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How can Pakistan make peace with its neighbours?

Ive never been Hong kong it looks an amazing city though, i do like my chinese food so im sure it will be right up my street. I think anywhere u go outside of South asia Pakistanis and Indians seem to get along just fine. Im a big fan of lahori style food and in London we have some really good Pakistani joints

Hows the Pakistani food in HK?
 
Ive never been Hong kong it looks an amazing city though, i do like my chinese food so im sure it will be right up my street. I think anywhere u go outside of South asia Pakistanis and Indians seem to get along just fine. Im a big fan of lahori style food and in London we have some really good Pakistani joints

Hows the Pakistani food in HK?

well if u like lahori food than you will love hong kong! and also there is a lot of faisalabad based restaurants as large part of pakistanis in Hong Kong are from faisalabad only... indian food is also quite great here, but the best is chinese food especially dim sum =)

n yes outside south asia Indians n Pakistanis get along very well because only outside South Asia we realize how closely related we r =P
 
well if u like lahori food than you will love hong kong! and also there is a lot of faisalabad based restaurants as large part of pakistanis in Hong Kong are from faisalabad only... indian food is also quite great here, but the best is chinese food especially dim sum =)

n yes outside south asia Indians n Pakistanis get along very well because only outside South Asia we realize how closely related we r =P

Man im getting hungry thinking bout all this food its like 8am here time for breakfast lol what u doing in HK bro? u studying or working there have u been there long?
 
about our allies being in the west... well... how much can we trust (for example) the USA?? we already see they are playing double games against china, they are making friendly relations with them n also at the same time they r giving taiwan weapons n we already know what mess USA is doing in our areas bordering to afghanistan with drones killing civilians.... yes they have helped us but im not sure we can trust them !! it seems that China is an ally as they have not done any harm to Pakistan (this contradict what I said earlier but here I am speaking from less religious viewpoint) perhaps we can look not only to Turkey China but also SE asia like malaysia indonesia thailand vietnam as these countries are also developing like us n they are modernizing quite quickly.....

and about India well both Pakistanis n India i think realize that peace is important if we want to be stronger..... i dont think it is far away n yes our "smart" :hitwall: politicians are focusing too much on india and not on growth of pakistan.....

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In politics there is no trust. Every country keeps their guard on vigiliance against everyone, even the most friendly ones. So we dont have to take america as a blind ally. They have their own ambitions and so do we hence co-operation naturally occur where intrests meet each other. By persuing a right forigen policy we will have an option of western as well as eastern good open all the time.

China is an all weather friends and ally but we need to make more for better international position. Natural alliances of Pakistan lies with revolutionary powers such as Turkey, Malaysia, Israel, Europe , developing block of South Asia and Far East. We have no place with religious or imperial powers. Our "revolutionary" clout is evident in South Asia without actually aiming to work hard for it. Such is the natural influence of our presence however we refuse to recocnize and build it.

the biggest threat we pose to our "big neighbour" is not millitarily or terrorism but an idealogical kind. Hence they are always attacking back with a smear campaign to show us in bad light as terrorist. we are a standing proof of peoples struggle who happen to break away and form a nation of their liking. we continue to be a source of inspiration for suppressed and under previllaged minorities. When Pakistani flag is waved in Assam or Kashmir it does not mean they want to break away and join Pakistan but these people view Pakistan as an icon of sucessfull struggle and its flag as color of their freedom.

Uforntunately we have forgetten all about our struggle and ideals and let our country be hijacked by our idealogical enemys that is mullah.
The fabric of Pakistan is incompatible with mullahism from its day of birth. For all the arab-fanboys, let the beans be spilled that Arab see strong Pakistan as a threat to their monarchy. Just like developed Turkey and post-revolution Iran continue to incite strong anti-monrachy sentiments among Arabs. They can probably digest the Turkish pill by promoting Ottomans as colonial powers and Iranians as Persian facist heretics however Pakistan has no history of colonization in Arab world hence a strong democratic Pakistan would be looked upon as role model for Arab reformists. And that is why we have been subsequently backstabbed with a smile..innocent looking religious seminaries funded by our oil rich Arab friends wreaking the worst form of religious terror on its own homeland.
 
