Hong Kong police fire warning shots during Mong Kok fishball 'riot'

[Jlaw]

This was what the western want, HK Police is capable enough to handle those rioters. Those Rioters were organized and prepared, I suspect this was not a random riot and protest.

China government is to blame. They allow too many NGOs , now they are out of control. The new laws for NGO will be quite useless as they already have a strong footfold in HK and China.
100 years from now or sooner when the CPC collapse, future historian will use Jlaw and @Beidou2020 's quotes that predicted the downfall of the CPC due to their inability to curb out foreign infiltration.
What's the big deal of building aircraft carriers, HGV, etc when you can't even stop the real threat which are NGO and organized religion from destroying your own country.

The CIA office in Hong Kong must be real busy in the past year organizing and using Hongkies like pawns

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

China government is to blame. They allow too many NGOs , now they are out of control. The new laws for NGO will be useless as they already have a strong footfold in HK and China.
100 years from now or sooner when the CPC collapse, future historian will use Jlaw and @Beidou2020 's quotes that predicted the downfall of the CPC due to their inability to curb out foreign infiltration.
What's the big deal of building aircraft carriers, HGV, etc when you can't even stop the real threat which are NGO and organized religion from destroying your own country.

The CIA office in Hong Kong must be real busy in the past year organizing and using Hongkies like pawns

Hmm...maybe all the CIA has to do is open a bigger office in Beijing and within a few months with their awesome magic they will have so many pawns they can overthrow your government.

You really should fear their all-powerful mind control weapons. A certain Pakistani member here posts about it (let me dig that thread up) Your people will have no free-will anymore.

Read up about it here from somebody with first hand experience Machinations of American Embassy in Pakistan

 

[syed1]

Hong Kong police have shown quite restrain during the riot, even when rioters were hitting them with bins and other shits. If this was Bangladeshi Riot Police and would get attacked in such a way, these rioters would never ever dare to make another riot in their life again.

 

[yantong1980]

Orchestrated by foreign power, seems they try to create 'sphere' that Hong Kong not belong to China. China, Russia and any other countries should cooperate to tackle this 'color revolution' regime changing style. Cooperation like this will make West cry they beloved regime changing method debunked everywhere.

 

[bbccdd1470]

China government is to blame. They allow too many NGOs , now they are out of control. The new laws for NGO will be quite useless as they already have a strong footfold in HK and China.
100 years from now or sooner when the CPC collapse, future historian will use Jlaw and @Beidou2020 's quotes that predicted the downfall of the CPC due to their inability to curb out foreign infiltration.
What's the big deal of building aircraft carriers, HGV, etc when you can't even stop the real threat which are NGO and organized religion from destroying your own country.

The CIA office in Hong Kong must be real busy in the past year organizing and using Hongkies like pawns

I cant comment about the NGO activities in China since I do not have the first hand experience. However, HK is a different story since HK had been a colony of British for more than hundred years. HK was already western strong foothold before return to China. Many politicians, journalists and educators are pro western. Many people like me suspect those people especially politicians, are working with the CIA or American gov't, since many pictures and bank statements had been revealed in 2014 to show that they indeed received money from someone who is known as very pro-western. Again we do not have concrete evidence. What I want to say is the West already have strong influence in all Politics, Media and Education sector, so get rid of NGO alone is not enough.

 

[Jlaw]

I cant comment about the NGO activities in China since I do not have the first hand experience. However, HK is a different story since HK had been a colony of British for more than hundred years. HK was already western strong foothold before return to China. Many politicians, journalists and educators are pro western. Many people like me suspect those people especially politicians, are working with the CIA or American gov't, since many pictures and bank statements had been revealed in 2014 to show that they indeed received money from someone who is known as very pro-western. Again we do not have concrete evidence. What I want to say is the West already have strong influence in all Politics, Media and Education sector, so get rid of NGO alone is not enough.

It's a start and need to start quickly. HK laws allow foreign pedophiles, separatists and trouble maker to work and roam freely. Look at guys like Braedon Links a Canadian trouble maker who was part of the Umbrella protests. He make no excuses but I think besides teaching English in HK, he is being financed by other pro western groups to destabilize HK.

