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What a beautifully wishful article. Too bad the timing could not have been worse.

OP should visit some RSS camps, the 'evil Hindu Order'. Interesting. :D
 
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The hatred for dalits is already for the all the world to see, when many Indian posters here make fun of dalit looks. Dalits need to follow the example of Ambedkar and Kanshi Ram and become Buddhists en mass:
Kanshi Ram - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Announcement for conversion to Buddhism
In 2002, Kanshi Ram, announced his intention to convert to Buddhism on 14 October 2006, the fiftieth anniversary of Ambedkar's conversion. He intended for 20,000,000 of his supporters to convert at the same time. Part of the significance of this plan was that Ram's followers include not only Untouchables, but persons from a variety of castes, who could significantly broaden Buddhism's support. But, he died 9 October 2006.[2] Mayawati his successor said "Kanshi Ram and me had decided that we will convert and adopt Buddhism when we will get "absolute majority" at the Centre. We wanted to do this because we can make a difference to the religion by taking along with us millions of people. If we convert without power then only we two will be converting. But when you have power you can really create a stir," she said.[3]"


And what did she do when she came into power in the all important state of UP? Spend millions of tax payers' money on lavish monuments with multiple statues of herself.
All these people talk about betterment of Dalits but the reality is that it is just vote politics and people proved that they are above all the caste politics. In this elections Mayawati's party did not win even a single seat.
 
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The Game Begins By Anand Teltumbde

The Game Begins

By Anand Teltumbde

11 June, 2014
Countercurrents.org

Now that people have voted for BJP beyond its own imagination and Narendra Modi got on to the business of ‘maximum governance’ many people thought that the old games associated with hindutva would no more be needed. Modi’s performance as far as his conduct and speeches are concerned has been simply superb. Even his worst detractors also were rendered confused by them. Indeed, many people who may not have voted for BJP also began feeling that perhaps Modi might really work. It was too early and too much to believe entirely his rhetorical declaration in an emotion laden speech in the central hall of parliament that his government would be dedicated to the poor and oppressed. Nonetheless many felt that perhaps, given his background, having come from an ordinary backward caste family and independent demeanours, he may really be more sensitive to the poor and oppressed. At the least, he would be sensitive to the Muslims, who have not voted for him and Dalits, who have massively voted for him, the communities who mainly constitute the subject of his dedication.

However, two prominent incidents happened during this week, among of course a spate of rapes and murders of dalits, tend to belie these expectations and create a contrary impression that perhaps the old games have begun.

Damn Dalit Demands

The horrid incident at Bhagana in Haryana in which four girls aged 13 to 18 were sedated, gang-raped, kidnapped by the culprits of the dominant Jat community, who abused them the entire night and threw them into the bushes near the Bhatinda railway station on 23 March was shocking enough to shame the country. However, what followed was far more revolting and shameful. The girls had to pass through humiliating two finger tests which have been officially banned for the rape victims during their medical examination. While the police had registered their complaints under pressure from dalit community, they took five weeks to apprehend the culprits. Whereas, the judicial process to get them released in the Hissar court had immediately begun, the Dalits of Bhagana, along with the families of those innocent girls had to go for sit-ins for justice. They were scared to go back to their village for the fear of reprisal by the Jats. Some 90 Dalit families from Bhagana, including those of the rape survivors, have been protesting at Delhi’s Jantar Mantar since April 16, with 120 others at Hisar’s Mini Secretariat. In the wake of this protest, many other horrid stories of rapes of minor girls came to the fore. As published on Rafoo, a Hindi blog (raffoo: भगाणा में दलित उत्पीड़न और प्रतिरोध की प्रयोगशाला A 17 year old Dalit girl from nearby Dabra village was gang raped by men of the Jat community in 2012 after which her father had committed suicide. Another 10 year old girl was raped by a middle-aged man. Yet another girl was raped by a Jat man who roamed scot-free, but the police arrested the girl and tortured her. All these girls are boldly fighting for justice and were part of the protests.

