How can Pakistan Navy defend itself from Brahmos cruse missile ?

[Arsalan]

Brahmos's range is 600Km. It is software governed and will soon be removed because we are not part of MTCR.

Brahmos is 290 KM as per official Indian statements.
You need to look that up!

 

[randomradio]

Brahmos is 290 KM as per official Indian statements.
You need to look that up!

The 290Km is governed by the guidance. The minute Brahmos touches 290Km, the warhead explodes. Now that we are part of MTCR, the guidance governed range will be removed.

This was confirmed by DRDO Chief. He said this when giving a presentation on Brahmos with a range up to 600Km and LRCM with a range that goes from 600Km to 1000km.

https://defence.pk/threads/stunning-info-about-indians-missile-projects-by-dr-saraswat.339420/

 

[Ultima Thule]

Yes they can if they can get their hands on Barak 8 or the SeaRAM. Both of them are specifically designed to meet threats like the BhraMos. And I don't think CHinese have a reliable system to do this.

yeah yeah you'r 70's era old invincible BhraMouse is world beating, and Chinese latest anti-ship missiles is junk because they are unreliable, how do you know that their system is unreliable? because they are Chinese what's logic you have what a poor little indians who lives in their fools paradise ohhhhhhhh i really scare that old, crapy, useless and over-hyped weapon

 

[satishkumarcsc]

yeah yeah you'r 70's era old invincible BhraMouse is world beating, and Chinese latest anti-ship missiles junk because they are unreliable, how do you know that their system is unreliable? because they are Chinese what's logic you have what a poor little indians who lives in their fools paradise ohhhhhhhh i really scare that old, crapy, useless and over-hyped weapon

Stop cheerleading and why don't you read about chinese weapons and what they are based on. You will understand why I tell you this.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Stop cheerleading and why don't you read about chinese weapons and what they are based on. You will understand why I tell you this.

its burns burns badly isn't Mr i know Chinese weapon development and system better than you, give me one example that Chinese weapon system is unreliable? go use the BURNOL on your a$$$$$$ its pain killer

 

[satishkumarcsc]

its burns burns badly isn't Mr i know Chinese weapon development and system better than you, give me one example that Chinese weapon system is unreliable? go use the BURNOL on your a$$$$$$ its pain killer

Only one question...DO you have it in your Arsenal?

 

[Ultima Thule]

Stop cheerleading and why don't you read about chinese weapons and what they are based on. You will understand why I tell you this.

because you have know idea how to prove that the Chinese is unreliable, go live on your fantasy world and your wet dream

Only one question...DO you have it in your Arsenal?

you are deviating from your argument, tell me how do you know that Chinese system is unreliable?

 

[Arsalan]

The 290Km is governed by the guidance. The minute Brahmos touches 290Km, the warhead explodes. Now that we are part of MTCR, the guidance governed range will be removed.

This was confirmed by DRDO Chief. He said this when giving a presentation on Brahmos with a range up to 600Km and LRCM with a range that goes from 600Km to 1000km.

https://defence.pk/threads/stunning-info-about-indians-missile-projects-by-dr-saraswat.339420/

Bro do not mix "future projects" with current capabilities just because they share a name. The initial statement was like Brahmos have 600KM range which do not have.

Thank you for clarifying it now, may be you can edit that post as well and add that Brahmos WILL HAVE 600km range!!

 

[asif_hussain]

Bro do not mix "future projects" with current capabilities just because they share a name. The initial statement was like Brahmos have 600KM range which do not have.

Thank you for clarifying it now, may be you can edit that post as well and add that Brahmos WILL HAVE 600km range!!

effective range of a missile is a very nuanced subject with multiple variables which affects the range greatly even a warhead change can increase or decrease the range the main factors always being trajectory and altitude brahmos is a very heavy missile for its class and purpose and contains lot of fuel comparing it with other missiles with similar weight its safe to extrapolate it can go upto 600 KMs in a straight line with a high altitude and low sea skimming in terminal phase (ideal scenario for enemy ships with poor air detection and defense) and go as low as 140 KMs in a full trajectory Sea skimming mode (ideal for ships with good air defenses) although the actual figures may vary but they will be in vicinity of these figures of course now if someone claiming it can go above 1000+ Kms they need to get their head checked.

besides MTCR does not apply to missiles with warhead less than 500kgs and hardly any ASHM carries that kind of warhead MTCR was built to specifically stop proliferation of nuclear capable ballistic missiles and this restriction is easily skipped by supplying the guidance and seeker tech and let the client build it in house and of course no client will limit their missile's range knowingly but yeah thats the way it is.

thats the exact same way china supplies missile to pakistan and your new coastal battery also got assembled the same way its pretty much the standard way to dodge MTCR restrictions

 

[randomradio]

Bro do not mix "future projects" with current capabilities just because they share a name. The initial statement was like Brahmos have 600KM range which do not have.

