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March is only large-scale commemoration for the dissident in China, with Hong Kong maintaining freedoms non-existent elsewhere



Protesters in Hong Kong carrying candles in a march to mourn the death of Nobel Peace laureate Liu Xiaobo. Photograph: Bobby Yip/Reuters

Sunday 16 July 2017 04.04 BST Last modified on Sunday 16 July 2017 06.13 BST

Thousands of mourners marched through the heart of Hong Kong in a candlelight vigil for Chinese Nobel peace prize laureate Liu Xiaobo, sending a powerful message to Beijing as it tries to erase his legacy.

Liu died on Thursday at the age of 61, less than a month after he was diagnosed with liver cancer, and his ashes were scattered in the sea in a highly scripted ceremony tightly controlled by the Chinese government.

The Hong Kong rally is the only large-scale commemoration for Liu on Chinese soil. The semi-autonomous city maintains a wide range of freedoms that are non-existent in mainland China, and several newspapers in the city splashed Liu’s portrait on their front pages.

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Besides mourning Liu, many called for the release of his wife Liu Xia, who despite never being accused of a crime has been kept under house arrest since her husband won the Nobel peace prize in 2010.

At the front of the march was Lee Cheuk-yan, a former lawmaker of 20 years, carrying a banner calling for Liu’s spirit to inspire people. The four white Chinese characters painted on a black cloth was a replica of a banner hoisted by student protesters in Tiananmen Square in 1989, an event that Liu flew back to China to join.

“We’re here to tell [Chinese president] Xi Jinping that Hong Kong people will continue to fight in the spirit of Liu Xiaobo,” Lee said. “The way the funeral was controlled by the Communist party, it’s very sad to say that Liu Xiaobo cannot be free even in death. But now we must free Liu Xia, because she has already suffered so much.”

In China, many do not even know Liu’s name, the result of a massive government censorship campaign that has scrubbed nearly all messages of support from Chinese websites and social media. Mass rallies are extremely rare, with police quick to break up even small gatherings.

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“The Beijing regime is so callous, they don’t care what anyone thinks and their treatment of Liu Xiaobo proves that,” said Claudia Mo, a pro-democracy lawmaker. “We need to show Beijing and the rest of the world that Hong Kong people will not be silent in the face of injustice.”

“Beijing has this parental mentality, demanding obedience from Liu Xia: they tell her not to speak, not to go abroad,” Mo added. “But she must be set free.”

The march saw mourners wind through downtown Hong Kong, bringing a district usually bustling with partygoers out on a Saturday evening to a near standstill. For many it was a family affair with parents bringing their young children.

Confused tourists from mainland China asked police what was the purpose of the march, and responded with blank stares after hearing Liu’s name.

“Is he a bookstore owner?” one man asked, probably referring to the abduction of five Hong Kong publishers in late 2015 by Chinese authorities.

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But barely anyone recognised the old man marching alone in running shorts, sandals and a blue hat featuring a United Nations logo as Lam Wing-kee, one of the missing booksellers who skipped bail and went public with his account of months spent in police custody.

“I was incredibly sad at the end of his death, but you cannot depend on one person to bring democracy to China,” Lam said. “Although a great icon has fallen, there will be 50 people ready to take his place.

“Democracy in China isn’t about one day, one event or one person, this view is too pessimistic,” he added. “Look at the long-term and you will see that it make take generations, but there will democracy.”

The government’s treatment of Liu is a troubling sign for many Hong Kong people agitating for greater democratic rights in the former British colony, and is a symbol of an authoritarian state unwilling to bend even with a dissident on his deathbed.

“It’s a huge contrast between Xi Jinping and Liu Xiaobo. Liu said ‘I have no enemies’, that he wanted to use love to conquer hate and all he wanted was democracy. The way Xi Jinping treated Liu Xiaobo is a lesson to how he will treat the more than seven million people in Hong Kong,” Lee said. “We need more of Liu Xiaobo’s spirit, his unceasing fight for democracy, here in Hong Kong.”

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The vigil ended at Beijing’s main presence in Hong Kong, an imposing skyscraper topped with a black glass sphere, where a makeshift memorial had been built. Black and white portraits of Liu were surrounded by white chrysanthemums, a symbol of mourning in Chinese culture.

Mourners signed their names in a memorial book and bowed three times, before being hastily moved along by police.

For Jennifer Lui, it was important to register her grief, hoping speak for those in China who did not have a voice.

“The way the Chinese government treated him and the pain it inflicted on him and his family just for writing words and talking about democracy, all this proves he deserved the Nobel prize,” said Lui, 27, a graduate student. “His words, his actions are all about peace, but the Chinese government only knows how to be violent.”

At several points heavy rains soaked the marchers, with some ducking under shop awnings for cover before continuing.

But Lui, a devout Christian, had a different view of Hong Kong’s unpredictable weather: “You see, God is crying for Liu Xiaobo and Liu Xia.”
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But Lui, a devout Christian, had a different view of Hong Kong’s unpredictable weather: “You see, God is crying for Liu Xiaobo and Liu Xia.”

These Westernized Christians as well as their American masters are trying to bring an "Arab Spring" to China. They want to turn us into the Middle East or India.

Luckily the HK Government which I voted for is pro-Beijing, not pro-America.
 
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These Westernized Christians as well as their American masters are trying to bring an "Arab Spring" to China. They want to turn us into the Middle East or India.

Luckily the HK Government which I voted for is pro-Beijing, not pro-America.

