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Here is one of the largest Unknown Historical fact about Buddhism.

The Bones of Buddha were found in Piprahwa, UP,India.

The casket was discovered in the year 1898 by William Claxton Peppe at Piprahwa, Basti, UP, India.

William Claxton Peppe was a British colonial engineer and landowner of an estate at Piprahwa. In January 1898. Following the severe famine that decimated Northern India in 1897, Peppe led a team in excavating a large earthen mound on his land. Having cleared away scrub and jungle, they set to work building a deep trench through the mound. After digging through 18 feet of solid brickwork, they came to a large stone coffer which contained five small vases containing bone fragments, ashes and jewels.

THIS is what they found,

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The casket found was inscribed in Mauryan Brahmi script and it reads,

'सुकितिभतिनं सभागिनिकं सपुतदलं यम सलिलनिधेन बुधसा भगवते सकियानम्'.

Sukiti-bhatinaṃ sabhaginikanam sa-puta-dalanam iyaṃ salila-nidhane Budhasa bhagavate sakiyanam.


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Now , salilanidhane Budhasa Bhagavate means "Relics of the Buddha Lord"

Experts of those age, Vincent Smith, William Hoey, Thomas Rhys Davids and Emile Senart all translated the inscription to confirm that these were relics of the Buddha.

The translation reads,

"This relic-shrine of divine Buddha (is the donation) of the Sakya-Sukiti brothers, associated with their sisters, sons, and wives "


In 1905 John Fleet, a former epigraphist of the Government of India, published a translation that agreed with this interpretation.

However, on assuming the role of Secretary of the Royal Asiatic Society from Thomas Rhys Davids, Fleet proposed a different reading: He claimed the translation was,

"This is a deposit of relics of the brethen of Sukiti, kinsmen of Buddha the Blessed One, with their sisters, their children and wives."
:cheesy:

This interpretation was firmly rejected by his contemporaries; following such criticism Fleet wrote: "I now abandon my opinion". Epigraphists of the time subscribed instead to the translation by Auguste Barth:

"This receptacle of relics of the blessed Buddha of the Śākyas (is the pious gift) of the brothers of Sukīrti, jointly with their sisters, with their sons and their wives."

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Prof Harry Falk, expert on ancient Indian languages and the Indian historian, Charles Allen, discussed the authenticity of the inscription. Harry concludes that this urn did contain the ashes of the Buddha. You can find this conclusion in this National Geographic documentry.



In 1971, KM Srivastava if ASI-SI excavated Piprahwa extensively and found Kapilvastu.

But Government of India, instead of calling it as The Discovery of Kapilavastu, declared this as excavation of Piprahwa.

You can find the details here,

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.532810/page/n527/mode/2up?q=Piprahwa


There was even an NYT article about it in 1973.

https://www.nytimes.com/1976/05/23/... north Indian,ancient lost city of Kapilvastu

Indian Government archeological team says it believes it has found a part of Gautama Buddha's “corporeal relics'—bits of charred bones and ashes. —buried in a north Indian villave.

K. M. Srivastava, supcrintendent of the Archeological Survey of India, said excavations begun in 1971 had uncovered relics that lead experts to agree that Piprahwa, a tiny village in Uttar Pradesh, is the site of the ancient lost city of Kapilvastu.

The most important find was a soapstone casket, discovered in 1973, with an inscription on the lid certifying that it contained part of the mortal remains of Prince Siddhartha, who became Gautama Buddha, founder of Buddhism.

archeological team found two burned brick chambers, in which “were enshrined the ccrporeal relics of the Buddha,”Mr. Srivastava said.

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The main stupa at Piprahwa, one of the earliest so far discovered in India, was built in three phases. First was around the time of the death of the Buddha, it was raised by piling up natural earth from the surrounding area. This was in accordance with a request of the Buddha who had asked that he be buried under earth "heaped up as rice is heaped in an alms bowl."

Second was during the rule of Emperor Ashoka, who opened up the original stupas containing the relics of the Buddha then restored the stupa and interred a portion of what he had taken. The remaining relics were distributed to other new stupas. At Piprahwa the restoration consisted of filling thick clay over the structure and of building two tiers to reach a height of 4.55m.

In Third phase was during the Kushan period, the stupa was extensively enlarged and reached a height of 6.35 metres (20.8 ft). The largest structure after the stupa is the Eastern Monastery that measures 45.11m x 41.14m with a courtyard and more than thirty cells around it. The complex includes an additional Southern Monastery, Western Monastery and Northern Monastery.

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Today sadly we consider Tilaura Kot in Nepal as Kapilavastu. If this truth was to come out, Nepal will loose big time on Buddhist tourism and the claim that Buddha was from Nepal.