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Man im getting hungry thinking bout all this food its like 8am here time for breakfast lol what u doing in HK bro? u studying or working there have u been there long?

hehe yes im always hungry in HK because of the great food here !! it's 3:17 here well i am originally from Faisalabad but im in HK for summer vacations for about another 2 weeks =) anyways brother i have to go now, have a good day !!
 
There is no need to talk to India - nothing ever produced by talking to India.

We are fooling ourselves by talking to Indians and thinking that justice and rationale thinking will prevail.

No Way

India is our Number 1 ENEMY.

Only one thing could succeed with India and that is WAR.

We need to prepare ourselves for Big Impending GHAZWA-A-HIND.

btw - you ppl know which kind of war is called GHAZWA !!!!
 
Hi HuiZhaiDao12, u r implying that i'm a spy and a fake Pakistani??? firstly I dont live in Hong Kong but I visit here quite often n now I'm here for summer vacations !! And because I say I would like to see Uighur independence I am a fake Pakistani?? My dear Chinese brother... you are Chinese, n you must like Dim Sums otherwise you are a fake Chinese.... see? everyone has their own opinion n if my opinion makes me a fake Pakistani than I m quite surprised !! To me China is a great ally of Pakistan because of your help and while we also support you on double front against India, I still think Uighurs can be treated better right?? that is my point of view, i just dont support violence against civilians/majority/minorirty !!



thanks for the link... #162 n #166 are exactly what I want to say !!
ok, I will apologize for the accusations of spying on you, because I really did not evidence.

I want to say is that China and Pakistan all-weather partnership is based on "peaceful coexistence", there is a "mutual non-interference in internal affairs." This is our intimate relations. This is the official position, he is unshakable. Of course, we welcome the discussion privately.

I want to note that although there are a lot of problems, In fact, China's national policy is better than all the developing countries and most developed countries. Pakistan also has a small number of Uighur. However, Pakistan has not implemented the same in China,Preferential policies toward ethnic minorities. Turkey, too.

China's ethnic policy
1, Each minority members of the regional government by its own governance,and all had a large number of fixed posts reserved for minorities, while others compete.

2, minorities do not practice family planning policy, reproductive freedom.

3, , minorities in higher education examination get huge plus, which is to protect the education measures. However, because this policy too good, so most of the Uighur little sense of competition, not enough to study in college, so after graduation into the social, not competitive, leading to preferential treatment in addition to the government to retain the post, not many job opportunities. Now the Government to take measures that the Government intervenes and affiliated enterprises, to a large number of employment opportunities. That "in Guangdong Uighur rape" case, it is the government organization to find businesses in Guangdong, from recruiting a large number of Uighurs in Xinjiang, for specialized employment policy. Although, there have been some bad things, but I believe this policy will continue.

4, there were I do not like the policy, or even preferential treatment of minorities in the criminal also, as long as you do not murder, robbery, injury, theft, etc., ethnic minorities will be a slight penalty. This policy has caused some members of minority groups (mostly Uighur) forming a criminal gang in the streets, because there is no major punishment, no fear.This is actually not a good policy, we have asked the Government to amend, but may have to wait for some time.

"7.5" is not a religious issue, because even many "hui" (China, another Muslim nation of 80%) also hurt by mob. This is a national issue within China, in-depth that is a rapidly growing number of unequal distribution of social problems, in fact, Han also has this problem, however, Han and other ethnic groups for no one to go killing ordinary civilians. Uighurs are a big problem here.

Hope that Pakistan and Muslim friends to believe that China can solve this problem, the establishment of special economic zones in Xinjiang Kashgar was our determination.