On 4 June, around 6 am, when most protesters were asleep, a large posse of policemen descended upon Jantar Mantar and pulled down their tents. They forcibly removed them and warned to vacate the place by 12 noon. At Hissar’s mini secretariat too they were evicted in similar manner. At both the places the police scattered and damaged their belongings. Small children including those nirbhayas (a media name for the rape survivors) were thrown on the street, where too police would not let them stay. The protesters accompanied by representatives of women’s, Dalits’ and Students’ organizations and led by mothers of the two of the rape survivors went to the Parliament Street Police Station at about 2 pm to present a memorandum to the officer in charge asking to be allowed to stay in Jantar Mantar since they had nowhere else to go. The group was stopped by policemen at the barricade outside the thana. As the women argued insisting on being allowed to go and meet the officer in charge, the policemen virtually mounted a sexual assault on them with an alibi of pushing them back. As per Kalyani Menon-Sen of Women Against Sexual Violence and State Repression, who was also among the protesters, the policemen grabbed their private parts and pushed their hands into their anal region. The mothers of the survivors and several women activists (including Adv Pyoli Swatija of Samajwadi Jan Parishad, Ms Sumedha Baudh of Rashtiya Dalit Mahila Andolan and Ms Rakhi - of NTUI) were attacked in this foul manner. One senior police officer allegedly shouted out, “are ye aise nahi manenge, lathi ghusao.” (They would not listen this way, insert lathi into them”. After this foul attack, several activists were taken into custody and held for more than an hour.

During the neoliberal era, the democratic spaces for ordinary people were systematically curtailed and brought down to small designated areas in the capital cities of every state and Jantar Mantar in Delhi for the entire nation. People could gather here and shout at their hearts’ content surrounded by police without anyone taking note of them. This is the de facto face of the Indian democracy. In this terrible case, the entire village community having to resort to sit-in protest for nearly two months itself is revolting enough. Instead of taking note of their genuine demand --rehabilitation at safe place as they could not return to Bhagana-- the government getting them brutally evicted from this last traces of democracy, is surely not assuring to Dalits of the ‘good days’ Modi regime promised. Delhi police is directly under the central home ministry and is unlikely to act in such an odious manner unless briefed as such. The most surprising thing is that both Delhi and Haryana police, although under the governments of rival parties seem to have acted in unison. The message is clear enough that the protests, etc. will no more be allowed. After all, how could anyone see ‘good days’ if Jantar Mantars and Azad Maidans still existed?

The First Wicket Falls

While the above was the direct act of the government, there were many insidious acts committed by the outfits emboldened by the BJP’s victory. Just two days before the Bhagana eviction, on 2 June, a 24-year old Muslim youth was killed by the mob belonging to Hindu Rashtra Sena, a decade old Hindu rightist outfit, protesting against the morphed pictures of Shiv Sena patriarch Bal Thackeray and Maratha icon Chhatrapati Shivaji on Facebook. According to the Pune police, the Facebook page with these morphed pictures had existed for over a year and had 50,000 Likes. This well appreciated page, was suddenly sent out on a fast chat application to fuel mob fury by the militants of the Hindu Rashtra Sena. They assumed that it was created and run by a Muslim ‘Nihal Khan’ but according to the police now, it was actually done by a Hindu youth Nikhil Tikone, a resident of Kasha Peth. These facts apart, the page was taken off social networking sites on Friday, soon after sensing trouble and hence there was no need for escalating the issue to a full-fledged protest. However, the goons of Hindu Rashtra Sena and Shiv Sena went ahead with protest on Monday. In the evening in Hadaspar on the outskirts of Pune they stopped a bike, took off its rider, hit him on the head with hockey sticks and stones, left him for dying while they went on rampage in the area. The victim, an IT-professional, Mohsin Sadiq Shaikh, did not have anything to do with the pictures in question. But just because he was sporting a beard and green Pathani kurta the attackers killed him. Shaikh’s cousin, who was accompanying him, escaped while the two others, Ameen Shaikh, 30, and Ijaz Yusuf Bagwan, 25, sustained injuries. The police initially reeled off an usual alibi that the protesters had gathered there following rumours that Shivaji’s statue had been desecrated and a Hindu girl had been raped by Muslim boys as though that justified the killing of an innocent youth.

Immediately after killing Shaikh, an ominous sms was exchanged on mobiles, saying in Marathi ‘pahili wicket padli’(the first wicket has fallen). Going by the message and the weapons with which they attacked Shaikh, it was apparently a planned action. The Police however did nothing in taking preventive steps. It may however be said to its credit, particularly its Joint Commissioner of Police, Sanjay Kumar that he promptly acted in arresting 24 persons including Hindu Rashtra Sena chief Dhananjay Desai, and charged 17 of them with murder. Desai already had as many as 23 cases of rioting and extortion against him in different police stations in the city. The Congress-NCP government in Maharashtra would expectedly flex its secular muscle for its survival in the forthcoming assembly elections, but it does not portend well as far as the silence of the Modi sarkar goes.

