Home Office boss quits over 'campaign against him'

[bananarepublic]

@The Eagle @waz thread title is not the original source

 

[A Pakistani Abroad]

Not only did students enrolled, but some took commission for inviting others. This happened as a once in a lifetime opportunist strike right? The characters caught in this sting would otherwise have never indulged in degree fakery or secondary commission taking?

You're having a laugh mate.

Yes, there is no question about these students not being the paragons of virtue, but the point is that they wouldn't have engaged in such a plot had the US government not set up a fake university with a very credible website. The students were also desperate for a job which in my mind is a mitigating factor.

This happens with Muslims as well, governments set up sting operations and prey on vulnerable people, people who would otherwise not have commited the offence, the rationale being that is is good to draw such people out to catch them.

The points based system would in fact attract EU immigrants more because they are way more educated, technically advanced and skilled than indians are.

EU immigrants into the UK have mainly been Eastern European labour class , the European immigrants you talk of normally stay in their own countries.

 

[jericho]

The points based system would in fact attract EU immigrants more because they are way more educated, technically advanced and skilled than indians are.

Statistic from Australia (source : https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-statistics/statistics/visa-statistics) :

Study visa

Immigration stream

Statistics from Canada :

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuart...o-canada-at-an-astonishing-rate/#4194b3412b5f

"The rise in Indian students coming to Canadian universities is likely a significant reason that Indian immigration has surged. The number of Indian international students studying at Canadian universities rose from 76,075 in 2016 to 172,625 in 2018, an increase of 127%, according to the Canadian Bureau for International Education. In contrast, at U.S. universities, the number of international students from India enrolled in graduate-level programs in computer science and engineering fell by 21% (18,590 fewer graduate students) from 2016 to 2017."

 

[masterchief_mirza]

the point is that they wouldn't have engaged in such a plot had the US government not set up a fake university with a very credible website

Ermm, based on what evidence? The point is precisely the contrary of what you stated. These guys probably would have done such a thing had another genuine opportunity at fakery arisen. This is the basis of such sting entrapment operations.

You're making quite an effort to create a technical point of contention on the moral standing of the fake migration scammers from India. Not sure why.

You're also obfuscating the whole point of the thread with your comments about consanguineity in marriage and entrapment of terrorist suspects and general criticism of Pakistanis in UK. Why derail the thread with such commentary that is irrelevant?

"Pakistani abroad" right?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Statistic from Australia (source : https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-statistics/statistics/visa-statistics) :

Study visa

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Immigration stream

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Statistics from Canada :

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuart...o-canada-at-an-astonishing-rate/#4194b3412b5f

"The rise in Indian students coming to Canadian universities is likely a significant reason that Indian immigration has surged. The number of Indian international students studying at Canadian universities rose from 76,075 in 2016 to 172,625 in 2018, an increase of 127%, according to the Canadian Bureau for International Education. In contrast, at U.S. universities, the number of international students from India enrolled in graduate-level programs in computer science and engineering fell by 21% (18,590 fewer graduate students) from 2016 to 2017."

I'm talking about the UK not Australia or Canada. EU immigrants don't go to these places as it is very far. They are more likely to come to the UK as it is closer.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

happens with Muslims as well, governments set up sting operations and prey on vulnerable people, people who would otherwise not have commited the offence,

Not talking about "muslims". I was talking about Indian students, could be Muslim or otherwise.

You're starting to sound like a bit of a Hindutva. Wanna be careful there.

 

[jericho]

I'm talking about the UK not Australia or Canada. EU immigrants don't go to these places as it is very far. They are more likely to come to the UK as it is closer.

Maybe, but I guess the only way to find out is to wait for few years and see what happens

 

[A Pakistani Abroad]

Not talking about "muslims". I was talking about Indian students, could be Muslim or otherwise.

You're starting to sound like a bit of a Hindutva. Wanna be careful there.

I am trying to look at this from a non-biased perspective. You seem to be intent on proving Indian immigrants are engaging in wisespread fraud based one one story which requires further investigation, it was a clear case of entrapment.

I personally wouldn't care if the immigration system benefits Indians, the types of Pakistanis coming in leave a lot to be desired as they come in through sham marriages. It would be much better for the Pakistani community if only educated Pakistanis came in.

 

[pakpride00090]

Statistic from Australia (source : https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-statistics/statistics/visa-statistics) :

Study visa

View attachment 610311

Immigration stream

View attachment 610312

Statistics from Canada :

View attachment 610313

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuart...o-canada-at-an-astonishing-rate/#4194b3412b5f

"The rise in Indian students coming to Canadian universities is likely a significant reason that Indian immigration has surged. The number of Indian international students studying at Canadian universities rose from 76,075 in 2016 to 172,625 in 2018, an increase of 127%, according to the Canadian Bureau for International Education. In contrast, at U.S. universities, the number of international students from India enrolled in graduate-level programs in computer science and engineering fell by 21% (18,590 fewer graduate students) from 2016 to 2017."

Holy molly...They are infesting every single western country...

So much ugliness and creepy behavior.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I would like to know what is going on that that out of no where there are two Indian origin people who managed to sneak into the UK cabinet.