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  “新疆区域振兴规划一旦发布,预计能带动数千亿投资。”张元红对《每日经济新闻》记者表示,一些示范项目正在陆续启动,其中大部分项目集中于交通、煤炭、电力等基础设施方面。

  5月19日,为期3天的中央新疆工作座谈会在北京结束。《每日经济新闻》记者从新疆发改委有关人士处获悉,新疆区域振兴规划即将由国务院审核发布。

  随着上述振兴规划出台,新疆喀什有望建设成为开发试验区,享受经济特区的优惠政策。据新疆驻京办有关工作人员介绍,在中央新疆工作座谈会召开前夕,新任新疆党委书记张春贤于5月16日率团提前抵京。

  社科院一位人士评价说,随着新疆区域振兴规划即将出台,刚刚上任不久的张春贤,正在将资金效应带往新疆。

  新疆工作座谈会历史上首次召开

  张春贤此前接受《新疆日报》采访时指出,关于中央召开此次新疆工作座谈会的目标,是为了动员全国力量,确保新疆在2020年赶上全国其他地区的发展水平。

  《每日经济新闻》记者获悉,国务院有关部门正在制定西部地区的“一揽子新政策”,包括财政、税收等多方面。其中,新疆被提升到了一个新的建设高度。

  与此同时,国家发改委正在抓紧制订《深入实施西部大开发战略的若干意见》。通过政策引导,加大中央财政对西部地区的专项资金支持,新增中央投资重点向民生工程、生态环境、基础设施等领域倾斜。更早前,发改委发布《关于2009年西部大开发进展情况和2010年工作安排的通知》。该文件明确指出,今年将推动广西东兴、云南瑞丽、新疆喀什、内蒙古满洲里等4个重点开发试验区建设。上述实验区将享受经济特区的各项优惠政策。

  “实际上,各省市对口支援新疆已经持续了12年,但是今年中央制订了一揽子计划。”社科院农村所研究员张元红对《每日经济新闻》记者表示。他认为,今年开始的新一轮“对口援疆”将是资金投入最大、援助领域最广的一次行动。

  据介绍,中央就某一地区的工作专门召开座谈会,最早是1980年的首次西藏工作座谈会;此后,1984年、1994年、2001年和2009年分别召开了多次西藏工作座谈会。但是,这次是历史上首次召开新疆工作座谈会。

  另据新华社报道,新疆区域振兴规划将分为“2个开发阶段”。第一阶段,力争5年内使新疆特别是南疆地区经济发展明显加快、公共服务水平明显提高;第二阶段,在10年内,最大程度地缩小新疆与内地的差距,确保2020年新疆实现全面小康社会目标。

  中央、对口省份和央企“数千亿”资金涌动

  随着新疆振兴规划出台,中央将加大对新疆的财政投资;另外还有对口省份的财政支援、央企重点项目的投资,预计未来3年新疆固定资产投资额将有巨幅上升。

  “新疆区域振兴规划一旦发布,预计能带动数千亿投资。”张元红对《每日经济新闻》记者表示,一些示范项目正在陆续启动,其中大部分项目集中于交通、煤炭、电力等基础设施方面。

  据国家发改委披露,新疆将加快铁路客运专线、区际干线和煤运通道建设;同时推进口岸铁路建设。此外,在管网运输方面,新疆要加大推动油气管网、电网等能源基础设施建设。

  目前新疆在建铁路11条,并有多条铁路干线即将开建。如投资1400多亿元的兰新铁路第二双线已经开工建设,将终结新疆没有高速铁路的历史。

  到2020年,新疆路网结构将形成向东4条出疆通道,即兰新线、哈临线、青新线、新藏线;向西4条出境通道,即兰新线西段、精伊霍铁路、中吉铁路、中巴铁路;区内4个环线,即环塔里木盆地、准噶尔盆地、天山北坡、吐鲁番盆地的新疆铁路主要干线网。新疆国际能源城项目建设也已提上议事日程。初步核算,国际能源城将对新疆贡献600亿到1000亿左右的GDP。

  据新疆招商发展局统计,今年一季度,新疆招商引资到位的区外资金达129.39亿元,比上年同期增长45.89%。今年以来,神华、鲁能、兖矿、国电等10余家央企负责人再次赴疆考察,将加大投资新疆。

  据了解,最新开通的项目是,5月8日新疆广汇集团煤炭综合开发利用项目开工建设,总投资预计251亿元。(天山网 汤白露报道)
 