The game seems to have already begun. It is to be seen what role Narendra Modi plays in it.

Dr Anand Teltumbde is a writer, political analyst and civil rights activist with CPDR, Mumbai.
 
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Shia-Sunni gaar ki baat hai but when an outsider gets in between we tend to unite to face them off, this has been our history for 1400 years. If Shias are beating up jihadis it is because they threaten Shias don't assume some kind of profound love for the baniya. :laugh:

You don't seem to show the same sensitivity when it comes to Hindus (which also includes the so called Dalits), do you?

Like @Indischer said earlier, conversion doesn't solve anything. Agreed, there were some bad social practices (not really religious, mind you!). But it doesn't mean that some outsider tries to exploit this unfortunate practice (which is dying away) for furthering their own cause!
 
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What a beautifully wishful article. Too bad the timing could not have been worse.

OP should visit some RSS camps, the 'evil Hindu Order'. Interesting. :D

:lol:

One should be thankful to the OP for his desperate attempt in letting us know what the terrorists and the jamaati's are planning and how they intend to align with kafirs or with anybody for the sake of their arab masters to destabilize India.

We should take note and will work towards eliminating the evil - kill the snake before it emerges.
 
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They can't stop killing themselves (a la Iraq) but pretend to care about some of the truly less fortunate among Dharmics.

Also, this piece of art, goes on to show how some people desperately want the Hindus/Dharmic people to fight among themselves so that they could have a bigger say in the scheme of things in this part of the world. This intent alone, no matter how foolishly ill-informed, should really serve as a wake up call for all the Dharmics to end all the historic ill-practices involving caste-ism.

& the hilarious part is sections within Muslims can't unite for their own good.... & are talking about joining hands with sections of other religion! Those who advocate these kinda stuff are nothing but attention seekers, who don't really understand the internal dynamics within our society.
Casteism is not something which was started yesterday & ain't going to end tomorrow either. Eradicating a system which is in existence since thousands of years is getting phased out in India slowly, but surely. In some part.. changes are quite rapid since the awareness of this menace, while in other parts the progress is pretty slow. Especially Southern part of India is making massive strides in overcoming this curse, while backward states in other parts of India are facing many hurdles.
 
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& the hilarious part is sections within Muslims can't unite for their own good.... & are talking about joining hands with sections of other religion! Those who advocate these kinda stuff are nothing but attention seekers, who don't really understand the internal dynamics within our society.
Casteism is not something which was started yesterday & ain't going to end tomorrow either. Eradicating a system which is in existence since thousands of years is getting phased out in India slowly, but surely. In some part.. changes are quite rapid since the awareness of this menace, while in other parts the progress is pretty slow. Especially Southern part of India is making massive strides in overcoming this curse, while backward states in other parts of India are facing many hurdles.
Lol people think that all brahmins are rich and powerfully connected. I had to work my way up from a $hit hole ( everybody I knew did too.) Here is some food for thought
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB119889387595256961
(See Corrections & Amplifications item below.)

CHENNAI, India -- Brahmins, as Hinduism's priestly and scholarly caste, have traditionally occupied a place of privilege in India.

Brahmins have been advisers to Maharajas, Mughals and military rulers. Under British rule, they served as administrators, a position they kept after Indian independence in 1947.

But in today's India, high-caste privileges are dwindling, and with the government giving extensive preferences to the lower-caste majority, many Brahmins are feeling left out of the economy's rapid expansion.

R. Parameswaran has suffered that reversal of fortune. The 29-year-old starts every day with a prayer to the Hindu god Shiva, marking his forehead with red and white powder to let the world know he is a Brahmin. In his home village, his caste's mark brought him respect, but since he moved to Chennai, a sprawling high-tech city in the southern state of Tamil Nadu, in the late 1990s, he has found his status a liability.

In Tamil Nadu, nearly 70% of government jobs and public-college slots are reserved for people from lower castes and other historically disadvantaged groups. Although he says he graduated near the top of his high-school class and had strong test scores, Mr. Parameswaran couldn't get into any of the state engineering colleges. His family had to borrow from friends to send him to a second-rate private college.