NGO and missionaries. I think china should kidnap them and make them work in hard labour.
Dont let them fool you with bull shi t democrazy they have thier hard labour camps (fema)too and guatanimo bay torture centre.

http://occasionalplanet.org/2015/12/01/u-s-companies-make-a-killing-off-prison-slave-labor/
 
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Good riddance.i have zero respect for traitors like Liu Xiaobo, the colonial running dog of the US of A. When you know what this bastard wanted you'd be pissed too. He wanted China to remain colonized by the gang of western nations for 300 years. Basically he wanted chinese to be enslaved essentially forever. 99% of Chinese hate his guts. Now its clear why white people love this guy.
personally, national traitor scum like liu xiaobo should be made an example in public, in the media, then executed. Too bad Chinese media power is very weak, unlike Western media which is the master at the art of propaganda and deception.

I would even take it a step further and gather all the Liu Xiaobo's out there, group all these colonial running dogs together put their asses on hard manual labor 20hrs a day. Or send them all to the USA where they can all milk the US government for money.
 
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This clearly shows that One Country, Two System is working and China respects Hong Kong's rights under the common laws.

I would prefer One Country One System, I want the Mainland laws here in Hong Kong.

The only good thing about the political situation in Hong Kong is that it will show the majority of Chinese people in the world (Mainlanders) how dangerous this Westernized "Democratization" process is. Just take a look at the democracies in the developing world (i.e. in Africa, the Middle East and South Asia) to see why America wants to bring an "Arab Spring" to China. They want to achieve the same thing with China that they achieved with the Arab Spring, i.e. collapse and civil war.

Economic development must come first, political liberalization is something that can wait until the next few decades. And it must be done in a Chinese way, not in a Western way.
 
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I would prefer One Country One System, I want the Mainland laws here in Hong Kong.

The only good thing about the political situation in Hong Kong is that it will show the majority of Chinese people in the world (Mainlanders) how dangerous this Westernized "Democratization" process is. Just take a look at the democracies in the developing world (i.e. in Africa, the Middle East and South Asia) to see why America wants to bring an "Arab Spring" to China. They want to achieve the same thing with China that they achieved with the Arab Spring, i.e. collapse and civil war.

Economic development must come first, political liberalization is something that can wait until the next few decades.

They have an caste slave, the ones that call them selves shining democrazy, next door to china. They will do the dirty work for western imperialist. China watch your back, they trying desperately these days. The devaluation of dollar is driving the beast nations crazy.
 
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I would prefer One Country One System, I want the Mainland laws here in Hong Kong.

As long as few minority in HK doesn't undermine China's soverenigty, security and interests then they can do whatever they want. But China should cultivate the mean and ability to stump out those step over the red line.
 
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For those who are in democracy fever, what's the real purpose of inviting democracy or freedom to China? Isn't it to make this country more prosperous? more independent from western economic and spiritual controls? more powerful in military to free our people from bully? and to make people have safe and wealthy lives?

Well that is where it is now for China. CCP has made the dream become real. Or at least China is on the way heading to it now. Why would we give up already achieved goals and proven right path to success, in turn to risk all the odds to make democracy experiment in China?

Never forget your original intention. Don't be fooled and used by China haters. Democracy is just a tool, no need to worship it.
 
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For those who are in democracy fever, what the real purpose of inviting democracy or freedom to China? Isn't it to make this country more prosperous? more independent from western economic and spiritual controls? more powerful in military to free our people from bully? and to make people have safe and wealthy lives?

Well that is where it is now for China. CCP has made the dream real. Or at least China is on the way leading to it now. Why would we give up already achieved goal in turn to risk all the odds to make democracy experiment in China?

Never forget your original intention. Don't be fooled and used by China haters. Democracy is just a tool, no need to worship it.
All those Chinese Hater with a lot calling us "支那” wanting to free China?That sounds so logical.
 
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Bunch of crying loud spoiled kids, all they want was Western style democrazy which fakes and destructive, look Mid-East now, only serve Western interest. Free? This 'kids' need to learn hard fact there's NOTHING really free, beside they FREE to go anywhere as refugee out of China. No freedoms in China? What they do now? They can mourning and say sh*t protest like that in China, why they don't try it at North Korea? They had too much time, just send them to hard work at tough area.
 
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Well, democracy is a political and social norm that worked for the west, well all of us assume it worked. The truth is these so called democratic and free westerners are living in delusion, controlled by the high ranking political families and the banking families! they fail to see that even their free media is under the control of some hidden organization and spouts off nonsense propaganda everyday!
Yes west is developed both economically and militarily, so we assume that democracy has paid off. But, China is also developed now, so we can assume the Chinese socio-political communism and economic capitalism that's very different from the late Soviet Union has also paid off!!
The reason is simple I think, we Asians are different from westerners. So, our thinking, habits and perspective is different from them. We should make different choices that will suit our interests and achieve the desired outcome, as is in the case of China! China didn't blindly follow Soviet communism, it invented a new side of communism that has achieved so much!
As for US politicians and media, all day they cry about democracy this democracy that! But, at the end of the day they are best friends with the most undemocratic bunch the 'Arabs'! why don't they preach democracy to the arabs?! However, they criticize every single thing about China which is a far more democratic country than the Arabs with it's unique communism! US and western hypocrisy knows no bounds!!!
 
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I wonder how some of the chinese citizens support the Zionist Planed destabilization of China... Low IQ scums.
 
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