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May 17 to 19, the central work conference held in Beijing in Xinjiang. CPC Central Committee General Secretary and State President and CMC Chairman Hu Jintao delivered an important speech. Xinhua News Agency issuedMarch 29 to 30, the national counterpart support work in Xinjiang was held in Beijing. Xinhua News Agency reporters Liu Wei and Bing She

视频:中共中央国务院召开新疆工作座谈会Video: CPC Central Committee and State Council held a work conference in Xinjiang

Urumqi People’s Network on May 20 (Xinhua Dai Lan) highly anticipated work of the central Xinjiang forum held in Beijing. In recent days, cadres and people of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang all walks of life to pleasure each other pass this information to express to achieve leapfrog development in Xinjiang and the long-term stability of better hope.

Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region Party Secretary Zhang Chunxian stressed that “the central work conference in Xinjiang Xinjiang, the reform and opening up and socialist modernization has entered a critical period held a very important meeting. Meeting a comprehensive analysis of the situation in Xinjiang and tasks facing the work, clear the current and for a period of Xinjiang, the guiding ideology, objectives, tasks, priorities and major policies and measures for promoting long-term stability of Xinjiang leaps and bounds and has important and far-reaching impact. “Zhang Chunxian requirements, organizations at all levels and all Party members and cadres should take immediate into the state to seriously study and understand the papers, a deep understanding of its essence, combined with practical in-depth thinking, to further clarify the work under the new situation in Xinjiang the objectives and tasks, increasing the sense of responsibility, sense of urgency, sense of mission, with greater determination and more effective measures to implement the solid spirit of the conference.

“Central to work in Xinjiang is a forum that inspired people of all nationalities in Xinjiang’s meeting. The meeting brought Xinjiang construction, opening up, the historical development of major opportunity.” Regional Party Committee Standing Committee of Ministers of the Organization Yong Han said, the central government on the principles and policies in Xinjiang implement and carry out well, the key is to the region nearly 70,000 grassroots organizations, nearly 130 million members of the enthusiasm and creativity mobilized. In A Good activities to further develop grass-roots Party organizations and members of the advantages in promoting long-term stability of Xinjiang leaps and bounds and make new contributions.

Changji Hui Autonomous Region Party Secretary Li Xuejun said “the work of the forum reflects the central Xinjiang CPC Central Committee and State Council attached great importance to the work of Xinjiang and concern, once again manifests the ‘two overall’ strategic thinking and the warmth of the motherland. We need to thoroughly understand the forum on the new central Xinjiang, and further clarify the work of thinking, clear focus, with more high morale and a more pragmatic style of accomplishment of all tasks, building a more harmonious and stable Changji. ”

Working Symposium on the central Xinjiang, fully embodies the height of the CPC Central Committee of the Xinjiang attention and support. Will give assistance and to promote the power of the country to achieve great development in Xinjiang, to the people of all nationalities in Xinjiang have created unprecedented opportunities for development. Kashi Prefectural Committee, Party secretary of Kashgar, who have said, “Kashi will be ‘the east of Shenzhen, west of Kashgar’ as the goal, relying on the state approved the establishment of ‘China – Kashgar economic zones’ special support policy for East Asia, South Asia, West Asia, a vast market, accelerate the development of super-normal pace of efforts to Kashgar into a world-class international city. ”

“The Central Working Symposium of Xinjiang, bringing unprecedented opportunities for development. We both feel full of confidence, it was shoulder great responsibility.” Tacheng, deputy director of National People’s Congress Working Committee, Party Secretary Li Shiyu Tacheng said, “To policies of the central city of a domain with the reality of development strategies and ideas for the new look and improved. to emancipate the mind as a guide to reform and innovation as the driving force to guide and unite the city and give shape to a new consensus, inspire new energy and create new results. ”

Central work conference held in Xinjiang, a ray of spring breeze heart of cadres and people of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang.

