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How China Cooks Its Books

They have to keep the Yuan devalued otherwise If the Yuan values rises who is going to buy there exports.It is more a case of necessity

It doesn't matter if they want to keep the value of their currency low for trade. What matters is that they have that much money to by other people's debt.

If china had been cooking books since mao's time as described in the article then china would have never been able to afford to buy billions of dollars worth of T-securities which now with value so much.

Chinese are risk takers by nature if we are to use Hofstede's culture dimensions but they won't bet so much money unless they have something else to rely on.Obviously china got affected by recent losses in the western world because there main customers are the western world.

However, In future china's own people will be one of its main customers. They would be self sufficient. They will slowly be moving from export based economy and this means that they will be less and less affected by other country's economy unless they keep exporting stuff like before.This is not me saying it only but Peter Schiff said it too(the guy who predicted the recent housing bubble).
 
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Talking about "failing economy" eh. The First step towards improving the value of its currency.

Now china is buying bonds in yuans.

China’s $50bn IMF deal puts 'redback' on the world stage
Leo Lewis, Asia Business Correspondent
September 5, 2009



China is using a $50 billion (£31 billion) bond deal with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to expand the global reach and influence of its currency in what analysts say could be a potentially huge development in Beijing’s campaign to internationalise the “redback”.

For the first time, China will be using its own currency, the yuan, to buy IMF bonds — a move that senior economists confirmed as part of an accelerated programme by Beijing to “project the yuan around the world”.

That campaign, which has until now been waged only tacitly, has already seen China signing currency swap deals in South America and agreeing to lend yuan to South Korea, Malaysia and Indonesia. Recent comments from the Chinese Government suggest it is planning to rebrand Hong Kong as the future hub for offshore yuan financing. Some commodity traders believe it is only a matter of time before oil deals between the Middle East and China are transacted in yuan rather than dollars.

The IMF bond gambit could see the Chinese currency temporarily jostling its way into the foreign exchange reserves of central banks in Asia, Africa and Latin America — an intrusion that would challenge the dollar as the world’s default reserve currency.

Beijing is buying the IMF bonds as part of international support for a $500 billion emergency pool being established by the fund — money that can be drawn on to provide loans for economies still shattered by the financial crisis. On Thursday, the People’s Bank of China became the first central bank to purchase the five-year bonds, though Russia and Brazil are expected to follow suit. But, in a move that has raised eyebrows among currency-watchers, China revealed yesterday that it would pay for the bonds in its normally tightly controlled currency.

Beijing’s decision to pay such a hefty sum into the IMF fund is seen as a piece of twin geopolitical strategy.

First, it significantly enhances China’s status within the IMF, and provides Beijing with yet another avenue for assisting emerging economies around the world. The move may even serve to “acclimatise” the central banks of emerging economies to the idea of holding yuan in their reserves.

But, second, the move could also play as a public snub for the dollar. China already holds the world’s largest dollar reserves — about 60 per cent of its total foreign reserves of $2,130 billion. The purchase represents a high-profile move away from the old dollar-dominated buying strategy.

In common with the usual process of payments into the IMF, China’s new bonds will be denominated in so-called Special Drawing Rights (SDRs). What happens next to the yuan now held by the IMF, say analysts, is the crucial question.

In one scenario, it could use yuan to lend to some member countries, which might take their yuan back to China where they could be exchanged for a freely convertible currency such as the US dollar. But in another, said Wengsheng Peng, a Barclays Capital economist, the borrowing country might keep the Chinese currency and use it to buy goods from China.

“It potentially helps to promote the use of yuan as an international or even reserve currency,” he said, “although the involved amount is not large, it could send a significant signal. Some central banks who borrow from the IMF will end up holding yuan for albeit a brief period. Also, China may reach an agreement with the borrowing country on using yuan to pay for imports from China. This would help to promote the use of the yuan for trade invoicing and settlement.”

Zhang Bin, an analyst at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, said in a research note that there were several ways that the bond purchase in yuan marked a step on the road to internationalisation for the currency. The IMF could use yuan to buy assets from other financial institutions or to issue loans. “This would signify that the yuan, to a certain degree, would replace the dollar as a global reserve currency. It would be an impetus for yuan internationalisation and it would have a negative influence on international demand for the dollar.”


http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article6822804.ece
 
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Toeing the line of other BRIC countries, India today announced that it will buy bonds worth $10 billion from the International Monetary Fund. This was announced by finance minister Pranab Mukherjee who is attending the G-20 finance ministers’ meet in London. China yesterday committed to buy bonds worth $50 billion from the IMF and there have been talks that Russia and Brazil may do the same.

