How india Benefited

[Ayush]

Interesting. ..especially the whole lake thing....

 

[tvsram1992]

How does that send a strong message?

manmohan sent an sms to china with content as "strong"

 

[Matrixx]

Misadventure by China...similar what Pakistan did in Kargil

 

[xTra]

No need to talk big, both countries played their card sensibly, lets move on.

 

[ExtraOdinary]

isro you beauty . I like the way you troll boy.

 

[J-30]

its was the most stupid move china played that backfired and brought many benefiting result for india that will help india in future.... China went ahead without thinking of future. They live in past and present and dont care about future. This is the reason china not got any better future. Its risky living in china for many reason.... One of them is china got plenty of enemy and its not safe if u are citizen of china as its biggest enemy is super power america and world 2nd largest population and regional super power india including strong economy and technology hub japan.... China provoked india by sending few chinese cheerleaders who were holding red ribbon in which it was written this is chinese land.... They brough cute sniffer puppys with them so they wont get bored. india replied by building 12 tents 300 meters facing chinese tents. india construct this 12 tents as a protest and warning to china. than china phoned india and told if u remove those tents than we will remove ours.... india replied back and said no we wont until u remove urs first as you the one who builded it first.... China said please stop the construction as we are threatned by ur construction.... india said no we wont. China again said atleast go slow please? India (in giggling voice replied) yeah sure why not.... Now when chinese cheerleaders wrote this is chinese land than why did they left after india warned them by saying remove tents or khurshid visit will be cancel and than its action time by 3 major powers (india usa japan).... Why did those chinese cheerleaders left by holding red ribbon in one hand and sniffer puppys in other hand? Why did they entered no mans land and left humiliated? Now what this idiotic move gained india? It made mighty india wake up.... Now u will see many changes like buying weapons, testing, producing etc etc all will be speed up. When india buys a weapon it takes 3 years to choose. 3 years to induct and if middleman caught than 10years delay.... This will change now. india will totaly focus on indo-china border. india has woken up. Already two test of Agni-5 this year (two test back to back of Mighty missile never happened before).... arihant went critical mode and many more will be inducted. Rafale will come to india before 3 years for sure now as it china centric.... this incident will make india go even more strong.... Btw the hongwu and psypo or whatever this paid ones are learned a lession that having a cheap short is easy but thinking of future always has upper hand. Also i hope pakistanis have learned here that shooting enemy not the answer. India would had shot that innocent chinese cheerleaders and beheaded them but that would had been cowardly act and a shame on entire india.... india warned china and it played off well. in kargil india warned pakistan but pakistan didnt listen and than world saw war and india came out victorius.... My request to all people here do not entertain hongwu and pyspo or whatever his user name. They just a kids who saw chinese cheerleaders armed division in their dreams. Remember my brothers that replying them is like wrestling pig in mud.... You will get dirty while they will enjoy.... Thank you....

source please?

 

[SR-91]

Please use paragraphs. Your posts are hard on the eyes.

I understand your point but this isnt a essay writing competition.He brain-stormed this thoughts and put his feelings in there.Jus saying

 

[Nisha]

Before the Indian posters go apeshit about China moving its troops, plz think! China does not plan haphazardly. They have the resources and utlize their manpower very efficiently. This was a planned operation but what we should figure out were the Chinese objectives. Sure, China has done this before but not this time it was different. Why specifically Chumar? Ok sure we can see the troop movements but what's the big deal? Do the Chinese share any land border with Pakistan in that area?

 

[Spring Onion]

Before the Indian posters go apeshit about China moving its troops, plz think! China does not plan haphazardly. They have the resources and utlize their manpower very efficiently. This was a planned operation but what we should figure out were the Chinese objectives. Sure, China has done this before but not this time it was different. Why specifically Chumar? Ok sure we can see the troop movements but what's the big deal? Do the Chinese share any land border with Pakistan in that area?

Making sense of the Depsang incursion
China’s new activism on the border dispute provides an opportunity to take stalled negotiations forward

The People’s Liberation Army’s decision to dismantle its encampment on the Depsang plain abutting Aksai Chin makes it a bit easier to assess the motivation and goals of recent Chinese actions.



If the Chinese action on the ground on the Depsang plain, initiated on April 15, is taken in conjunction with President Xi Jinping’s March 29 statement in Durban that the border issue should be resolved “as soon as possible”, we can conclude that China is signalling a new activism in its border dispute with India. This also becomes evident through Beijing’s official statements of the past two weeks that accompanied their three week-long non-threatening, but provocative, military action.



China steadfastly refused to acknowledge that its forces had in any way breached the Line of Actual Control (LAC) but agreed that the issue could be resolved through diplomacy and negotiations. “The two sides are in communication through the working mechanism for consultation and coordination on boundary affairs… for a solution to the incident…” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying told reporters last Friday.



She added that both countries were “committed to resolving disputes, including the boundary ones, through peaceful negotiations and [to] try to ensure that this kind of dispute will not affect the development of the bilateral relations”.