Bachu County, “moved to ten people in Xinjiang” autonomous moral model A weak Zinu Rick said excitedly: “the central work conference held in Xinjiang, reflecting the cadres and the masses of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang’s care and concern, and we are excited. I have carry out all the cadres and the masses of all ethnic groups on the Xinjiang concern, care and timely transfer to farmers in the heart, so that more home care for their eyes, portrait, cherish the good situation of national unity. ”

Country to support the military model, Kuqa County, villagers 卡德尔巴克 railings, said: “Working Symposium central Xinjiang exciting. We must in accordance with the requirements of the CPC Central Committee, their duties, and resolutely fight against ethnic separatism and to crack down on illegal religious activities, and consciously safeguard the reunification of the motherland, safeguard national unity, to ensure that the border line of safety and stability of Xinjiang, Forum on the Work for the smooth implementation of create a good atmosphere. ”

Shaya County retired veteran Bao-thick something about his feelings: “As a retired veteran, witnessed the difficult process of Xinjiang, Xinjiang from the clear message on to today’s rapid development, the number of dedicated people to devote his entire life to the Xinjiang, we must treasure this hard life. I have reason to believe that the near future, Xinjiang’s economic development will be amazing, and we look forward to that day. “








We will focus on the strength of the country to develop Xinjiang's economy and solve our problems. At the same time cut off the outside black hands, no matter which country. We will not laissez-faire own weaknesses use by external enemies.
 
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Hi Pasban... I had read that from another thread I will try my best to find that thread and post the link here.... but from what I know in wars for example Afghan civil war and Afghan war (Pakistan govt supporting the USA) Iran n Pakistan were basically against each other.... Pakistan and Iran's Dysfunctional Relationship :: Middle East Quarterly this is also a good link for the problems in Pak-Iran relations

Iran has not supported India against Pakistan in their past confrontations. As for the Afghanistan theater, following the Soviet withdrawal, Iran and Pakistan found themselves at long-term strategic odds with Iran supporting the Northern Alliance and other ethnic-Tajik groups and Pakistan supporting the Pashtun-dominated Taliban. The case concerning the Taliban indeed led to a deterioration of mutual relations between the two states. In 1998-1999 Iran almost went to war against the Taliban in it's eastern border and there were border skirmishes. This however was only followed after the kidnapping of Iranian government representatives earlier.

*EDIT*: if i am not able to find that thread/post, there are also points to consider for Iran-Pakistan relations like Iran criticizing Pakistan for terrorism in southern Iran n criticizing Pakistan for supporting Balochi militants in Iran

Iran does not criticism Pakistan directly for the insurgency in it's south-western region. The insurgency actually transcends borders and is as much of a nuisance to Pakistan. The core issue that Iran has had is that militants/terrorists have been able to find safe havens across the border provided by those allied to them. Some elements within Pakistan's security or intelligence structure could be tied down with them due to corruption or other reasons. The Iranian portion of Balochistan is more tightly governed and controlled than it's much larger Pakistani counterpart hence forcing the militants to seek refuge in lower parts of Afghanistan and parts trailing the Pakistani south-western border. Whereas in Pakistan, often the ethnic card is played, in Iran the religious one is used.
 
ok, I will apologize for the accusations of spying on you, because I really did not evidence.

I want to say is that China and Pakistan all-weather partnership is based on "peaceful coexistence", there is a "mutual non-interference in internal affairs." This is our intimate relations. This is the official position, he is unshakable. Of course, we welcome the discussion privately.

I want to note that although there are a lot of problems, In fact, China's national policy is better than all the developing countries and most developed countries. Pakistan also has a small number of Uighur. However, Pakistan has not implemented the same in China,Preferential policies toward ethnic minorities. Turkey, too.

China's ethnic policy
1, Each minority members of the regional government by its own governance,and all had a large number of fixed posts reserved for minorities, while others compete.

2, minorities do not practice family planning policy, reproductive freedom.

3, , minorities in higher education examination get huge plus, which is to protect the education measures. However, because this policy too good, so most of the Uighur little sense of competition, not enough to study in college, so after graduation into the social, not competitive, leading to preferential treatment in addition to the government to retain the post, not many job opportunities. Now the Government to take measures that the Government intervenes and affiliated enterprises, to a large number of employment opportunities. That "in Guangdong Uighur rape" case, it is the government organization to find businesses in Guangdong, from recruiting a large number of Uighurs in Xinjiang, for specialized employment policy. Although, there have been some bad things, but I believe this policy will continue.