Thank you for clarifying it now, may be you can edit that post as well and add that Brahmos WILL HAVE 600km range!!

No. That's wrong. Initial version, even Brahmos Block 1 has 600Km range. They are software blocked through the guidance, which is meaningless anyway, since India made the guidance.

And there is no "future projects" for Brahmos 1. Next up is Brahmos NG and then Brahmos II.

 

[Arsalan]

No. That's wrong. Initial version, even Brahmos Block 1 has 600Km range. They are software blocked through the guidance, which is meaningless anyway, since India made the guidance.

And there is no "future projects" for Brahmos 1. Next up is Brahmos NG and then Brahmos II.

Dear you need to get all those sources updated then if you have suddenly realized the true range of the missile
ALL the sources clearly state 290 Km as range and by future projects i means Brahmos NG and II and those too have same claimed range of 290 KM. Now either you have access to some highly sensitive information or are just misguided/guiding!
Dont take my word for it,, just look it up on internet and search on the most respectable of sources if you want to. The operational range of Brahmos is 290 KM, if it is because of software of because the fuel is expensive so they just put that much in it is not what i am concerned with.

effective range of a missile is a very nuanced subject with multiple variables which affects the range greatly even a warhead change can increase or decrease the range the main factors always being trajectory and altitude brahmos is a very heavy missile for its class and purpose and contains lot of fuel comparing it with other missiles with similar weight its safe to extrapolate it can go upto 600 KMs in a straight line with a high altitude and low sea skimming in terminal phase (ideal scenario for enemy ships with poor air detection and defense) and go as low as 140 KMs in a full trajectory Sea skimming mode (ideal for ships with good air defenses) although the actual figures may vary but they will be in vicinity of these figures ofcourse now if someone claiming it can go above 1000+ Kms they need to get their head checked

Yup i understand this. Just stating what the official claims are and that is it
Surely you can fire one without a warhead to go even a little bit further but perhaps there is a good reason people mentioned operational range when talking about there systems and i think it is appropriate to use that don't you think?

 

[randomradio]

Bro do not mix "future projects" with current capabilities just because they share a name. The initial statement was like Brahmos have 600KM range which do not have.

Thank you for clarifying it now, may be you can edit that post as well and add that Brahmos WILL HAVE 600km range!!

http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...ic-super-weapon-capability/article3994856.ece
October 13, 2012

“The integration of the X-555 and BrahMos navigation systems has produced a super rocket with a sub-strategic capability above its tactical range. Fired from land, air and sea platforms, it can hit targets at ranges of 300 to 500 kilometres and is also capable of carrying a nuclear warhead,” said the unnamed Russian official.

Dear you need to get all those sources updated then if you have suddenly realized the true range of the missile
ALL the sources clearly state 290 Km as range and by future projects i means Brahmos NG and II and those too have same claimed range of 290 KM. Now either you have access to some highly sensitive information or are just misguided/guiding!
Dont take my word for it,, just look it up on internet and search on the most respectable of sources if you want to. The operational range of Brahmos is 290 KM, if it is because of software of because the fuel is expensive so they just put that much in it is not what i am concerned with.

It's open source knowledge. You are in denial.

 

[Arsalan]

http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...ic-super-weapon-capability/article3994856.ece
October 13, 2012




It's open source knowledge. You are in denial.

Yup someone sure is in denial!!

http://www.military-today.com/missiles/brahmos.htm

http://www.brahmos.com/content.php?id=10&sid=10

http://www.janes.com/article/60876/india-aims-to-supply-brahmos-cruise-missiles-to-vietnam

http://www.janes.com/article/45334/brahmos-tested-to-the-limit-id14d1

Yes it must be me as thehindu is far more reliable then janes, military today and all those other sources out there.

Just like always, debating anything with you is a futile exercise.
Looking forward for an excuse to deny all these sources,, NOT!!

 

[Ultima Thule]

Yup someone sure is in denial!!

http://www.military-today.com/missiles/brahmos.htm

http://www.brahmos.com/content.php?id=10&sid=10

http://www.janes.com/article/60876/india-aims-to-supply-brahmos-cruise-missiles-to-vietnam

http://www.janes.com/article/45334/brahmos-tested-to-the-limit-id14d1

Yes it must be me as thehindu is far more reliable then janes, military today and all those other sources out there.

Just like always, debating anything with you is a futile exercise.
Looking forward for an excuse to deny all these sources,, NOT!!

they will not understand you sir

Only one question...DO you have it in your Arsenal?

so you have no answer for me, you are nothing but just a keyboard warrior

 

[ZAC1]

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