The Chinese action needs to be viewed at two levels. The first is an established pattern where the PLA keeps nibbling at Indian territory to create new “facts on the ground” or a “new normal” in relation to their claimed LAC. They do this, as they have done in the past — occupy an area, then assert that it has always been part of their territory, and offer to negotiate. In this very sector, Chinese claim lines have been varying since 1956. At that time, for example, the entire Chip Chap and Galwan river valleys were accepted by China as being Indian territory. But in 1960 China insisted that these areas were within their claim line and occupied them following the 1962 war. The April 2013 Depsang encampment seemed to be pushing even further westward.



The fact that the border is neither demarcated nor inhabited, and there is no agreement on the alignment of the LAC in many areas, aids this process. We need to keep a sharp watch in the coming months to see if this pattern is repeated in other areas where there are differing perceptions as to the LAC’s location.



Indian build-up



At another level, China appears to be expressing its unhappiness over the Indian military build up on the Sino-Indian border. In the past five years, India has activated forward airfields in the Ladakh sector, completed important road building projects in the Chumar sector, begun work on the road to link Daulat Beg Oldi with Leh, and moved high-performance fighter aircraft to bases proximate to Tibet. In addition, it has raised two new mountain divisions, plans to establish two armoured brigades across the Himalayas and may raise a new mountain strike corps. In other words, the Indian posture is moving from the purely defensive vis-à-vis the PLA in Tibet, to one which could also include offensive action. In addition, India’s strategic forces have begun to mature with the test of the Agni V and the launch of the Arihant.



If you faced a country with which you have a disputed border, you would not be happy about its growing military profile. But China seems to have developed some amnesia here. After all, its own infrastructure and military build up has outpaced that of India’s by at least a decade and a half. In this period, China has developed a railway, an extensive road network in Tibet and Xinjiang. In addition it has deployed powerful forces, which include armour, rocket artillery and battlefield support missiles. They have developed new airfields and have conducted as many as four major military exercises in Tibet in 2012.



It is useful to look back at the last major crisis which took place in 1986-1987 over Sumdorong Chu. This coincided with ‘Exercise Chequerboard’ involving the movement of forces from the plains of Assam to the Arunachal mountains. When the panicked Chinese moved forward their forces, India began Op Falcon and used its heavy helicopter lift capability to build up rapidly across the entire LAC and even deployed infantry combat vehicles and tanks in some areas.



Far-reaching agreements



The result was the 1993 and 1996 confidence building agreements. They are far reaching and important, and yet they have never been seriously implemented. For example clause 2 of the 1993 agreement accepted that there should be ceilings on forces on either side, that the two sides would reduce their forces along the LAC and that the “extent, depth, timing, and nature of reduction of military forces” would be determined through mutual consultations.

Article 3 of the 1996 agreement specified that the major category of armaments such as tanks, infantry combat vehicles artillery guns, heavy mortars, surface-to-surface and surface-to-air missiles would be reduced with the ceilings to be decided through mutual agreement.



However, to implement such an agreement required one key step spelt out in Article 10 of the 1996 agreement — that the two sides would work out a common understanding of the alignment of the LAC. But the Chinese have baulked at working this out and so the key clauses of the agreements remain in a limbo.



Indian chicken hawks who have been advocating a military response to the Chinese action on the LAC are wrong on two counts. First, we are in the middle of our modernisation cycle, lacking vital elements such as mountain artillery and heavy lift helicopters. Second, an over-the-top military response to what was a non-threatening military action on the part of the PLA would have needlessly escalated the situation. In the last count there appeared to be five tents and seven men and a dog in the Chinese encampment. In retrospect, the handling of the situation which involved a symmetrical non-threatening military response by Indian forces, along with patient diplomacy, paid off.



The message from China right now seems to be that it is ready to engage India across the entire spectrum, which includes the disputed border. There is nothing in Chinese actions suggesting that they are looking for a fight. New Delhi needs to firmly tell the Chinese not to put the cart before the horse, and that it cannot and will not freeze its border dispositions or its modernisation schemes.



The upcoming visit of Chinese Premier Li Keqiang should be used to push the long pending exchange of maps detailing the Chinese and Indian versions of the LAC as a prelude to working out a common alignment of the LAC in a time-bound manner. Only this will ensure peace and tranquillity on the Sino-Indian border and open up the possibility that the border dispositions are not only frozen, but actually drawn down as per the 1993 and 1996 agreements. This in turn could give life to the stalled Special Representative process which was set up in 2003 to work out a mutually agreed border.

(The writer is a Distinguished Fellow at the Observer Research Foundation, New Delhi)

Making sense of the Depsang incursion - The Hindu

 

[navtrek]

source please?

dont take it that seriously buddy he is just kidding

 

[Dash]

@isro2222, you are the most patriotic Indian here...

