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How Britain Stole $45 Trillion from Pakistan, Bangladesh & India with Trains

I understand your point and tbh I don't know how the calculation worked. However, you are not factoring in the direct impact of looted wealth on the economies of Anglo-America.

You say the 45trillion ignores the growth of the Western economy however those economies didn't grow in a vacuum but at least partly from a foundation of looted wealth, piracy and slavery.

It's actually a very hard calculation to make accurately but it must be very high in real terms.

The $45T figure is definitely BS.

Conquest and looting happens throughout human history. It's not sufficient to explain why India is still poor today.

Japan's population is 1/10 of India, has little natural resources, major cities got devastated in WWII, and yet they are the 3rd largest economy in the world today.

India's GDP PPP is larger than China's when the British left in 1947 despite that China's population size was 1.5x of India at that time, and India's nominal GDP per capita was ahead of China most of the time until the early 1990s. Yet, China's nominal GDP per capita is 5x of India's today.

Whose fault? The British? Do you see the Chinese blaming the Japanese for their backwardness in the last century?


 
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I agree with the first part of your statement, but I think we do an injustice by calling it Mughal India, it was the Mughal empire, plus the region had other independent kingdoms, as well as those that were under the protection of the Mughals, but independent never-the-less.

These nuances and differentiation are important, otherwise, we keep feeding their fantasies of ancient India. I've used the term myself and still do out of habit. I stopped using it when I looking it to it, the history says otherwise. If they had adopted the term Bharat or Hindustan for their country then we could use the term India, because they have taken the India name to describe their country, intellectually speaking they have mudded our history, so how we use the term India historically has to be accurately used, otherwise, my/our history gets maligned.

In terms of the amount of money taken, it is mainly used to trump up the Indian nationalism and hard to justify historically. They have also left behind a legacy, and it is a bit pointless to cry about it to drum up nationalism. And, for sake of fair historical analysis, that has not been done as yet.

Ripe apart the Indian railway system and see how much it would cost to build, that's value. There are also various arguments there, but the point I am trying to make is that the Indians look at it too simplistically to drum up sense of nationhood, which is shallow and unfair.

Then which nations lost how much, Bengalis were the most to suffer, that's not India, it was Bengal. Other areas lost not so much, so again it goes back to the points that this is an unfair assessment, purely designed for sake of modern Indian nationalism.
Agreed. It is a difficult habit to get out of, referring to Bharat as "India". It totally skews and misrepresents numerous interacting timelines and empires as you've pointed out.
 
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The $45T figure is definitely BS.

Conquest and looting happens throughout human history. It's not sufficient to explain why India is still poor today.

Japan's population is 1/10 of India, has little natural resources, major cities got devastated in WWII, and yet they are the 3rd largest economy in the world today.

India's GDP PPP is larger than China's when the British left in 1947 despite that China's population size was 1.5x of India at that time, and India's nominal GDP per capita was ahead of China most of the time until the early 1990s. Yet, China's nominal GDP per capita is 5x of India's today.

Whose fault? The British? Do you see the Chinese blaming the Japanese for their backwardness in the last century?


Again some good points. However I don't think China and Japan are reasonable analogies though for various reasons. Japan especially had a huge economic recovery package post-ww2. China has surpassed all expectations. Fair play to them.
 
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Again some good points. However I don't think China and Japan are reasonable analogies though for various reasons. Japan especially had a huge economic recovery package post-ww2. China has surpassed all expectations. Fair play to them.

And billions of aid are poured into Africa EVERY year, so? Those recovery packages are just short-term catalysts, without them Japan would still develop regardless.

Ultimately it depends on human resources; eg, the productivity levels of the ordinary worker and their capacity to learn new knowledge and skills. That's why you see mainland China, Taiwan, HK, SK, Japan, and Singapore experiencing rapid growth in a short period amount of time despite having little natural resources. Coincidental?
 
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How Britain Ripoff India through its railways.
The saga of Independence. How it was botched by the Britain.
The death of millions in Bengal due to WWII.
Churchill's remarks.

Map of Pakistan is wrong. We must sue for that
 
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Map of Pakistan is wrong. We must sue for that

Agreed , for far too long Pakistan has accepted wrong map of India and Pakistan.
Most of the west shows all of Kashmir with India, which is wrong. It is a disputed territory according to the UN resolutions.

Pakistan should have been making noises and calling the organisations to account for decades.
But like every other things, our politicians and administrators had been coy to stand up for their own rights and country.
 
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