After the IMF bailed out India from one of its worst ever economic crisis in the 1990s, this comes as a kind of role reversal where the government would contribute to the kitty of the multi-lateral institution to revive the world economy and provide funds to needy developing nations. “However, this participation in IMF’s debt would not load India and not further stretch its resources,” an official statement said on Friday. The amount of $10 billion is in proportion to India’s current quota share at the IMF.

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A decision to raise IMF’s lendable resources to $500 billion through bilateral financing and the New Arrangements to Borrow (NAB) was taken at the G-20 summit held at London in April 2009. India’s announcement comes in the backdrop of the recent decision of the IMF announcing a framework for the issuance of notes to the official sector. The design of these Notes will allow investments to be treated as international reserves.

This would enable the Reserve Bank of India to invest a portion of its foreign exchange reserves in these financial instruments. The decision will bring India in the forefront as a significant partner in the global economic and financial framework
After China, India to buy IMF bonds worth $10 billion
China is buying $50 billion and India is buying $10 billion bonds.
Unlike china which has to keep "Yaun" undervalued India does not have to do that.
 
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Unlike china which has to keep "Yuan" undervalued India does not have to do that.

Slowly but surely china will move away from this undervalued currency strategy.The first signs can be seen in the form of the article that i posted above.
 
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Slowly but surely china will move away from this undervalued currency strategy.The first signs can be seen in the form of the article that i posted above.
Too little to late don't you think.
Eventually China will have to reevaluate its Yaun
oth of these figures are ill-conceived and downright misleading. First of all, while the Yuan could clearly stand to appreciate, the extent to which it’s undervalued is probably closer to 10-15%. A true estimate of the Yuan’s fair value must make adjustments for inflation in order to account for differences in purchasing power. As China’s economy has expanded, inflation has grown at a proportional rate, eroding the value of the Yuan. At this point, China’s ability to produce cheap goods is probably more closely related to a surplus of unskilled labor and free capital, than to an undervalued currency. Commentary: Chinese Yuan remains undervalued | Forex Blog
 
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In future china's own people will be one of its main customers. They would be self sufficient. They will slowly be moving from export based economy and this means that they will be less and less affected by other country's economy unless they keep exporting stuff like before.This is not me saying it only but Peter Schiff said it too(the guy who predicted the recent housing bubble).

That's the plan.

The Chinese are very smart and plan very long term. (One of the advantages of a non-democractic system.)

The recent Chinese resilience in the fact of the global economic downturn is evidence that China is less dependent on exports than people thought. For China, the US economy is like a temporary support strut -- dispensable once their own economy becomes self-sufficient.
 
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That's the plan.

The Chinese are very smart and plan very long term. (One of the advantages of a non-democractic system.)

The recent Chinese resilience in the fact of the global economic downturn is evidence that China is less dependent on exports than people thought. For China, the US economy is like a temporary support strut -- dispensable once their own economy becomes self-sufficient.

the point is china suffers from overcapacity and 1 billion consumers are insufficient to run the giant.Just look at its steel capacity 750 million tonnes.Recently i even heard that they are even trying to close some of them
 
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Too little to late don't you think.
Eventually China will have to reevaluate its Yuan

Thats a blog.Come on! Lets see what happens in the next 2 quarter.
 
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Does it really mater if China Cooks its Books.

We cant achieve anything by even Finding out.

None of the Pak's or Chinese will believe, but instead just insult India.

All this is China's problem, Frankly what ever happens as a result i just want to spectate. China has a good 10 - 15 years of high growth left in it. Then it will drop down to 6-7 % as its economy bottoms out(its labor force will decrease due to old age and one child policy). Before it rises up.

If they really are cooking the books then they don't have as much cash to buy new toys for their army. If the do have the cash they buy, i want to know what they are buying.

Either way there is something to watch for.

Stop this pointless debate now or the Pak's and Chinese will recite 100 reasons why India will fail. And also give us a history lesson on all our failures.
 
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Who cares if the Chinese don’t. Chinese VPM already knows this.

And prey tell who doesn’t cook the book? Only morons don’t.

Being the biggest economy and one of the most prosperous countries, US cook the book all over the place, in one way or the other.

Again, as long as it helps the bigger picture, let us all cook the book!

Yeah…! :victory:
 
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