Homos are genetically handicapped: BJP's Subramanian Swamy

[T90TankGuy]

Now if only swamy's father had been a homosexual we would not have had to deal with this idiot.

 

[Mamsalaphala]

Now is only swamy's father had been a homosexual we would not have had to deal with this idiot.

By saying that you have actually ENDORSED Dr. Swamys statement

Oxymoron : a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction

 

[jamahir]

Why ?

Homosexuals are handicapped since they cannot Procreate naturally. This is a statement of Fact.

How can you deny this ? Homosexual are not designed by nature to have offspring and hence disturb the natural necessitation of continuity of life.

It is people who cannot grasp this simple scientific fact who are Idiots. Blinded by Prejudice to reason, guided by dogma.

99.99 percent of gays in india are married and have children... their proclivities are done in secret and sometimes known but the wives tolerate it because of "once married, married for seven life times" ( AIIMS Doctor Commits Suicide, Blames 'Gay' Husband, Also a Doctor ).

 

[It.is.all.mudi's.fault]

If you're not going to enforce the law then why keep it?

One reason is that this is only anti-gay law of statue books. If it is removed, homosexuals would automatically get right to marry, serve in military, adopt children, have pride parades; and even worse, all Indians laws dealing with public indecency, solicitation, and even having s*x in public are built on idea of Male-Female s*x.


No one inside or outside government want sec 377 to be enforced, but very few are okay with what comes after that. Scrapping sec 377 would require a much comprehensive revision of statue books, than most of "Scrap 377" brigade acknowledge.

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That is an invalid argument. Cross-species existence of a phenomenon does not rule out it being a defect. HIV exist both in Apes (SIV) and Humans. What cross-species existence of a phenomenon would prove is that the defect exist in base Genes, probably HoX genes.You need better argument that "monkeys do it" to prove that it is not a Genetic defect.

And there are two point of origin of a Behaviour: DNA or conditioning. If Homosexulatity is not in genes, then the accusation of fundamentalist Christians that Gays are training children to become homos was correct all along, because there is no third origin of Behaviour. If not DNA, then training.


Though Swami put it out in a crass manner, but Homosexuals does suffer from some sort of genetic deformity (You could debate whether it is defect or not), like Haemophilia.

 

[Mamsalaphala]

99.99 percent of gays in india are married and have children... their proclivities are done in secret and sometimes known but the wives tolerate it because of "once married, married for seven life times" ( AIIMS Doctor Commits Suicide, Blames 'Gay' Husband, Also a Doctor ).

Gay Men who are married will not have children since they will not be able to sexually perform for their partner. Its possible for Gay women to have kids when married to a dominant male.

 

[jamahir]

Gay Men who are married will not have children since they will not be able to sexually perform for their partner.

social reality says otherwise.

from ( A masterpiece of cinematic skills, 'Aligarh' has a lot to say about the way we perceive homosexuals - Firstpost )...

The UNDP’s New York head has called us the country with the largest number of Men-Having-Sex-With-Men (MSM). Maybe the Supreme Court can take off where Prof Siras failed.

At night, like a lot of homosexuals, he went into the streets. His objects of eroticism were essentially cycle rickshawwallahs who always have an “easy side” to them. It is, of course, the same in all major cities in India; the night drivers of taxis, rickshaws and even buses are forever looking for ‘mazaa and masti’, as homosexual sex is called.

In Professor’s case this was known to other gay men on the AMU campus. It is surprising how common ‘mazaa aur masti’ is in those parts. Mothers openly frighten their boys saying they would be “handed to the Mullahji”, if they don’t behave. Friends fool around and then plead with dosts to stop their ‘homogiri’. The words for gay men can be either positive ‘Gud’ (jaggery) or the derisive “G@#$du”. Aligarh Muslim University and Banaras Hindu University may be two ends of the communal spectrum in India but what they have in common is their turbulent, tenacious homosexual subcultures.

the writer of this piece is ashok row kavi, a long standing gay rights activist and a gay himself.

and the delhi case clearly shows that families marry off their gay sons not so much to hide the son's swing ( not necessary to hide in a country with a big gay subculture ) but more to complete the traditional indian "decent married family man" ladder.

An anaesthetist at AIIMS, Priya married Kamal, a dermatologist, five years ago and they stayed at the AIIMS quarters in south Delhi.
In her suicide note, Priya alleges that her husband lied about his sexual orientation and later, harassed her for dowry.