 

[bbccdd1470]

I understand your point, but banning NGO is unreachable, since this is hard to reach consensus in the public and not to mention we have many politicians who work closely with the CIA. I can say this kind of law is not going to pass in the legislative. Moreover, we have a very strong anti-china sentiment among the younger people, who is against everything that is related to China no matter right or wrong. In a clear way to say that the West influence is already here, who have control on the local media and many politicians in the legislative, therefore, passing regulation to against their influence is unachievable.

 

[Jlaw]

I understand your point, but banning NGO is unreachable, since this is hard to reach consensus in the public and not to mention we have many politicians who work closely with the CIA. I can say this kind of law is not going to pass in the legislative. Moreover, we have a very strong anti-china sentiment among the younger people, who is against everything that is related to China no matter right or wrong. In a clear way to say that the West influence is already here, who have control on the local media and many politicians in the legislative, therefore, passing regulation to against their influence is unachievable.

It was the stupidity of Beijing govt that promised HK laws will not be untouch for 50 years after '97. You probably cannot ban NGO but you can make it harder for new ones to establish and create laws that will heavily penalize NGO leaders for inciting separatist activities and espionage.

But you are right that HK legislative are filled with running dogs. I find that people who have been colonized tend to have that inferior mentality. The HK people who are against protesters are too cowardly to come out and go against the protesters.

 

[Ewok6102]

Rioters went bananas instigated by 本土民主前線

Very accurate post, I hope more people understand the real situation and do not fool by some media.

The riot was planned and put in place well in advance. All they needed was an excuse and they got it when health and safety officers cracked down on hawkers without permit.

Vehicles were spotted off loading supplies for the rioters and some rioters came with home made shields. Commication devices were confiscated at suspect's addresses, members of the occupy and umbrella movement were also spotted amongst the rioters.

"被捕者有15名學生，當中3人是港大生、2人是中大生、1人讀公開大學，亦有3名中學生，另外被捕者亦包括本土民主前線發言人梁天琦、學民思潮成員林淳軒、曾活躍於於fb專頁「革新衛民」的鄧梓聰、佔旺區美國隊長容偉業、港大《學苑》候任總編輯顧博謙、「熱血公民」成員柏洋，以及其他活躍於fb專頁「生於亂世」、「青民起動」、「香港獨立 全民自決」等人士。"

旺角暴亂：警控38人暴動罪　首次引用控港人 - 東網即時

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Timeline and map: how the Mong Kok street hawker hygiene clampdown became a full-scale riot | South China Morning Post

Timeline and map: how the Mong Kok street hawker hygiene clampdown became a full-scale riot
Running street battles, gunshots, open fires, clouds of pepper spray and a hail of bricks

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Protesters throw bricks as police try to disperse the crowd during the riot in Mong Kok. Photo: Edward Wong

10.00pm – Police engage in the first standoff at Portland Street after some people – upset about the Food and Environmental Hygiene Department’s clampdown on hawkers – appeared to have blocked a taxi from leaving the street. But the police leave shortly after. And the crowds continue to queue for street food.


11.45pm – Police return with a portable podium, which sparks anger in the crowd. In the ensuing standoff, pepper spray and police batons are used, while the crowd responds by throwing objects like water bottles back.

The Mong Kok New Year riot mapped

12.00am – Police begin to clear Portland Street after their offer to let the hawking continue peacefully fails. The crowd grows angrier and people start throwing glass bottles, stones and pellets.


2.05am – A policemen fires two gunshots into the air close to Argyle Street, as the crowd is now fended off. The scene descends into chaos as protesters engage in scuffles and fighting with the police and toss glass bottles and rubbish bins at them. Some protesters, on the other hand, start accusing police of using excessive force.

2.16am – HK Indigenous representative Edward Leung Tin-kei is arrested, according to a Facebook post by the group.

3.00am – Standoff subsequently moves to Nathan Road, which is later blocked. Protesters again throw glass bottles and bricks at the police.


4.00am – The first of the multiple fires starts at Sai Yeung Choi Street South, followed by three more that are later ignited on the same street. Protesters set up more fires at various spots throughout the early hours of the morning.

