, for the British/Australian women we had. i guess, so you still find it a fantasy after travelling the whole world while its countless on this side......

the professionals of India earn 'twice' to the locals in US/UK/Australia/Canada type countries, do you know? you dont, as you might have worked on the Indian salary while being posted overseas. get an idea as below. the girls we had knew, we may spend much more than what they may expect from local white labors.......



you dont know about the 'liquid money' as you never got a student visa type things from your own pocket. no less than $100,000+ is required for that, even for 2 years of student visa of US/UK/Australia/Canada and I was responding your comment about the students living in western countries........

and hence, after travelling the whole world on Indian Salary, you still find it a 'fantasy' to have $100,000 in your pocket. a simple thinking of a 'Lower' Middle Class of India, who still doesn't know how much you need to have to get student visa of western countries

You simpleton, I educated a daughter at SOAS and at Emory.

Please go away and play with yourself, and stop blethering. You have no idea what assignments I have taken up and executed, and what pay I drew.

A bonus bit of information for you: your personal spending power, and the girls it gets you, doesn't give you brains, knowledge or information. Not when you come out with gems like your royalty as honey traps bit. You could be a Princeton physics grad., with that brain fart, you would still be a gas-bag beyond redemption. You aren't Princeton, but you are the rest.

 

[Hello_10]

You simpleton, I educated a daughter at SOAS and at Emory.

Please go away and play with yourself, and stop blethering. You have no idea what assignments I have taken up and executed, and what pay I drew.

A bonus bit of information for you: your personal spending power, and the girls it gets you, doesn't give you brains, knowledge or information. Not when you come out with gems like your royalty as honey traps bit. You could be a Princeton physics grad., with that brain fart, you would still be a gas-bag beyond redemption. You aren't Princeton, but you are the rest.

bye bye. now talk to others thanks.......