She also posted a message on Facebook on Saturday afternoon, addressed to him: "I just wanted to be with you, accepting you and your sexual orientation because I loved you very much but you never knew importance of this. You are a criminal Dr Kamal Vedi of my life. Kamal's family is innocent but you are a devil," the post said.

and the wives force themselves to accept the proclivities of the husbands because the wives think they are committed into a traditional institution and must not shame their parents.

Its possible for Gay women to have kids when married to a dominant male.

"gay" should only be used for males and "lesbian" for females... proper terminology.

 

[Mamsalaphala]

social reality says otherwise.

from ( A masterpiece of cinematic skills, 'Aligarh' has a lot to say about the way we perceive homosexuals - Firstpost )...

the writer of this piece is ashok row kavi, a long standing gay rights activist and a gay himself.

and the delhi case clearly shows that families marry off their gay sons not so much to hide the son's swing ( not necessary to hide in a country with a big gay subculture ) but more to complete the traditional indian "decent married family man" ladder.

and the wives force themselves to accept the proclivities of the husbands because the wives think they are committed into a traditional institution and must not shame their parents.

"gay" should only be used for males and "lesbian" for females... proper terminology.

So "Reality" for you is Fictional Movies

Everything else you have said is just blabber and out of topic. (As usual).

 

[Bombermanx1]

IF all my above explanations have not made you understand then it is possible that you do not have the ability to understand English or lack the ability to grasp simple facts.

Either way you are beyond my help. I suggest you go to a school for Retards who can probably help you.

Truth is Homos are unnatural nor can they have offspring naturally,if it was natural as what faggot supporters here say,then Nature would have given them a uterus and a vagina along with a Pe*nis.

99.99 percent of gays in india are married and have children... their proclivities are done in secret and sometimes known but the wives tolerate it because of "once married, married for seven life times" ( AIIMS Doctor Commits Suicide, Blames 'Gay' Husband, Also a Doctor ).

That is what we call converting a gay into a Straight person.Eventually they will turn straight after sometime.

 

[jamahir]

So "Reality" for you is Fictional Movies

Everything else you have said is just blabber and out of topic. (As usual).

that "fictional movie" is based on the real-life case of a aligarh professor and ashok's article includes description on real-life indian society and he as a gay knows the barely hidden gay subculture.

and my first quote from the article was from a real-life uno agency, undp...

The UNDP’s New York head has called us the country with the largest number of Men-Having-Sex-With-Men (MSM). Maybe the Supreme Court can take off where Prof Siras failed.

That is what we call converting a gay into a Straight person.Eventually they will turn straight after sometime.

can you provide proof of how many have been converted in the last 68 years??

 

[Koovie]

IF all my above explanations have not made you understand then it is possible that you do not have the ability to understand English or lack the ability to grasp simple facts.

Either way you are beyond my help. I suggest you go to a school for Retards who can probably help you.

Says the guy who does not even know what homosexuality and science are

Your "explanation" and "science" have been proven wrong. And I`ve proven it earlier with scientific facts.

Homosexuality is, contrary to your statement, natural. Thats a fact. Whether your brainwashed brain approves it or not.

Truth is Homos are unnatural nor can they have offspring naturally,if it was natural as what faggot supporters here say,then Nature would have given them a uterus and a vagina along with a Pe*nis.


That is what we call converting a gay into a Straight person.Eventually they will turn straight after sometime.

BS. Its a scientifically accepted fact that homosexuality is a natural phenomenon as I ve shown in earlier comments.

That is an invalid argument. Cross-species existence of a phenomenon does not rule out it being a defect. HIV exist both in Apes (SIV) and Humans. What cross-species existence of a phenomenon would prove is that the defect exist in base Genes, probably HoX genes.You need better argument that "monkeys do it" to prove that it is not a Genetic defect.
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Not only apes but hundreds (Thousands depending on the source) of other species too. Would be a quite interesting cross species "defect", right?

Comparing homosexuality with a disease that attacks your immune system is kinda nonsensical too....

And considering the the huge amount of humans and their detrimental impact on the system Earth, its probably better for the human race to not suppress the the personal choices of people anyways.

 

[Mamsalaphala]

that "fictional movie" is based on the real-life case of a aligarh professor and ashok's article includes description on real-life indian society and he as a gay knows the barely hidden gay subculture.

and my first quote from the article was from a real-life uno agency, undp...

A Fictional story based on Tipu Sultan does not make it any more real than a Fiction story based on Jodha Akbar or a Fictional story based on an aligarh professor.

In any case it has nothing to do with the thread or discussion.