He now teaches English at a small vocational school. On a salary of $100 a month, Mr. Parameswaran can't afford an apartment, so he sleeps in the classroom at night. "I am suffering," says the intense young man, using the exaggerated enunciation of an English teacher. "Unfortunately, I was born as a Brahmin."

Although the role of Brahmins has never been synonymous with accumulating wealth, many are affluent enough to educate their children in the better private schools. On average, members of the caste, who make up about 5% of India's population of 1.1 billion, are better educated and better paid than the rest of Indian people.

The term Brahmin has come to be used globally to describe those at the top of the heap with an attitude to match, as in Boston Brahmins. Yet close to half of Brahmin households earn less than $100 a month, according to the Center for a Study of Developing Societies, a New Delhi think tank. For these Brahmins, the array of state-mandated preferences for other groups present a high hurdle.

The reverse discrimination is rooted in Indian history and politics. For decades, Brahmins were resented for their dominance of the government, economy and culture. Indeed, political parties in Tamil Nadu sprang from anti-Brahmin feelings. "If you see a Brahmin and a snake, kill the Brahmin first" was an old slogan.

A national constitution adopted in 1950 reserved more than 20% of government jobs for lower castes. In 1990, an additional 27% were set aside for what were called "other backward castes." Some states set higher quotas, including Tamil Nadu, which reserves 69% of government jobs for lower castes and other needy groups.

The ugliest Brahmin bashing in India ended years ago, but Mr. Parameswaran says that in college in the late 1990s, he still faced ridicule as a Brahmin. He says one student tried to break his sacred thread, a simple circle of twine Brahmins wear under their clothes.

After college, he had an internship in a state-owned chemical company, but says he was told he wouldn't be hired, as there were openings only for lower-caste applicants. He says he took exams to join national railways, state banks and other government agencies, such as the immigration department, but found most posts closed to all Brahmins except the most brilliant.

From his makeshift home where he sleeps with a blanket on a desk most nights, Mr. Parameswaran still applies for government jobs. He pulls out his latest application form and shows a visitor where he always gets stuck: the three squares where he has to write the abbreviation indicating his caste. "I want government work," he says, shaking the application, "but they have no jobs for Brahmins."

Mr. Parameswaran has tried to adapt to the lessening of caste distinctions taking place in many parts of India today, especially in cities. The changes are less in villages such as the one where he grew up some 200 miles away. There, his grandfather, who is 101 years old, still won't wear Western clothes and won't eat outside of his home for fear of mixing with lower castes.

Mr. Parameswaran's father has a job with the state telephone company and is more liberal. He dresses in shirts and pants, doesn't mind eating at restaurants and doesn't expect lower-caste neighbors to take off their sandals in his presence.

Mr. Parameswaran has had good friends from lower castes all his life, many of whom have used their communities to grab good government jobs, he says. He won't eat meat but has no qualms sharing a meal with people of any caste or creed. His 22-year-old sister, R. Dharmambal, is even more liberal, he says. "She will take non-vegetarian food," he exclaims, using the common Indian term for eating meat.

Mr. Parameswaran often visits the sister in the Brahmin enclave of Mylapore. On a recent day there, dozens of shirtless priests in the traditional Brahmin uniform of a white dhoti and partially shaved head were standing around at a Hindu-scriptures school, hoping for work. For as little as 100 rupees, about $2.50, they offered to perform complicated rituals and blessings required when any Hindu has a baby, a wedding or a new home.

"My sons can't support me, so I have to survive by performing Hindu rituals," says K. Narayana, an 81-year-old scholar. "If we had been from another community, we would have had better opportunities."

Nearby stands the Kapaleeshwara Temple, with towering gates of colorful carvings from Hindu mythology. It is one of the most important places for worship for followers of Shiva, the Hindu god of destruction. The temple used to be surrounded by rows of simple single-story homes, each with its own courtyard and well so the Brahmin families wouldn't have to share water with other castes. Most houses have been replaced by concrete apartment blocks and small stores.

At the temple's back gate, Brahmins beg for spare change or look for odd jobs as cooks or even bearers of bodies to funeral pyres, normally a lower-caste pursuit.

