How Hindutva agents have shattered their own dreams

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Brahmans are the fascists. Baniya caste (trader and businessmen) are the capitalists. Brahmans are the mastermind. Baniyas are the financiers.

Brahmans consider themselves to be white so they admire hitler. When a white supremacists kills them for being brown. They get a reality check.

My dear friend,


Why do god/gods create inequality? Or is it man's selfish invention?

Shouldn't everyone be born equal and make his/her life according to their talents and application thereof?

Isn't democracy all bout equality?

Masterminds. Brahmins. Eternal ruling elite. Whiteness. 5000 years.

Why this obssession with whiteness...even bleaching skin. Why this denial of one's own true self? Why this hate for Africans and blackness? Brahminism.


The idea of taxation in democracy is that you pay taxes and in return you get to elect those who champion your cause and seek benefit for you.

But by classification of humans into servitude is the verse form of taxation without the benefit of representative outlet.

When you confine humans to such states, the oppressors not only steal all the opportunities in their lives but that of their childeren as well. Worst form of theft!

Now a question for you, kind sir.

What has given so much power to this brahmin class? How can they remain a ruling elite for so long? 5000 years.

Surely, through education there must be some enlightenment in india? Do these rich or middle class indians even see this as gross violation of human dignity?

Oppressive System of beliefs, this surely is..

Or are these indian rich and middle classes are beneficiaries of the 'System' without any incentive to change the status quo?

After all they can pay less than dollar a day to a lower caste human to have a servant for free, practically.

I am sure you have followed this modi person's demonitrisation coup.

Who was/is most affected by this and which class benefited the most?

Monitory Fascism? modi?


It is a delight to interact with you, dear BlackIndian. And I am pleased to see that you are not bannished from PDF when your countrymen were baying for your virtual blood.

Facisim needs to be fought everywhere.


Hinduvta = Brahminism?


Regards,

SPF

 

[Bitter Melon]

Which is why I do not plan on convincing the whole world, only those who I see can change when they see the light.

Have you ever seen me debate with a pakistani or a chinese ? Now that would be a colossal waste of time.

Everybody has the right to be wrong or be an asshole. I do not grudge them that.

Have you ever been able to convince an Indian leftist? You have debated Shearer, has he an iota of shame in him? This guy is cast in that same mold. The points you bring forth have been on this forum for may be 5-6 years now. Not just here, they are all over the internet and social media. Anyone even remotely acquainted with social media would have had ample opportunity to debrief themselves on our sociopolitical economic reality. This retard is damaged goods and there is not a sliver of chance in the world he would ever see light.

 

[padamchen]

Have you ever been able to convince an Indian leftist? You have debated Shearer, has he an iota of shame in him? This guy is cast in that same mold. The points you bring forth have been on this forum for may be 5-6 years now. Not just here, they are all over the internet and social media. Anyone even remotely acquainted with social media would have had ample opportunity to debrief themselves on our sociopolitical economic reality. This retard is damaged goods and there is not a sliver of chance in the world he would ever see light.

Hmmmm.

Hell hath no fury ....

 

[danger007]

Tell you the truth I have never in my life faced discrimination. I have never had any reason to feel aggrieved about Hinduism. I have seen Muslims and Christians talk crap about Dalits but rarely seen a Hindu talk shit about us. I have never seen a Muslim or a Christian display even a fraction of the sensitivity that a Hindu displays in normal everyday life. My only information on those so called atrocities on SC/ST/Dalit communities have come from media and leftists. These are nothing but vile propaganda atrocity literature is proved by the stats on crimes committed on Dalits by the Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe (Prevention of Atrocities) Act.



You can take your apologies and stuff it where the sun does not shine.

wah you want to say no atrocities on dalits, you mean we have equal society no upper and lower caste differences ..



Updated: Jan 31, 2017 08:46 IST
By Pawan Dixit, Hindustan Times, Lucknow

For the Dalit Katheria family of the nondescript Daulatpur village in Mainpuri district of western Uttar Pradesh, the New Year turned out to be traumatic.

