How do you think Indians should react to the Quad?

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Australia didnot recognize Original Australians (Aborigines) as human beings till 1967
Japan committed severe racial violence on Chinese (especially women) as part of state policy
America has genocided 10 million Native Americans and thrived on 400 years of oppression of the black man as well as abhorrent treatment of Chinese Americans who built the railways of United States

As the only brown nation in the Quad (Japan has been termed honourary whites by Western powers) do you think it was the correct decision for India?

We have severe issues with the Chinese, and we should tackle that on our own..........But do you think we should side with the oppressors of the Chinese?

Or do you think a more coloured leadership of USA (half-Indian, Half-Black woman Vice President) makes it more acceptable? Quad can only be successful if USA remains committed to diversity

 

[Bill Longley]

US is past and china is future

Enter China. The economies of the US and China are intricately linked, due to the two nations sharing a large trading partnership of goods and services and investment. The US deficit is financed partly by capital flows from China. China holds more US Treasury securities than any other foreign country except Japan. According to the US Treasury, China owned $1.06 trillion in US debt securities as of Sept. 2020.

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Despite the worsening political relationship, over the past two months Chinese exports to the US climbed 21%. So, the sides are boosting trade rather than decreasing it. So, exacerbating tensions while both economies require better relations would be simply unreasonable.”

 

[KurtisBrian]

Chinese and Pakistanis have a history of conflict with Indians. Were ready to have another. Indians should be thanking France, Australia, Japan and the USA for saving the wealth horders and preventing the Chinese and Pakistanis from conquering India.

largest ydna haplogroups among Indian men R(38%), H(16), L(11) J(11)
largest ydna haplogroups among Aborigine men (C 40-50 and K 40-50)

Not the same people.
The small percentage of ydna haplogroup K men in India seem to belong to the Sudras caste. not too far up from slaves.

The Geographic Origins of Ethnic Groups in the Indian Subcontinent: Exploring Ancient Footprints with Y-DNA Haplogroups - PMC

Several studies have evaluated the movements of large populations to the Indian subcontinent; however, the ancient geographic origins of smaller ethnic communities are not clear. Although historians have attempted to identify the origins of some ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Deep Roots for Aboriginal Australian Y Chromosomes - PMC

Australia was one of the earliest regions outside Africa to be colonized by fully modern humans, with archaeological evidence for human presence by 47,000 years ago (47 kya) widely accepted [1, 2]. However, the extent of subsequent human entry ...

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The Geographic Origins of Ethnic Groups in the Indian Subcontinent: Exploring Ancient Footprints with Y-DNA Haplogroups - PMC

Several studies have evaluated the movements of large populations to the Indian subcontinent; however, the ancient geographic origins of smaller ethnic communities are not clear. Although historians have attempted to identify the origins of some ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Chinese and Pakistanis have a history of conflict with Indians. Were ready to have another. Indians should be thanking France, Australia, Japan and the USA for saving the wealth horders and preventing the Chinese and Pakistanis from conquering India.

largest ydna haplogroups among Indian men R(38%), H(16), L(11) J(11)
largest ydna haplogroups among Aborigine men (C 40-50 and K 40-50)

Not the same people.
The small percentage of ydna haplogroup K men in India seem to belong to the Sudras caste. not too far up from slaves.

The Geographic Origins of Ethnic Groups in the Indian Subcontinent: Exploring Ancient Footprints with Y-DNA Haplogroups - PMC

Several studies have evaluated the movements of large populations to the Indian subcontinent; however, the ancient geographic origins of smaller ethnic communities are not clear. Although historians have attempted to identify the origins of some ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Deep Roots for Aboriginal Australian Y Chromosomes - PMC

Australia was one of the earliest regions outside Africa to be colonized by fully modern humans, with archaeological evidence for human presence by 47,000 years ago (47 kya) widely accepted [1, 2]. However, the extent of subsequent human entry ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The Geographic Origins of Ethnic Groups in the Indian Subcontinent: Exploring Ancient Footprints with Y-DNA Haplogroups - PMC

Several studies have evaluated the movements of large populations to the Indian subcontinent; however, the ancient geographic origins of smaller ethnic communities are not clear. Although historians have attempted to identify the origins of some ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

All Indians are overwhelmingly AASI

 

[AgnosticIndian]

Settler colonial states and states with a history of fascist genocidal behaviour that they refuse to apologize for don't have moral high ground over anyone, but neither does China. I honestly think these countries need to pay repartitions to their victims and issue formal apology but it's not like they're committing genocide currently or doing anything worse than China. But as they say, there are no permanent friends or enemies of countries, only interestes. I think this picture is worth a thousand words.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Settler colonial states and states with a history of fascist genocidal behaviour that they refuse to apologize for don't have moral high ground over anyone, but neither does China. I honestly think these countries need to pay repartitions to their victims and issue formal apology but it's not like they're committing genocide currently or doing anything worse than China. But as they say, there are no permanent friends or enemies of countries, only interestes. I think this picture is worth a thousand words.
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Is PRC the successor state of Manchu China? if it is then i think USA is in more wrong here...if not both are the same.....though even then the population of Native American Indians is pitifully low

 

[KurtisBrian]

Is PRC the successor state of Manchu China? if it is then i think USA is in more wrong here...if not both are the same.....though even then the population of Native American Indians is pitifully low

Yeah, interesting how there are few Native American Indians but ydna haplogroup R1b and R1a males number almost a billion. Easy to see who does the genocide.

 

[AgnosticIndian]

Is PRC the successor state of Manchu China? if it is then i think USA is in more wrong here...if not both are the same.....though even then the population of Native American Indians is pitifully low

I do not think the foreign policy and geopolitics of today should be dictated by the events of the past. USA opposes China not because of some past events, but simply because it fears the rise of China and doesn't want to become irrelevant. No one is in right or wrong here, it's simply the geopolitics and power rivalry of present. If India uses this rivalry to get some leverage over China, it would be a smart move. It's another cold war, and I think maybe I would have preferred China as an ally over the USA, but we cannot choose can we? Border issues, the issue of Tibet, the atrocities in Xinjiang make it unlikely. It's Mandala theory, for some reason this neighbor is our enemy and we have to befriend the neighbour of our neighbor (Japan) who are our neighbor's enemies.
Britain has a history of oppression and colonialism in the Indian subcontinent, but all three countries (Pakistan, India, Bangladesh) have good relations with it. South Korea has a similar history of oppression by the Japanese empire and here too Japan refuses to apologize for it's atrocities. This has caused some tension over issues like "comfort women" which Japan tries to deny the existence of. But nonetheless South Korea is part of USA ally group along with Japan. After the Nixon visit, China dropped it's demand for war repartitions (Japan–China Joint Communiqué) and restarted trade relations with Japan (this caused bit of a controversy among some Chinese nationalists). The right thing do to is to apologize and pay repartitions, but current circumstances make it unlikely. Economy, trade and self interest are more important than bickering over the past.