LIVE @SCMP_News: Fire alight in the middle of Sai Yeung Choi South St, #MongKok (4.21am) pic.twitter.com/cQcsZzth7A

— Chris Lau (@hkchrislau) February 8, 2016

7.15am – Following yet another long standoff, protesters are dispersed at Soy Street near Fa Yuen Street after police officers in Police Tactical Unit uniform are deployed.

8.45am – Streets calmed as cleaners move in to sweep away bricks and bottles from street fights.

9.45am – Mong Kok MTR station reopens

 

[Aepsilons]

Two questions :

1. Who are the protesters?

2. What is their agenda ?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Hong Kong courtroom packed as 37 face rioting charges and are banned from entering parts of Mong Kok | South China Morning Post

Hong Kong courtroom packed as 37 face rioting charges and are banned from entering parts of Mong Kok
Defendants, including Hong Kong Indigenous spokesman Edward Leung and Undergrad magazine editor-to-be Stephen Ku, charged with one count of rioting. Some tell court police used excessive force during arrests

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Four police buses ferrying the defendants arrived before 9am. Photo: Edward Wong
The first of the 37 defendants charged in connection with a Mong Kok Riot on Tuesday has appeared before a magistrate at Kowloon City Court, and was barred from entering parts of Mong Kok as he was granted bail.

Senior Assistant Director of Public Prosecution David Leung Cheuk-yin SC asked the court to impose an injunction on clerk Ho Siu-cheung on the grounds of public safety.

Ho, 21, charged with one count of rioting, was the first to appear in Kowloon City Court on Thursday. He is accused of participating in a riot between February 8 and 9 in Mong Kok.

Ho has been barred from setting foot in an area near Fai Yuen Street, Dundas Street and Shanghai street.

READ MORE: Localist group in Mong Kok violence unlikely to make headway in Hong Kong political arena
Leung asked for the case to be adjourned to April 7.

“This is for further police enquiries and legal advice,” he said.

Other defendants who have appeared so far have faced the same charge and injunction. Their case was also adjourned to the same day.

Those charged include activist group Hong Kong Indigenous spokesman Edward Leung Tin-kei, who is running for the upcoming Legislative Council by-election, and Stephen Ku Bok-him, the editor-to-be of Hong Kong University’s student magazine Undergrad

The other defendants are: Sung Kwun-wo, Sit Tat-wing, Kenny Wong Hok-shun, Kenny Chan Ao-tien, Cheung Chin-to, Tam Hiu-Tung, Mok Pak-hin, Lin Yun-fat, Wong Sai-kit, Li Cheuk-hin, Chan Koon-ki, Tang King-chung, Wong Ho-sing, Leo Chan Siu-kwan, Sit Kwun-fai, Lee Sin-yi, Lai Man-tsun, Chan Hei-man, Philip Tsang Chiu-yu, Leung Tin-kei, Lee Nok-man, Li Pui-ho, Ken Lo Kin-man, Chan Cheuk-hin, Chan Pak-yeung, Ng Ting-kai, Churk Ling-hon, Tsang Kin-hang, Chan Ho-man, Hui Ka-ki, Mak Tsz-hei, Stephen Ku Bok-him, Chan Wo-cheung and Mo Jia-tao.

Photographers snapping pictures while suspects are escorted to Kowloon City Court. Photo: Edward Wong

In court, some defendants complained police had resorted to excessive force during arrests.

Through his lawyer Chris Ng, defendant Chan Yu-kei said he faced violent treatment from police officers, who ganged up on him and beat him up on the night of the incident.

“He was hit in the head with police batons, resulting in blood all over his face,” Ng said of his client, who had his forehead covered in bandages.

Ng also said another defendant he represented, Lin Yun-fat, told him that police kept him awake for 40 hours before they took his statement. Lin was allegedly told he would be charged with attending an illegal assembly before the statement was taken.

Acting chief magistrate Peter Law Tak-chuen noted Lin’s complaints as inducement, but he said the court would not take note of Chan’s complaint because the court was independent from the police.

After the hearing, defendants on bail began leaving the courthouse police cell in batches. They were escorted away by groups of their supporters, some in hoods and wearing masks, as an enormous press pack gave chase through the streets.