 

[isro2222]

@Ayush if you ever go in tarai region than do ask people there.... They will be bit shy first but later they will explain you why china havent fired a single bullet on indo-china border.... The pleiadians are in touch with indian tarai region kids and when u meet them u will feel they very smart indeed.... Many media people made fun of the news but later they realized something going on. China said that the superior beings protecting india and china from anglo americans and israelys (as israel ruled by the most powerful Elohim gods who told Lord shiva to leave heaven. its long story. cant type here). But the truth is pleiadians protecting india from elohim race, america and also making sure china dont war india. Pleiadians took over india totaly in 1963 after 1962 war. They met billy (sweden guy) in india and told him there will be huge war and in this nuclear war 3 powerful presidents will die.... Let me know if u want evidence and i will post here.... Btw if you going tarai than let me know.... i went tarai in 2010. Very beautiful village. Must visit specialy now in summer days.... Than investigate and also watch pleiadians spaceship at day and night....
Psychedelic Adventure: Indian children communicating with ET

 

[Ayush]

@Ayush if you ever go in tarai region than do ask people there.... They will be bit shy first but later they will explain you why china havent fired a single bullet on indo-china border.... The pleiadians are in touch with indian tarai region kids and when u meet them u will feel they very smart indeed.... Many media people made fun of the news but later they realized something going on. China said that the superior beings protecting india and china from anglo americans and israelys (as israel ruled by the most powerful Elohim gods who told Lord shiva to leave heaven. its long story. cant type here). But the truth is pleiadians protecting india from elohim race, america and also making sure china dont war india. Pleiadians took over india totaly in 1963 after 1962 war. They met billy (sweden guy) in india and told him there will be huge war and in this nuclear war 3 powerful presidents will die.... Let me know if u want evidence and i will post here.... Btw if you going tarai than let me know.... i went tarai in 2010. Very beautiful village. Must visit specialy now in summer days.... Than investigate and also watch pleiadians spaceship at day and night....
Psychedelic Adventure: Indian children communicating with ET

post them..

 

[isro2222]

@Ayush i met billy in 1998 and told him being in touch with pleiadians through my team.... He told me how he met pleiadians. At 5 he met pleiadians and they told him when time is right we will meet u at our home.... The home they referring was india (originally pleiadians are from planet Erra). Billy roamed around world.... When he came india and stayed at ashoka temple he saw pleiadians beamship. They met him and told him wellcome in our home. He clicked few pics of beamship. Pleiadians told about india asia and how america enemy of pleiadians due to tall greys.... Pleiadians choosed him to be the guy who will spread word about america how usa goverment killing people by poison.... Pleiadians told him many things about india (mentioned last year about them in my posts).... Billy was taken into our orbit and while going he clicked american spaceship docked in our orbit. He was taken back to dinosaur age. He was taken to diamond shape planet.... When billy told them he cant travel to india every month as its tiring traveling so long than pleiadians told him they will meet him anywhere he is.... When billy went america than american goverment started proving he a mentaly retarded and called him fake. Billy told pleiadians he need evidence.... Pleiadians gave him many evidence and after 60years none of the evidence was proven fake. Goverment did its best to prove it fake but they could not.... i can tell u alot more but my time for cosmic meditation now.... Here billy in india clicked pleiadian beamship....
http://chandrakantha.com/articles/indian_music/filmi_sangeet/media/1964_UFO.jpg
here about billy in india....
Psychedelic Adventure: Billy Meier's Intergalactic Time Travel Adventures With The Pleiadians
here about the evidences. MUST VISIT this two links....
TheyFly.com - The Billy Meier UFO Contacts - Final Proof Hasenbol
Billy Meier Finally Vindicated?, UFO Casebook files
and here about the beamship Pleiadians use. Its indian temple shape beamship and uses worm hole to travel....
http://www.tarrdaniel.com/documents/Ufology/images/Pleiades/beamships.gif

 

[MST]

@Ayush if you ever go in tarai region than do ask people there.... They will be bit shy first but later they will explain you why china havent fired a single bullet on indo-china border.... The pleiadians are in touch with indian tarai region kids and when u meet them u will feel they very smart indeed.... Many media people made fun of the news but later they realized something going on. China said that the superior beings protecting india and china from anglo americans and israelys (as israel ruled by the most powerful Elohim gods who told Lord shiva to leave heaven. its long story. cant type here). But the truth is pleiadians protecting india from elohim race, america and also making sure china dont war india. Pleiadians took over india totaly in 1963 after 1962 war. They met billy (sweden guy) in india and told him there will be huge war and in this nuclear war 3 powerful presidents will die.... Let me know if u want evidence and i will post here.... Btw if you going tarai than let me know.... i went tarai in 2010. Very beautiful village. Must visit specialy now in summer days.... Than investigate and also watch pleiadians spaceship at day and night....
Psychedelic Adventure: Indian children communicating with ET

Who are pleiadians man. And why do they only communicate with Tarai kids? Weird.