Lakhs of tourists visit "Kapilvastu" of Nepal as Budha spent 29 years of his life in Kapilavastu. Declaring Piprawah as Budha's Burial Place may turn out economic disaster for Nepal.





 
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K. M. Srivastava, supcrintendent of the Archeological Survey of India, said excavations begun in 1971 had uncovered relics that lead experts to agree that Piprahwa, a tiny village in Uttar Pradesh, is the site of the ancient lost city of Kapilvastu.

The most important find was a soapstone casket, discovered in 1973, with an inscription on the lid certifying that it contained part of the mortal remains of Prince Siddhartha, who became Gautama Buddha, founder of Buddhism.

This is very interesting as this casket has been considered to date from the period of Buddha himself (545 or 485 BC, i prefer traditional buddhist date of 545), this means that this indeed proves literacy of India during the perid of Buddha and Brahmi script was not because of persian contacts as this must date earlier than that.

regards

Now , salilanidhane Budhasa Bhagavate

reminds me of Barli inscription, Viraya Bhagavate chaturasiti vase

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barli_Inscription
 
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Buddhism originated from the Zhangzhungs in Tibet, before spreading to nepal- n then india

This is why Mt Kailash is a holy place for them
 
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This is very interesting as this casket has been considered to date from the period of Buddha himself (545 or 485 BC, i prefer traditional buddhist date of 545), this means that this indeed proves literacy of India during the perid of Buddha and Brahmi script was not because of persian contacts as this must date earlier than that.

regards



reminds me of Barli inscription, Viraya Bhagavate chaturasiti vase

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barli_Inscription

The dating on the casket was not done scientifically. It was PURE ASSUMPTION based on preconceived timelines and prejudices.

They assumed that since the writing on the casket was in Mauryan Brahmi script and was crude, they ASSUMED it was 500 BC or about. And then that lie was propagated as is usual with historical narratives.

Its just one lie built on top of another and if one lie is exposed, the entire timeline and structure collapses. And no "historian" wants that.
 
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Buddhism originated from the Zhangzhungs in Tibet, before spreading to nepal- n then india

This is why Mt Kailash is a holy place for them

Currently Tilaurakot in Nepal is considered Kapila Vaastu or birth place of Buddha for political reasons. It provides foreign tourists to Nepal based on a lie.

Archaeological digs in Tilaurakot Yielded NOTHING of any antiquity.

But Archaeological digs at Pirprahwa uncovered 40 seals.

Most of the sealings found at the site were round with few being oval. Each Sealing had one of the following embossed on a side.

1.”Om Devaputra Vihare Kapilavastu Bhikkhusamghasa.”

(The term Devaputra means Son of Gods, but was a title given to themselves by Kushan Kings like Kanishka or Huvishka. The legend therefore can be read as:)

Om of the community of monks of Kapilavastu in the monastery of Kanishka or Huvishka”

2.”Maha Kapilavastu Bhikshusamghasa”

Which means

Of the community of Buddhist monks of great Kapilavastu”

3.“ Sarandasasa.” (The third group carry the names of monks)

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So the evidence that show Pirprahwa as ancient Kapilavaastu is pretty conclusive.


After more excavations ASI was also able to find two massive burnt brick structural complexes, with impressive projected entrances to the east and many other structures. In a nearby site at in Ganwaria, even more burnt brick structures were found. There was a surprise silence of about three years, before Archeological survey of India finally announced, much to the heartburn of their Nepali counterparts, that the real Kapilavastu has been found. Srivastava says this, in his report, quite unequivocally and I quote:

The proximity of these structures to the ancient site of Piprawha, where the sealings with the name of Kapilavastu were found, their impressive size and constructional features and the large quantity of antiquities found within them, leave little doubt that the structures formed the residential complex of the chief of the capital town, Kapilavastu, i.e., the Sakya King Suddhodhana and his predecessors.”



Piprahwa+stupa+and+Buddhist+monastery+ruins.jpg



This was the stone Coffer in which the relics was found.

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The dating on the casket was not done scientifically. It was PURE ASSUMPTION based on preconceived timelines and prejudices.

They assumed that since the writing on the casket was in Mauryan Brahmi script and was crude, they ASSUMED it was 500 BC or about. And then that lie was propagated as is usual with historical narratives.

Its just one lie built on top of another and if one lie is exposed, the entire timeline and structure collapses. And no "historian" wants that.

i just read the report, what you stated in your post in wrong, the ''lid with inscription'' belonged to the Kushan period, there was no inscription on a buddha period casket.

regards
 
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i just read the report, what you stated in your post in wrong, the ''lid with inscription'' belonged to the Kushan period, there was no inscription on a buddha period casket.

regards

Sorry, I meant the inscription seen on the Soapstone urn. Not casket.