Hari Om Katheria, 35, his wife Meera and brother Shyam Sunder were thrashed by Chhotey Lal, an upper caste Thakur, for not greeting him with a ‘Ram Ram’.

On January 15, Hari Om was working in his field when Chhotey Lal passed by. Chhotey Lal was infuriated as Hari Om did not wish him ‘Ram Ram’ and thrashed the Dalit farmer with his slippers.

When Hari Om’s wife Meera and brother Shyam Sunder intervened, Chhotey Lal thrashed and abused them too.

Later that night, Chhotey Lal and his henchmen went to Hari Om’s house and after thrashing the family again, set the poor farmer’s house on fire.

The incident was reported by some sections of the media but was largely washed away amid the high-profile family feud in the Samajwadi Party.

Chhotey lal was arrested and sent to jail. However, he is now out on bail and the case is in the trial stage.

Atrocities against Dalits have continued despite Constitutional safeguards that came into force 68 years ago.

“The State shall promote with special care the educational and economic interests of the weaker section of the people and in particular, of the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes, and shall protect them from social injustice and all forms of exploitation” says Article 46 of the Indian Constitution.

http://m.hindustantimes.com/india-n...tar-pradesh/story-f8M4EkiPEGeVy6kwadODSP.html

Atrocities on Dalits are widely acknowledged fact... no matter if you deny or accept, fact is fact..



But Dalits remain the most oppressed section of the Indian community with poll-bound Uttar Pradesh topping the list of states with atrocities against them. According to the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB) 2015 statistics, Uttar Pradesh recorded the highest number of 8,358 incidents of atrocities against Dalits.
The hacking of a Dalit couple in Mainpuri district on July 28 last year had brought UP into national focus all for wrong reasons. Ashok Mishra, an upper caste grocery owner, had hacked Bharat Nat, 45, and his wife Mamta, 40, after they failed to pay a debt of Rs 15. Four minor children of the deceased couple continue to be at the mercy of neighbours.

This was just few days after the infamous Una incident in Gujarat, where four Dalits were flogged in public for skinning a dead cow. However, there was no Gujarat like-uprising of Dalits in Uttar Pradesh after the murder of the couple. Mishra was arrested and sent to jail and is currently facing trial.

Despite the Centre’s decision to amend the SC and ST (Prevention of Atrocities) Act in December 2015 to make the law more stringent, there has been no respite in cases of atrocities on Dalits in UP.

 

[padamchen]

wah you want to say no atrocities on dalits, you mean we have equal society no upper and lower caste differences ..



Updated: Jan 31, 2017 08:46 IST
By Pawan Dixit, Hindustan Times, Lucknow

For the Dalit Katheria family of the nondescript Daulatpur village in Mainpuri district of western Uttar Pradesh, the New Year turned out to be traumatic.

Hari Om Katheria, 35, his wife Meera and brother Shyam Sunder were thrashed by Chhotey Lal, an upper caste Thakur, for not greeting him with a ‘Ram Ram’.

On January 15, Hari Om was working in his field when Chhotey Lal passed by. Chhotey Lal was infuriated as Hari Om did not wish him ‘Ram Ram’ and thrashed the Dalit farmer with his slippers.

When Hari Om’s wife Meera and brother Shyam Sunder intervened, Chhotey Lal thrashed and abused them too.

Later that night, Chhotey Lal and his henchmen went to Hari Om’s house and after thrashing the family again, set the poor farmer’s house on fire.

The incident was reported by some sections of the media but was largely washed away amid the high-profile family feud in the Samajwadi Party.

Chhotey lal was arrested and sent to jail. However, he is now out on bail and the case is in the trial stage.

Atrocities against Dalits have continued despite Constitutional safeguards that came into force 68 years ago.