Suspects facing charges connected to the Mong Kok riot arrive at the Kowloon City Magistrates' Court. Photo: Edward Wong

The case attracted a lot of attention from the public, with the Kowloon City courtroom becoming packed just minutes after it opened its doors on Thursday morning.

More than 100 people gathered at the fifth floor of Kowloon City Court before entry to the courtroom that was expected to hear the defendants’ cases was allowed at 9.15am. The court’s public gallery seats were filled in less than three minutes.

It was not immediately clear whether the crowd was composed of supporters of the defendants, but at least one person was spotted wearing a black surgical mask.

Among the crowd, there were activists, including Scholarism convenor Joshua Wong Chi-fung, University of Hong Kong’s student union president Billy Fung Jing-en, and founder of now-defunct political group Student Front Alvin Cheng Kam-mun.

One of the defence counsels, Fiona Chong Fok-ching, explained legal procedures to relatives of defendants outside court. Two women, who held hands with a child, became emotional and began to sob.

READ MORE: Mong Kok riot – 38 charged and to appear in court as Hong Kong asks how New Year’s night turned to violence
The Mong Kok riot began on Monday night as a group of activists from Hong Kong Indigenous confronted police and hygiene officers to “protect” illegal street hawkers in Mong Kok. Masked activists threw bricks and bottles at police, while police used batons and pepper spray and fired two warning shots into the air.

Of the 64 arrested in connection with the incident so far, the police have charged 35 men and three women aged 15 to 70. One of those charged is out on bail.

Meanwhile, 16 people between the ages of 14 to 33 were released on bail pending further investigation, while another 10 remain detained for further enquiries.

According to the police, rioting is a serious offence that carries a maximum sentence of 10 years’ imprisonment

 

[oprih]

Good job Hong Kong police officers, throw all those troublemakers to jail.

 

[Dungeness]

Hong Kong courtroom packed as 37 face rioting charges and are banned from entering parts of Mong Kok | South China Morning Post

Hong Kong courtroom packed as 37 face rioting charges and are banned from entering parts of Mong Kok
Defendants, including Hong Kong Indigenous spokesman Edward Leung and Undergrad magazine editor-to-be Stephen Ku, charged with one count of rioting. Some tell court police used excessive force during arrests

• 

Four police buses ferrying the defendants arrived before 9am. Photo: Edward Wong
The first of the 37 defendants charged in connection with a Mong Kok Riot on Tuesday has appeared before a magistrate at Kowloon City Court, and was barred from entering parts of Mong Kok as he was granted bail.

Senior Assistant Director of Public Prosecution David Leung Cheuk-yin SC asked the court to impose an injunction on clerk Ho Siu-cheung on the grounds of public safety.

Ho, 21, charged with one count of rioting, was the first to appear in Kowloon City Court on Thursday. He is accused of participating in a riot between February 8 and 9 in Mong Kok.

Ho has been barred from setting foot in an area near Fai Yuen Street, Dundas Street and Shanghai street.

READ MORE: Localist group in Mong Kok violence unlikely to make headway in Hong Kong political arena
Leung asked for the case to be adjourned to April 7.

“This is for further police enquiries and legal advice,” he said.

Other defendants who have appeared so far have faced the same charge and injunction. Their case was also adjourned to the same day.

Those charged include activist group Hong Kong Indigenous spokesman Edward Leung Tin-kei, who is running for the upcoming Legislative Council by-election, and Stephen Ku Bok-him, the editor-to-be of Hong Kong University’s student magazine Undergrad

The other defendants are: Sung Kwun-wo, Sit Tat-wing, Kenny Wong Hok-shun, Kenny Chan Ao-tien, Cheung Chin-to, Tam Hiu-Tung, Mok Pak-hin, Lin Yun-fat, Wong Sai-kit, Li Cheuk-hin, Chan Koon-ki, Tang King-chung, Wong Ho-sing, Leo Chan Siu-kwan, Sit Kwun-fai, Lee Sin-yi, Lai Man-tsun, Chan Hei-man, Philip Tsang Chiu-yu, Leung Tin-kei, Lee Nok-man, Li Pui-ho, Ken Lo Kin-man, Chan Cheuk-hin, Chan Pak-yeung, Ng Ting-kai, Churk Ling-hon, Tsang Kin-hang, Chan Ho-man, Hui Ka-ki, Mak Tsz-hei, Stephen Ku Bok-him, Chan Wo-cheung and Mo Jia-tao.