I have provided the picture of the same.

BTW here are pictures of some of the items (gold, precious stones, valuable trinkets etc.) found along with the relics.

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This is very interesting as this casket has been considered to date from the period of Buddha himself (545 or 485 BC, i prefer traditional buddhist date of 545), this means that this indeed proves literacy of India during the perid of Buddha and Brahmi script was not because of persian contacts as this must date earlier than that.
Hmm, it's totally not like you to take one piece of false conjecture and use it to formulate further false conjecture... and even if you did do that, it certainly wouldn't be to serve an agenda.

Sorry for being so facetious.
 
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Here is one of the largest Unknown Historical fact about Buddhism.

The Bones of Buddha were found in Piprahwa, UP,India.

The casket was discovered in the year 1898 by William Claxton Peppe at Piprahwa, Basti, UP, India.

William Claxton Peppe was a British colonial engineer and landowner of an estate at Piprahwa. In January 1898. Following the severe famine that decimated Northern India in 1897, Peppe led a team in excavating a large earthen mound on his land. Having cleared away scrub and jungle, they set to work building a deep trench through the mound. After digging through 18 feet of solid brickwork, they came to a large stone coffer which contained five small vases containing bone fragments, ashes and jewels.

THIS is what they found,

im_kol-19737A-B-10420_01_h.jpg


The casket found was inscribed in Mauryan Brahmi script and it reads,

'सुकितिभतिनं सभागिनिकं सपुतदलं यम सलिलनिधेन बुधसा भगवते सकियानम्'.

Sukiti-bhatinaṃ sabhaginikanam sa-puta-dalanam iyaṃ salila-nidhane Budhasa bhagavate sakiyanam.


Ecke9joXsAEkqJo



Now , salilanidhane Budhasa Bhagavate means "Relics of the Buddha Lord"

Experts of those age, Vincent Smith, William Hoey, Thomas Rhys Davids and Emile Senart all translated the inscription to confirm that these were relics of the Buddha.

The translation reads,

"This relic-shrine of divine Buddha (is the donation) of the Sakya-Sukiti brothers, associated with their sisters, sons, and wives "


In 1905 John Fleet, a former epigraphist of the Government of India, published a translation that agreed with this interpretation.

However, on assuming the role of Secretary of the Royal Asiatic Society from Thomas Rhys Davids, Fleet proposed a different reading: He claimed the translation was,

"This is a deposit of relics of the brethen of Sukiti, kinsmen of Buddha the Blessed One, with their sisters, their children and wives."
:cheesy:

This interpretation was firmly rejected by his contemporaries; following such criticism Fleet wrote: "I now abandon my opinion". Epigraphists of the time subscribed instead to the translation by Auguste Barth:

"This receptacle of relics of the blessed Buddha of the Śākyas (is the pious gift) of the brothers of Sukīrti, jointly with their sisters, with their sons and their wives."

EckDHf3WoAAy2H8


Prof Harry Falk, expert on ancient Indian languages and the Indian historian, Charles Allen, discussed the authenticity of the inscription. Harry concludes that this urn did contain the ashes of the Buddha. You can find this conclusion in this National Geographic documentry.



In 1971, KM Srivastava if ASI-SI excavated Piprahwa extensively and found Kapilvastu.

But Government of India, instead of calling it as The Discovery of Kapilavastu, declared this as excavation of Piprahwa.

You can find the details here,

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.532810/page/n527/mode/2up?q=Piprahwa


There was even an NYT article about it in 1973.

https://www.nytimes.com/1976/05/23/archives/buddha-relics-find-is-reported-in-india.html#:~:text=—buried in a north Indian,ancient lost city of Kapilvastu

Indian Government archeological team says it believes it has found a part of Gautama Buddha's “corporeal relics'—bits of charred bones and ashes. —buried in a north Indian villave.

K. M. Srivastava, supcrintendent of the Archeological Survey of India, said excavations begun in 1971 had uncovered relics that lead experts to agree that Piprahwa, a tiny village in Uttar Pradesh, is the site of the ancient lost city of Kapilvastu.

The most important find was a soapstone casket, discovered in 1973, with an inscription on the lid certifying that it contained part of the mortal remains of Prince Siddhartha, who became Gautama Buddha, founder of Buddhism.

archeological team found two burned brick chambers, in which “were enshrined the ccrporeal relics of the Buddha,”Mr. Srivastava said.

EcksZyFXoAEBkFL



The main stupa at Piprahwa, one of the earliest so far discovered in India, was built in three phases. First was around the time of the death of the Buddha, it was raised by piling up natural earth from the surrounding area. This was in accordance with a request of the Buddha who had asked that he be buried under earth "heaped up as rice is heaped in an alms bowl."