"I see so many Brahmins begging" in Mylapore, Mr. Parameswaran says. "It's very difficult to see. It makes me totally upset."

—Tariq Engineer contributed to this article.

Write to Eric Bellman at eric.bellman@awsj.com



Corrections & Amplifications:

The percentage of Brahmin households in India that earned less than $100 a month was about 50% in 2007 and 65% in 2004, according to the Center for the Study of Developing Societies. This article fails to note that the study mentioned in the article was from 2007, while the statistics in the accompanying chart were from 2004.



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Snapshots
Total Population:
5.6 crore
Poor Brahmins:
13%
Rich:
19%
Literacy levels above the age of 18:
84%
Graduates:
39%
Brahmin chief justices between 1950 to 2000:
47%
Associate justices between 1950-2000:
40%

State Percentages

brahamins_table_20070604.jpg

india_brahimns_map_20070604.jpg


Down in the Cow-belt

Falling percentage of Brahmin MPs elected in the Hindi belt

1984: 19.91%
1989: 12.44%
1998: 12.44%
1999: 11.3%
2007: The present Lok Sabha has only 50 Brahmin MPs nationwide. That's 9.17 per cent of the total strength of the House.

Today's Brahmin Politicians

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Brahmins In India

Som privileged community this is :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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@kalu_miah 's next thread......................

"HOW CAN HASINA-TALIBAN-ISIS-AL QAEDA GRAND ALLIANCE CAN DEFEAT EVIL USA" :lol:

I pity the guy who dedicates his entire internet time to searching for unknown blogs on anything anti India - I think we should give some leeway in our trolling to the chamars of BD.
 
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Some people just can not digest the reality that India is not only intact after 65 years but become an emerging economy.

So they come with delusions to break India just to sleep well.

BTW

Can any one enlighten me that why Cow Belt is know as Cow belt ?
 
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The violence is not the worst in many generations, Sunnis and Shias have wiped out much more of each other in medieval times the thousands today is few in number ironically it is just considered more brutal today because Europeans have gotten sick of war after they went through their sectarian battles, Muslims are still going through that phase.

Exactly!!! So why claim moral high ground when it comes to another social evil of casteism in Hindus? At least, casteism was never as bad as "wiping out more of each other"!

And, like you again pointed out, Hinduism and India as whole is "still going through that phase" where casteism is being eradicated right front of our own eyes!
 
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The Game Begins By Anand Teltumbde

The Game Begins

By Anand Teltumbde

11 June, 2014
Countercurrents.org

Now that people have voted for BJP beyond its own imagination and Narendra Modi got on to the business of ‘maximum governance’ many people thought that the old games associated with hindutva would no more be needed. Modi’s performance as far as his conduct and speeches are concerned has been simply superb. Even his worst detractors also were rendered confused by them. Indeed, many people who may not have voted for BJP also began feeling that perhaps Modi might really work. It was too early and too much to believe entirely his rhetorical declaration in an emotion laden speech in the central hall of parliament that his government would be dedicated to the poor and oppressed. Nonetheless many felt that perhaps, given his background, having come from an ordinary backward caste family and independent demeanours, he may really be more sensitive to the poor and oppressed. At the least, he would be sensitive to the Muslims, who have not voted for him and Dalits, who have massively voted for him, the communities who mainly constitute the subject of his dedication.

However, two prominent incidents happened during this week, among of course a spate of rapes and murders of dalits, tend to belie these expectations and create a contrary impression that perhaps the old games have begun.

Damn Dalit Demands

The horrid incident at Bhagana in Haryana in which four girls aged 13 to 18 were sedated, gang-raped, kidnapped by the culprits of the dominant Jat community, who abused them the entire night and threw them into the bushes near the Bhatinda railway station on 23 March was shocking enough to shame the country. However, what followed was far more revolting and shameful. The girls had to pass through humiliating two finger tests which have been officially banned for the rape victims during their medical examination. While the police had registered their complaints under pressure from dalit community, they took five weeks to apprehend the culprits. Whereas, the judicial process to get them released in the Hissar court had immediately begun, the Dalits of Bhagana, along with the families of those innocent girls had to go for sit-ins for justice. They were scared to go back to their village for the fear of reprisal by the Jats. Some 90 Dalit families from Bhagana, including those of the rape survivors, have been protesting at Delhi’s Jantar Mantar since April 16, with 120 others at Hisar’s Mini Secretariat. In the wake of this protest, many other horrid stories of rapes of minor girls came to the fore. As published on Rafoo, a Hindi blog (raffoo: भगाणा में दलित उत्पीड़न और प्रतिरोध की प्रयोगशाला A 17 year old Dalit girl from nearby Dabra village was gang raped by men of the Jat community in 2012 after which her father had committed suicide. Another 10 year old girl was raped by a middle-aged man. Yet another girl was raped by a Jat man who roamed scot-free, but the police arrested the girl and tortured her. All these girls are boldly fighting for justice and were part of the protests.