4, there were I do not like the policy, or even preferential treatment of minorities in the criminal also, as long as you do not murder, robbery, injury, theft, etc., ethnic minorities will be a slight penalty. This policy has caused some members of minority groups (mostly Uighur) forming a criminal gang in the streets, because there is no major punishment, no fear.This is actually not a good policy, we have asked the Government to amend, but may have to wait for some time.

"7.5" is not a religious issue, because even many "hui" (China, another Muslim nation of 80%) also hurt by mob. This is a national issue within China, in-depth that is a rapidly growing number of unequal distribution of social problems, in fact, Han also has this problem, however, Han and other ethnic groups for no one to go killing ordinary civilians. Uighurs are a big problem here.

Hope that Pakistan and Muslim friends to believe that China can solve this problem, the establishment of special economic zones in Xinjiang Kashgar was our determination.



well from reading the ethnic policy n the article provided i guess i can come to conclusion that minorities in china are definitely better treated in pakistan india n perhaps all of south asia in general as a whole...... (thanks for the article as well) but i still think huizhaodao like the big news this week in HK is about "Zhuang" people fighting with "Han" in "Guangxi" region.... so while these ethnic minority policies r much better than maybe what we have in Pakistan (where by the way there are MANY more ethnic fights....), there is still time to time confrontations.... but i m not surprised because china is such a huge country with so many ethnicities around 53 i think so perhaps this will naturally happen from time to time !!
 
Iran has not supported India against Pakistan in their past confrontations. As for the Afghanistan theater, following the Soviet withdrawal, Iran and Pakistan found themselves at long-term strategic odds with Iran supporting the Northern Alliance and other ethnic-Tajik groups and Pakistan supporting the Pashtun-dominated Taliban. The case concerning the Taliban indeed led to a deterioration of mutual relations between the two states. In 1998-1999 Iran almost went to war against the Taliban in it's eastern border and there were border skirmishes. This however was only followed after the kidnapping of Iranian government representatives earlier.

hi Pasban sorry about my mistake there then !! i did think from reading some other trend that Iran directly helped India but my bad =)



Iran does not criticism Pakistan directly for the insurgency in it's south-western region. The insurgency actually transcends borders and is as much of a nuisance to Pakistan. The core issue that Iran has had is that militants/terrorists have been able to find safe havens across the border provided by those allied to them. Some elements within Pakistan's security or intelligence structure could be tied down with them due to corruption or other reasons. The Iranian portion of Balochistan is more tightly governed and controlled than it's much larger Pakistani counterpart hence forcing the militants to seek refuge in lower parts of Afghanistan and parts trailing the Pakistani south-western border. Whereas in Pakistan, often the ethnic card is played, in Iran the religious one is used.

but back in around october Ahmadinejad directly blamed Pakistan for terrorist attacks n hosting JundAllah terrorists.... links r here : Attack plotted in Pakistan: Ahmadinejad | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online and BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iran accuses Pakistan over attack

but as u said this may be due to Pakistan not having control of Balochistan n so we cant track down on terrorists.. Also corruption is top priority for our country's politicians so they r most probably helping JundAllah for their own benefit for sure...
 
There is no need to talk to India - nothing ever produced by talking to India.

We are fooling ourselves by talking to Indians and thinking that justice and rationale thinking will prevail.

No Way

India is our Number 1 ENEMY.

Only one thing could succeed with India and that is WAR.