“The State shall promote with special care the educational and economic interests of the weaker section of the people and in particular, of the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes, and shall protect them from social injustice and all forms of exploitation” says Article 46 of the Indian Constitution.

http://m.hindustantimes.com/india-n...tar-pradesh/story-f8M4EkiPEGeVy6kwadODSP.html

Atrocities on Dalits are widely acknowledged fact... no matter if you deny or accept, fact is fact..



But Dalits remain the most oppressed section of the Indian community with poll-bound Uttar Pradesh topping the list of states with atrocities against them. According to the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB) 2015 statistics, Uttar Pradesh recorded the highest number of 8,358 incidents of atrocities against Dalits.
The hacking of a Dalit couple in Mainpuri district on July 28 last year had brought UP into national focus all for wrong reasons. Ashok Mishra, an upper caste grocery owner, had hacked Bharat Nat, 45, and his wife Mamta, 40, after they failed to pay a debt of Rs 15. Four minor children of the deceased couple continue to be at the mercy of neighbours.

This was just few days after the infamous Una incident in Gujarat, where four Dalits were flogged in public for skinning a dead cow. However, there was no Gujarat like-uprising of Dalits in Uttar Pradesh after the murder of the couple. Mishra was arrested and sent to jail and is currently facing trial.

Despite the Centre’s decision to amend the SC and ST (Prevention of Atrocities) Act in December 2015 to make the law more stringent, there has been no respite in cases of atrocities on Dalits in UP.

She's play acting.

Don't rub it in. Her people have had a hard hard few thousand years.

 

[Vishwabalas]

Have you ever been able to convince an Indian leftist? You have debated Shearer, has he an iota of shame in him? This guy is cast in that same mold. The points you bring forth have been on this forum for may be 5-6 years now. Not just here, they are all over the internet and social media. Anyone even remotely acquainted with social media would have had ample opportunity to debrief themselves on our sociopolitical economic reality. This retard is damaged goods and there is not a sliver of chance in the world he would ever see light.

Old men are set in their ways, and that old dog is too old to learn new tricks. I am more worried about him poisoning the water and turning the young impressionable one's into zombies.

She's play acting.

Don't rub it in. Her people have had a hard hard few thousand years.

"her people" ? they are not "your people" ? only Christians are your people ?

Who is really "play acting" here ?

 

[Bitter Melon]

wah you want to say no atrocities on dalits, you mean we have equal society no upper and lower caste differences ..



Updated: Jan 31, 2017 08:46 IST
By Pawan Dixit, Hindustan Times, Lucknow

For the Dalit Katheria family of the nondescript Daulatpur village in Mainpuri district of western Uttar Pradesh, the New Year turned out to be traumatic.

Hari Om Katheria, 35, his wife Meera and brother Shyam Sunder were thrashed by Chhotey Lal, an upper caste Thakur, for not greeting him with a ‘Ram Ram’.

On January 15, Hari Om was working in his field when Chhotey Lal passed by. Chhotey Lal was infuriated as Hari Om did not wish him ‘Ram Ram’ and thrashed the Dalit farmer with his slippers.

When Hari Om’s wife Meera and brother Shyam Sunder intervened, Chhotey Lal thrashed and abused them too.

Later that night, Chhotey Lal and his henchmen went to Hari Om’s house and after thrashing the family again, set the poor farmer’s house on fire.

The incident was reported by some sections of the media but was largely washed away amid the high-profile family feud in the Samajwadi Party.

Chhotey lal was arrested and sent to jail. However, he is now out on bail and the case is in the trial stage.

Atrocities against Dalits have continued despite Constitutional safeguards that came into force 68 years ago.

“The State shall promote with special care the educational and economic interests of the weaker section of the people and in particular, of the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes, and shall protect them from social injustice and all forms of exploitation” says Article 46 of the Indian Constitution.

http://m.hindustantimes.com/india-n...tar-pradesh/story-f8M4EkiPEGeVy6kwadODSP.html

Atrocities on Dalits are widely acknowledged fact... no matter if you deny or accept, fact is fact..