On 4 June, around 6 am, when most protesters were asleep, a large posse of policemen descended upon Jantar Mantar and pulled down their tents. They forcibly removed them and warned to vacate the place by 12 noon. At Hissar’s mini secretariat too they were evicted in similar manner. At both the places the police scattered and damaged their belongings. Small children including those nirbhayas (a media name for the rape survivors) were thrown on the street, where too police would not let them stay. The protesters accompanied by representatives of women’s, Dalits’ and Students’ organizations and led by mothers of the two of the rape survivors went to the Parliament Street Police Station at about 2 pm to present a memorandum to the officer in charge asking to be allowed to stay in Jantar Mantar since they had nowhere else to go. The group was stopped by policemen at the barricade outside the thana. As the women argued insisting on being allowed to go and meet the officer in charge, the policemen virtually mounted a sexual assault on them with an alibi of pushing them back. As per Kalyani Menon-Sen of Women Against Sexual Violence and State Repression, who was also among the protesters, the policemen grabbed their private parts and pushed their hands into their anal region. The mothers of the survivors and several women activists (including Adv Pyoli Swatija of Samajwadi Jan Parishad, Ms Sumedha Baudh of Rashtiya Dalit Mahila Andolan and Ms Rakhi - of NTUI) were attacked in this foul manner. One senior police officer allegedly shouted out, “are ye aise nahi manenge, lathi ghusao.” (They would not listen this way, insert lathi into them”. After this foul attack, several activists were taken into custody and held for more than an hour.

During the neoliberal era, the democratic spaces for ordinary people were systematically curtailed and brought down to small designated areas in the capital cities of every state and Jantar Mantar in Delhi for the entire nation. People could gather here and shout at their hearts’ content surrounded by police without anyone taking note of them. This is the de facto face of the Indian democracy. In this terrible case, the entire village community having to resort to sit-in protest for nearly two months itself is revolting enough. Instead of taking note of their genuine demand --rehabilitation at safe place as they could not return to Bhagana-- the government getting them brutally evicted from this last traces of democracy, is surely not assuring to Dalits of the ‘good days’ Modi regime promised. Delhi police is directly under the central home ministry and is unlikely to act in such an odious manner unless briefed as such. The most surprising thing is that both Delhi and Haryana police, although under the governments of rival parties seem to have acted in unison. The message is clear enough that the protests, etc. will no more be allowed. After all, how could anyone see ‘good days’ if Jantar Mantars and Azad Maidans still existed?

The First Wicket Falls

While the above was the direct act of the government, there were many insidious acts committed by the outfits emboldened by the BJP’s victory. Just two days before the Bhagana eviction, on 2 June, a 24-year old Muslim youth was killed by the mob belonging to Hindu Rashtra Sena, a decade old Hindu rightist outfit, protesting against the morphed pictures of Shiv Sena patriarch Bal Thackeray and Maratha icon Chhatrapati Shivaji on Facebook. According to the Pune police, the Facebook page with these morphed pictures had existed for over a year and had 50,000 Likes. This well appreciated page, was suddenly sent out on a fast chat application to fuel mob fury by the militants of the Hindu Rashtra Sena. They assumed that it was created and run by a Muslim ‘Nihal Khan’ but according to the police now, it was actually done by a Hindu youth Nikhil Tikone, a resident of Kasha Peth. These facts apart, the page was taken off social networking sites on Friday, soon after sensing trouble and hence there was no need for escalating the issue to a full-fledged protest. However, the goons of Hindu Rashtra Sena and Shiv Sena went ahead with protest on Monday. In the evening in Hadaspar on the outskirts of Pune they stopped a bike, took off its rider, hit him on the head with hockey sticks and stones, left him for dying while they went on rampage in the area. The victim, an IT-professional, Mohsin Sadiq Shaikh, did not have anything to do with the pictures in question. But just because he was sporting a beard and green Pathani kurta the attackers killed him. Shaikh’s cousin, who was accompanying him, escaped while the two others, Ameen Shaikh, 30, and Ijaz Yusuf Bagwan, 25, sustained injuries. The police initially reeled off an usual alibi that the protesters had gathered there following rumours that Shivaji’s statue had been desecrated and a Hindu girl had been raped by Muslim boys as though that justified the killing of an innocent youth.