We need to prepare ourselves for Big Impending GHAZWA-A-HIND.

btw - you ppl know which kind of war is called GHAZWA !!!!

yes i know wt Ghazwa means brother n really i dont like it when we mix Religion n Violence together.... Ghazwa e Hind is never going to happen because it is IMPOSSIBLE.... lets admit it here... India is MUCH bigger than Pakistan.... by the time Pakistan takes up all of India there might only be one man left and he will be the ulloo ka patha PM..... 170 mln VS 1.1 billion... please... be serious now n be realistic.... we are in the 21st century where DIPLOMACY is used to solve issues not wars brother...:pakistan:
 
well from reading the ethnic policy n the article provided i guess i can come to conclusion that minorities in china are definitely better treated in pakistan india n perhaps all of south asia in general as a whole...... (thanks for the article as well) but i still think huizhaodao like the big news this week in HK is about "Zhuang" people fighting with "Han" in "Guangxi" region.... so while these ethnic minority policies r much better than maybe what we have in Pakistan (where by the way there are MANY more ethnic fights....), there is still time to time confrontations.... but i m not surprised because china is such a huge country with so many ethnicities around 53 i think so perhaps this will naturally happen from time to time !!

Some Hong Kong media is a joke, there is freedom but totally irresponsible, China has 1.3 billion people, any people's struggle will be some people enlarge the purpose as "ethnic conflict", for example, I and a common minority Students fight, only fighting between the two students, and some people want something, "han and hui" conflict, he is only an issue between two people, there is no relationship between national identity. Similarly, in remote areas, the two villages for water and some other issues have fights, and immediately becomes "X X nation and X X nation conflict." In fact, that is not related to national identity , only because of the water (or other unimportant things) between the two villages of small conflicts. Only a "need", he is "ethnic conflict."

And I said before, Hong Kong is a good place, ordinary people love this country, however, because the colonial history, Hong Kong, hidden in the dark foreign forces, comprador and various espionage (industrial espionage, political spies - United Kingdom, Taiwan , CIA, Christianity, etc.), even control of several media, we are committed to "50 years no change ", to keep the media "freedom", there is no way temporary. That we are clear, but the Pakistani friends may not know. Hong Kong has some of the Western forces, please be more careful.
 
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By the way, Hong Kong is a good place for tourism, good shopping, you can have a pleasant memory. Have a nice trip.
 
Some Hong Kong media is a joke, there is freedom but totally irresponsible, China has 1.3 billion people, any people's struggle will be some people enlarge the purpose as "ethnic conflict", for example, I and a common minority Students fight, only fighting between the two students, and some people want something, "han and hui" conflict, he is only an issue between two people, there is no relationship between national identity. Similarly, in remote areas, the two villages for water and some other issues have fights, and immediately becomes "X X nation and X X nation conflict." In fact, that is not related to national identity , only because of the water (or other unimportant things) between the two villages of small conflicts. Only a "need", he is "ethnic conflict."

And I said before, Hong Kong is a good place, ordinary people love this country, however, because the colonial history, Hong Kong, hidden in the dark foreign forces, comprador and various espionage (industrial espionage, political spies - United Kingdom, Taiwan , CIA, Christianity, etc.), or control of several media, we are committed to "50 years", to keep the media "freedom", there is no way temporary. That we are clear, but the Pakistani friends may not know. Hong Kong has some of the Western forces, please be more careful.

Yes actually when i saw the news it was only about how the factory owner and workers are Han n the residents are "Zhuang"... n they r fighting because of pollution levels, not because of Han vs Zhuang or anything... but the english news (i dont understand Chinese =[) which had a british reporter was saying that Hans are attacking Zhuangs and Zhuangs are taking revenge etc... there are many Westerners in HK n from what I've seen so far they are all super rich... all the english newspaper (i like to read newspapers) have british/american/western journalists who seem biased against China... thats y im not surprised my cousin (he lives here permanently) said that many HK-ers dont want Chinese control and a few even want complete independence from China :rofl::rofl::rofl: :no:

By the way, Hong Kong is a good place for tourism, good shopping, you can have a pleasant memory. Have a nice trip.

i am loving HK... the food here is amazing, pakistani, indian, chinese, n western; everything is great n not too expensive... and for shopping it is like there is a mall everywhere!! and the products r great quality and reasonable price !! =) HK is a really beautiful city... people r really nice... i think HK is the only city where Pakistanis, Indians, and Chinese all get along with each other XD :partay:
 

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