Says the guy who does not even know what homosexuality and science are

Your "explanation" and "science" have been proven wrong. And I`ve proven it earlier with scientific facts.

Homosexuality is, contrary to your statement, natural. Thats a fact. Whether your brainwashed brain approves it or not.

BS. Its a scientifically accepted fact that homosexuality is a natural phenomenon as I ve shown in earlier comments.

You suffer from "Stupidity". Its also a "natural phenomena" that occurs due to poor brain interconnectivity due to poor genetic material. Very much like homosexuality, and hopefully with a similar end result i.e. inability to further your species.

And like all other "Natural" handicap it limits your ability considerably.

Explaining even simple scientific facts to you, is like explaining Relativity to a 5 year old. Its a waste of time.

Give this reality, spare me your insightss into "science and homosexuality" ..... I have a very low tolerance to Fools. and you are among the bigger ones here.

 

[Bombermanx1]

BS. Its a scientifically accepted fact that homosexuality is a natural phenomenon as I ve shown in earlier comments.

Natural Phenomenon? you are giving examples of animals to humans,Do you realise we don't share the same DNA as a dog or closest primates.
If it was natural then Perhaps the Homo animals might have made homo societies in animal kingdom.
if it was natural,then nature would have given them organs like Tape worm which can impregnate itself and produce more copies of itself.
Alas,but Homos dont have Vagina,Uterus,and ovaries along with Penis to give birth to offspring naturally.So that is definitely unnatural.

can you provide proof of how many have been converted in the last 68 years??

Funny, you say that being a Communist.
Don't you know how many Homos were made straight in Matashka Roosiya during USSR rule? with Conversion therapy?

 

[jamahir]

A Fictional story based on Tipu Sultan does not make it any more real than a Fiction story based on Jodha Akbar or a Fictional story based on an aligarh professor.

you are constantly using "fiction" to hide away the social reality and the tragic story of a real-life person... the part in ashok's article about india's real night life is not fiction...

At night, like a lot of homosexuals, he went into the streets. His objects of eroticism were essentially cycle rickshawwallahs who always have an “easy side” to them. It is, of course, the same in all major cities in India; the night drivers of taxis, rickshaws and even buses are forever looking for ‘mazaa and masti’, as homosexual sex is called.

In Professor’s case this was known to other gay men on the AMU campus. It is surprising how common ‘mazaa aur masti’ is in those parts. Mothers openly frighten their boys saying they would be “handed to the Mullahji”, if they don’t behave. Friends fool around and then plead with dosts to stop their ‘homogiri’. The words for gay men can be either positive ‘Gud’ (jaggery) or the derisive “G@#$du”.

Aligarh Muslim University and Banaras Hindu University may be two ends of the communal spectrum in India but what they have in common is their turbulent, tenacious homosexual subcultures.

In any case it has nothing to do with the thread or discussion.

no, it has.

since the undp agrees that india has the largest gay population in the world, submarine swamy has a big task at hand.

Funny, you say that being a Communist.
Don't you know how many Homos were made straight in Matashka Roosiya during USSR rule? with Conversion therapy?

i have no information on that... can you provide a article or two, or a google-books reference??

however, i had once read on ria-novosti or tass website that in ussr days the gays ( when caught soliciting publicly i suppose ) were jailed for seven years while lesbians had no sentencing.

Alas,but Homos dont have Vagina,Uterus,and ovaries along with Penis to give birth to offspring naturally.

what is this??

 

[Bombermanx1]

i have no information on that... can you provide a article or two, or a google-books reference??

however, i had once read on ria-novosti or tass website that in ussr days the gays ( when caught soliciting publicly i suppose ) were jailed for seven years while lesbians had no sentencing.

Conversion therapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
LGBT history in Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Communism and homosexuality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Infact i know in ex-USSR states it was the norm of using medical therapy to make a Homo straight.

Understand the Soviets fear of Red Army fornicating and spilling secrets with NATO armymen on border.

what is this??

It is what it is,They are not natural,some faggot supporters here think to pass it off as natural when its unnatural, if it was natural as they say,they should have given birth to babies themselves instead of seeking surrogate mothers for their babies.

 

[Mamsalaphala]

you are constantly using "fiction" to hide away the social reality and the tragic story of a real-life person... the part in ashok's article about india's real night life is not fiction...

no, it has.

since the undp agrees that india has the largest gay population in the world, submarine swamy has a big task at hand.

More rubbish. what has Indias night life got anything t do with this thread you moron.

What "big task" does Dr. Swamy have at hand ?