Photographers snapping pictures while suspects are escorted to Kowloon City Court. Photo: Edward Wong

In court, some defendants complained police had resorted to excessive force during arrests.

Through his lawyer Chris Ng, defendant Chan Yu-kei said he faced violent treatment from police officers, who ganged up on him and beat him up on the night of the incident.

“He was hit in the head with police batons, resulting in blood all over his face,” Ng said of his client, who had his forehead covered in bandages.

Ng also said another defendant he represented, Lin Yun-fat, told him that police kept him awake for 40 hours before they took his statement. Lin was allegedly told he would be charged with attending an illegal assembly before the statement was taken.

Acting chief magistrate Peter Law Tak-chuen noted Lin’s complaints as inducement, but he said the court would not take note of Chan’s complaint because the court was independent from the police.

After the hearing, defendants on bail began leaving the courthouse police cell in batches. They were escorted away by groups of their supporters, some in hoods and wearing masks, as an enormous press pack gave chase through the streets.

Suspects facing charges connected to the Mong Kok riot arrive at the Kowloon City Magistrates' Court. Photo: Edward Wong

The case attracted a lot of attention from the public, with the Kowloon City courtroom becoming packed just minutes after it opened its doors on Thursday morning.

More than 100 people gathered at the fifth floor of Kowloon City Court before entry to the courtroom that was expected to hear the defendants’ cases was allowed at 9.15am. The court’s public gallery seats were filled in less than three minutes.

It was not immediately clear whether the crowd was composed of supporters of the defendants, but at least one person was spotted wearing a black surgical mask.

Among the crowd, there were activists, including Scholarism convenor Joshua Wong Chi-fung, University of Hong Kong’s student union president Billy Fung Jing-en, and founder of now-defunct political group Student Front Alvin Cheng Kam-mun.

One of the defence counsels, Fiona Chong Fok-ching, explained legal procedures to relatives of defendants outside court. Two women, who held hands with a child, became emotional and began to sob.

READ MORE: Mong Kok riot – 38 charged and to appear in court as Hong Kong asks how New Year’s night turned to violence
The Mong Kok riot began on Monday night as a group of activists from Hong Kong Indigenous confronted police and hygiene officers to “protect” illegal street hawkers in Mong Kok. Masked activists threw bricks and bottles at police, while police used batons and pepper spray and fired two warning shots into the air.

Of the 64 arrested in connection with the incident so far, the police have charged 35 men and three women aged 15 to 70. One of those charged is out on bail.

Meanwhile, 16 people between the ages of 14 to 33 were released on bail pending further investigation, while another 10 remain detained for further enquiries.

According to the police, rioting is a serious offence that carries a maximum sentence of 10 years’ imprisonment

I hope the court will not let them walk free.

 

[bbccdd1470]

I understand your point, but banning NGO is unreachable, since this is hard to reach consensus in the public and not to mention we have many politicians who work closely with the CIA. I can say this kind of law is not going to pass in the legislative. Moreover, we have a very strong anti-china sentiment among the younger people, who is against everything that is related to China no matter right and wrong.

It was the stupidity of Beijing govt that promised HK laws will not be untouch for 50 years after '97. You probably cannot ban NGO but you can make it harder for new ones to establish and create laws that will heavily penalize NGO leaders for inciting separatist activities and espionage.

But you are right that HK legislative are filled with running dogs. I find that people who have been colonized tend to have that inferior mentality. The HK people who are against protesters are too cowardly to come out and go against the protesters.

I agree that some of the HK people possess inferior mentality, but this is not because we had been colonized. This is more about the rise of China, HK was once a quarter of China 's GDP, back in 80s and 90s HK people were treated like a god when back to China. However,with the rise of China some people are losing this sense of superior and gradually turn to inferior complex.