Second was during the rule of Emperor Ashoka, who opened up the original stupas containing the relics of the Buddha then restored the stupa and interred a portion of what he had taken. The remaining relics were distributed to other new stupas. At Piprahwa the restoration consisted of filling thick clay over the structure and of building two tiers to reach a height of 4.55m.

In Third phase was during the Kushan period, the stupa was extensively enlarged and reached a height of 6.35 metres (20.8 ft). The largest structure after the stupa is the Eastern Monastery that measures 45.11m x 41.14m with a courtyard and more than thirty cells around it. The complex includes an additional Southern Monastery, Western Monastery and Northern Monastery.

EcksVctXgAE-Vx_



Today sadly we consider Tilaura Kot in Nepal as Kapilavastu. If this truth was to come out, Nepal will loose big time on Buddhist tourism and the claim that Buddha was from Nepal.

Lakhs of tourists visit "Kapilvastu" of Nepal as Budha spent 29 years of his life in Kapilavastu. Declaring Piprawah as Budha's Burial Place may turn out economic disaster for Nepal.
India and Hindus cannot be entrusted with any relics of Lord Buddha. Better hand over the holy relic to Buddhist countries like Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Cambodia or India's allied state which is Bhutan.
 
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India and Hindus cannot be entrusted with any relics of Lord Buddha. Better hand over the holy relic to Buddhist countries like Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Cambodia or India's allied state which is Bhutan.

Put in a request, we will get back to you.
 
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Buddhism originated from the Zhangzhungs in Tibet, before spreading to nepal- n then india

This is why Mt Kailash is a holy place for them
Mount Kailash is not a holy place for Buddhist this is BS. Some Vajrayana Buddhists considers Mt. kailash as holy that's it.

Buddhism originated in Indian subcontinent but it's not confirmed whether Kapilavastu is in Nepal or not.
 
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Mount Kailash is not a holy place for Buddhist this is BS. Some Vajrayana Buddhists considers Mt. kailash as holy that's it.

Buddhism originated in Indian subcontinent but it's not confirmed whether Kapilavastu is in Nepal or not.

Archaeological evidence pretty much confirms Kapilavaastu was in India.

Nepal just renamed Tilaura Kot as Kapilavastu in 1971 to strengthen its bogus claim. :lol:

The only archaeological evidence is that Lumbini is in Nepal and that was the birth place of Buddha. Buddha’s mother ‘Mahamaya’ was travelling in state from Kapilavastu to Devadaha, her parent’s home, to have her first child. On her way, the queen gave birth to a divine son in her tent in the Lumbini grove.

This is known because Emperor Asoka made a pilgrimage to Lumbini and To mark his visit there, Emperor Asoka put up a sandstone pillar with an inscription.

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Prince Siddhartha grew up in kapilavaastu and at the age of 29, he left his hometown Kapilvastu in search of truth and attained enlightenment as Buddha. He never returned again to live in Kapilvastu.

After the death of King Suddhodhana, a gradual decline took place in the kingdom with city of Kapilvastu being left utterly desolate and forsaken for a long time. It lapsed into oblivion and was ruined beyond recognition.

Since the location of Lumbini is known, ruins of Kapilavastu have to be in the vicinity.


This is how chinese traveller Fa-Hsien (399 AD) describes Kapilavastu

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Less than a yojana to the east from this brought them to the city of Kapilavastu; but in it there was neither king nor people. All was mound and desolation. Of inhabitants there were only some monks and a score or two of families of the common people. At the spot where stood the old palace of King Suddhodhana there have been made images of the prince ( Goutam Buddha) and his mother; and at the places where that son appeared mounted on a white elephant when he entered his mother’s womb, and where he turned his carriage round on seeing the sick man after he had gone out of the city by the eastern gate, topes (Stupa) have been erected.
Fifty le (approximately 9 miles) east from the city was a garden, named Lumbini


Now, Piprahwa is approximately 10 miles from Lumbini.


Chinese traveler Xuen Zang has described all the places connected to Buddha’s life story in Kapilvastu, extensively,

" Outside the south gate of the city, on the left of the road, is a stupa ; it was here the royal prince contended with the Sakyas in athletic sports (arts) and pierced with his arrows the iron targets. From this 30 li (5.4 miles) south-east is a small stupa. Here there is a fountain, the waters of which are as clear as a

mirror. Common tradition has called this the arrow fountain (Sarakupa). To the north-east of the arrow well about 80 or 90 li, (16.2 miles) we come to the Lumbini garden.”


Putting together all this data, we get THIS

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When you put together the Archaeological evidence discovered in Piprahwa and the geographical description and distance given in historic records, we can conclusively conclude that Piprahwa was the ancient Kapilavaastu.
 
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