But Dalits remain the most oppressed section of the Indian community with poll-bound Uttar Pradesh topping the list of states with atrocities against them. According to the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB) 2015 statistics, Uttar Pradesh recorded the highest number of 8,358 incidents of atrocities against Dalits.
The hacking of a Dalit couple in Mainpuri district on July 28 last year had brought UP into national focus all for wrong reasons. Ashok Mishra, an upper caste grocery owner, had hacked Bharat Nat, 45, and his wife Mamta, 40, after they failed to pay a debt of Rs 15. Four minor children of the deceased couple continue to be at the mercy of neighbours.

This was just few days after the infamous Una incident in Gujarat, where four Dalits were flogged in public for skinning a dead cow. However, there was no Gujarat like-uprising of Dalits in Uttar Pradesh after the murder of the couple. Mishra was arrested and sent to jail and is currently facing trial.

Despite the Centre’s decision to amend the SC and ST (Prevention of Atrocities) Act in December 2015 to make the law more stringent, there has been no respite in cases of atrocities on Dalits in UP.

Padre in case you did not know, media credibility in India is lower than Congress' or Aam Aadmi Party's. So it will be more beneficial for you to propagate this report in Christian Persecution Channels than come up here to argue with me about them. It will earn you more rice bags when you show demonic Hinduisms deeds there than posting them over here.

 

[padamchen]

@danger007

Its great that dalits can now actually use the internet and converse in English and feel confident enough to bandy words with non dalit Indians.

My reservation, pardon the pun, is about the fact that the rest of non Hindu India had to subsidize the rise of Hindus. Oppressed by Hindus.

Why? What is this nonsense?

I never oppressed any dalit man. My maid girl, she makes my coffee. I drink it without any hesitation. I take it from her hands direct. Again, zero hesitation.

She drinks water from the family matka.

She eats the same food we eat.

So what oppression have we done that we are paying in terms of reservation for them?

 

[BlackIndian]

My dear friend,


Why do god/gods create inequality? Or is it man's selfish invention?

Shouldn't everyone be born equal and make his/her life according to their talents and application thereof?

Isn't democracy all bout equality?

Masterminds. Brahmins. Eternal ruling elite. Whiteness. 5000 years.

Why this obssession with whiteness...even bleaching skin. Why this denial of one's own true self? Why this hate for Africans and blackness? Brahminism.


The idea of taxation in democracy is that you pay taxes and in return you get to elect those who champion your cause and seek benefit for you.

But by classification of humans into servitude is the verse form of taxation without the benefit of representative outlet.

When you confine humans to such states, the oppressors not only steal all the opportunities in their lives but that of their childeren as well. Worst form of theft!

Now a question for you, kind sir.

What has given so much power to this brahmin class? How can they remain a ruling elite for so long? 5000 years.

Surely, through education there must be some enlightenment in india? Do these rich or middle class indians even see this as gross violation of human dignity?

Oppressive System of beliefs, this surely is..

Or are these indian rich and middle classes are beneficiaries of the 'System' without any incentive to change the status quo?

After all they can pay less than dollar a day to a lower caste human to have a servant for free, practically.

I am sure you have followed this modi person's demonitrisation coup.

Who was/is most affected by this and which class benefited the most?

Monitory Fascism? modi?


It is a delight to interact with you, dear BlackIndian. And I am pleased to see that you are not bannished from PDF when your countrymen were baying for your virtual blood.

Facisim needs to be fought everywhere.


Hinduvta = Brahminism?


Regards,

SPF

Before arrival of these brahman devils from Central Asia, aboriginals of India were practising animism which had no caste system. Brahmin invaders infilritated our religion and created a caste system which placed them at top for eterniy. The original inhabitants of these land were subjugated and enslaved. Its really unfortunate that we kicked out the British colonizer but Brahmans colonizer still remain.