Immediately after killing Shaikh, an ominous sms was exchanged on mobiles, saying in Marathi ‘pahili wicket padli’(the first wicket has fallen). Going by the message and the weapons with which they attacked Shaikh, it was apparently a planned action. The Police however did nothing in taking preventive steps. It may however be said to its credit, particularly its Joint Commissioner of Police, Sanjay Kumar that he promptly acted in arresting 24 persons including Hindu Rashtra Sena chief Dhananjay Desai, and charged 17 of them with murder. Desai already had as many as 23 cases of rioting and extortion against him in different police stations in the city. The Congress-NCP government in Maharashtra would expectedly flex its secular muscle for its survival in the forthcoming assembly elections, but it does not portend well as far as the silence of the Modi sarkar goes.

The game seems to have already begun. It is to be seen what role Narendra Modi plays in it.

Dr Anand Teltumbde is a writer, political analyst and civil rights activist with CPDR, Mumbai.


Kallu,

You are deliberately ignoring this post

@kalu_miah

Read date on this article and name of Author.

This person is in jail and his wife has lost Lok Sabha election from Siwan. His unified front never materialized; on the contrary, Dalits and OBC's voted for BJP in huge numbers as a result of which not even a single Muslim was elected from UP, even after constituting 19% population.

Looks like Dalits did not want this alliance and dislike muslims more than they dislike caste hindus.

Proof of pudding is in eating. This hypothetical alliance was proposed by muslims and has failed to materialized.When voting time came, dalits choose ze-ebbil BJP over pious muslim parties.

Can any one enlighten me that why Cow Belt is know as Cow belt ?

Probably because a cow lying in middle of street has been a stereotype of this Cow-Belt region since the time of Britishers and loyal English media has inherited it along with their assorted baggage of inferiority complex from Britishers.

After all it is not called gai-patti or it's assorted variation in Hindi.
 
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Writer is a third rate Idiot and Hindu hater. When Muslims in themselves can not unite, How can they unite with Dalits? Dalits are getting prosperous and integrating with hindu society like never before. Dalits have emerged as a huge block supporter of Hidutva vadi BJP. Social engineering is moving in direction of Hindus getting united and getting in direction Muslims divided. The way infighting is going on between Muslims all over the world, it is impossible that Muslims may remain as a homogeneous religious group voting for a single party. We witnessed all this in last election.

He reveals his real intention when he talks about controlling more than 50% electorate with the help of Dalits again and again. Certainly, not out of love for Dalits -- but trying to use them as cannon fodder for their religious imperialistic motives a.k.a. Caliphate. Too bad for him though, it isn't going to happen!
 
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Exactly!!! So why claim moral high ground when it comes to another social evil of casteism in Hindus? At least, casteism was never as bad as "wiping out more of each other"!

And, like you again pointed out, Hinduism and India as whole is "still going through that phase" where casteism is being eradicated right front of our own eyes!

I never claim moral high ground, we are just discussing this no? :happy:

Dalits were basically tribals and forest dwellers or wanderers and hence they were free of any duties expected of a non-forest dweller, a permanent settler. That is all that is meant by outside or out of the varna system. There is no hard and fast rule that Dalits cannot become a part of the varna system either. Every community that came to India got absorbed into the varna system and formed their own castes, likewise when Dalits get absorbed by the society they too form their distinct caste and become part of the varna system again. Dalit is a modern term and not an historic appellation.

Interesting info, did not know they lived in forests and such and that caused their exclusion.
 
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Oh! No.. I was not implying that you have a problem. I was simply extending the fact that given the sever persecution faced by minority sects like Shias and Ahamadis, it seems a little hollow to claim that in Pakistan, all converts are treated equal

Only tableegis or Sufis tend to proselytize among non Muslims in Pakistan so not really.
 
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