Hinduism/Hindutva=Brahmanvad/Brahminism

The brahman God is a hateful one.

Brahmans are trying to falsify aryan invasion incident in public. But behind closed doors they accept and consider them to be white aryans from Europe. They want to officialy enslave people like me by amending constitution and making India a Hindu/Brahman Rashtra like ancient times of Manu the Indian hitler.

Personally I feel these brahman fascists will remian in power for atleast 20 years. The west and the east have given their secret approval to these brahman fascists? Why no sanctions against this country?

If so called hinduism remains a majority religion Brahmanism will always stay. Even the fascists were not as cruel as these Brahmins.

Only hope I see is in China if it gives up its one India policy.

 

[Bitter Melon]

Reality of crimes against Dalits ST/SCs.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-murders-rose-to-744/articleshow/49488994.cms

SC/STs are 25% or above of the total Indian population. That is more than 300 million. India reports 25,000-35,000 rapes a year and about 45000 murders. Look at the number of rapes and murders SC/ST in India have heaped on them compared to the rest of the population.

 

[911]

She's play acting.

Don't rub it in. Her people have had a hard hard few thousand years.

Stop talking crap maybe?

 

[Bitter Melon]

Old men are set in their ways, and that old dog is too old to learn new tricks. I am more worried about him poisoning the water and turning the young impressionable one's into zombies.

That bandicoot has already poisoned 2 generations of Indians. Thankfully for India, they are in very small numbers and are being weeded out. You cannot turn around these idiots. Purging them is the only way.

 

[Vishwabalas]

@danger007

Its great that dalits can now actually use the internet and converse in English and feel confident enough to bandy words with non dalit Indians.

My reservation, pardon the pun, is about the fact that the rest of non Hindu India had to subsidize the rise of Hindus. Oppressed by Hindus.

Why? What is this nonsense?

I never oppressed any dalit man. My maid girl, she makes my coffee. I drink it without any hesitation. I take it from her hands direct. Again, zero hesitation.

She drinks water from the family matka.

She eats the same food we eat.

So what oppression have we done that we are paying in terms of reservation for them?

Real Class ....... your parents must be so pround.



Now Spare a few for your crocodile tears for Dalit Christians too

FOR THE first time in its history, the Indian Catholic Church has officially accepted that Dalit Christians face untouchability and discrimination, and that “their participation in the level of leadership… at the higher levels is almost nil”.

Image of separate graveyard for Dalit Christians.

That bandicoot has already poisoned 2 generations of Indians. Thankfully for India, they are in very small numbers and are being weeded out. You cannot turn around these idiots. Purging them is the only way.

Seeing his childish posts, his emotional stability seems to be compromised. Its like watching a kid throw a tantrum.

 

[padamchen]

The burden of oppression of dalits over centuries needs to be borne by Hindus and Hindus ONLY.

It is absurd that such a high percentage of seats, especially in professional colleges, is reserved for frankly sub standard dalit students. Promoting mediocrity.

Hindus have systematically oppressed them and treated them as filth over centuries. Its their cross to bear.

Any merit entrance, keep a quota if you must. X% of the seats Hindu students manage to get, are filled by their less fortunate historically oppressed brethren.

The Hindus who lose out should think of it as repayment for what their ancestors have done. And take up arts. Or start a small shop somewhere, and hope their kids would be luckier.

 

[Vishwabalas]

The burden of oppression of dalits over centuries needs to be borne by Hindus and Hindus ONLY.

It is absurd that such a high percentage of seats, especially in professional colleges, is reserved for frankly sub standard dalit students. Promoting mediocrity.

Hindus have systematically oppressed them and treated them as filth over centuries. Its their cross to bear.

Any merit entrance, keep a quota if you must. X% of the seats Hindu students manage to get, are filled by their less fortunate historically oppressed brethren.

The Hindus who lose out should think of it as repayment for what their ancestors have done. And take up arts. Or start a small shop somewhere, and hope their kids would be luckier.