As for Patel, I guess she is originally from Indian Gujrat, Modi home state. I would say again, and I repeat, the western establishment are feeding a hydra in their animosity with Pakistan and China which will come after them eventually if not challenged.

And as for her qualities. Enjoy!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1224619601738137600

 

[masterchief_mirza]

I am trying to look at this from a non-biased perspective. You seem to be intent on proving Indian immigrants are engaging in wisespread fraud based one one story which requires further investigation, it was a clear case of entrapment.

I personally wouldn't care if the immigration system benefits Indians, the types of Pakistanis coming in leave a lot to be desired as they come in through sham marriages. It would be much better for the Pakistani community if only educated Pakistanis came in.

Whatever "type" of Pakistani is present, do you honestly believe Indian immigrants and their children will accept you and your interests as compatible with theirs? Perhaps you are genuinely naive in this regard.

Without question, the uneducated and gangster Pakistani types that I think you're hinting at are a very easy target for their malevolent intent. However, what makes you think ANY Pakistani is safe from the malevolence of Indian diaspora elements? Our artists, politicians, sportspeople and professionals are targeted openly in Europe and NA by the Modi government simply for their identity as "Pakistani". Why would the Indian citizens who voted Modi into power or the Indian diaspora in Europe feel any different towards any of our professional classes? Look no further than the vitriol directed at Moeen Ali or Sadiq Khan by Indians or Brits of Indian origin to understand the nature of the beast you're apologising for.
What did Modi spout at the howdy Modi event in the USA - which professional Indians lapped up religiously - that even remotely brought any kind of confidence to diaspora professional Pakistanis?

I'm not intent on proving their students are engaged in widespread fraud - that's not a priority. Firstly, simply let me convince Pakistanis in UK that the hindutva leaning Indian communities (which obviously isn't all Indian communities) here have malicious intent towards Pakistan, Pakistanis and the Pakistani diaspora.

"aman ki asha" of our parents' era is well and truly dead.

 

[A Pakistani Abroad]

Whatever "type" of Pakistani is present, do you honestly believe Indian immigrants and their children will accept you and your interests as compatible with theirs? Perhaps you are genuinely naive in this regard.

Without question, the uneducated and gangster Pakistani types that I think you're hinting at are a very easy target for their malevolent intent. However, what makes you think ANY Pakistani is safe from the malevolence of Indian diaspora elements? Our artists, politicians, sportspeople and professionals are targeted openly in Europe and NA by the Modi government simply for their identity as "Pakistani". Why would the Indian citizens who voted Modi into power or the Indian diaspora in Europe feel any different towards any of our professional classes? Look no further than the vitriol directed at Moeen Ali or Sadiq Khan by Indians or Brits of Indian origin to understand the nature of the beast you're apologising for.
What did Modi spout at the howdy Modi event in the USA - which professional Indians lapped up religiously - that even remotely brought any kind of confidence to diaspora professional Pakistanis?

I'm not intent on proving their students are engaged in widespread fraud - that's not a priority. Firstly, simply let me convince Pakistanis in UK that the hindutva leaning Indian communities (which obviously isn't all Indian communities) here have malicious intent towards Pakistan, Pakistanis and the Pakistani diaspora.

"aman ki asha" of our parents' era is well and truly dead.

Indians in the UK mostly vote Labour as do Sikhs, I personally find Sadiq Khan to be stupid as he also gives Muslims a bad name with his low-IQ 'diversity is our strength' comments which have become a meme in their own right. Most Indians in the West are leftists anyway and are against CAA.

My parents have many Indian friends, perhaps you live in some segregated ghetto where everyone is a Pakistani but that is not the universal case.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Indians in the UK mostly vote Labour as do Sikhs, I personally find Sadiq Khan to be stupid as he also gives Muslims a bad name with his low-IQ 'diversity is our strength' comments which have become a meme in their own right. Most Indians in the West are leftists anyway and are against CAA.

My parents have many Indian friends, perhaps you live in some segregated ghetto where everyone is a Pakistani but that is not the universal case.

"Segregated ghetto"? Me? How amusing.

 

[waz]

Good he can piss off along with the other bunch of snakes who are paid in excess of £100,000 a year for doing nothing, and have for the last three years done their best to sabotage the EU referendum result and weaken the UK's hand in negotiations.
Now they have no place to hide and run with Preti there.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Indians in the UK mostly vote Labour as do Sikhs,

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The Conservatives have stolen the British Indian vote from Labour – here's how
Following the election of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi in May 2014, the Conservative government has stepped up its Indian charm offensive

• Rakib Ehsan
• Thursday 18 May 2017 09:45
  

The Conservatives have been consolidating ties with India's Narendra Modi ( Getty )
As the 2017 UK general election nears, Labouris facing a probable loss of seats for the fifth consecutive time. It may also suffer further disintegration of its historical relationship with British voters of Indian origin.

The 2015 election saw the Conservatives receive 1m ethnic minority votes for the first time in its electoral history. And those votes came largely at Labour’s expense. A post-election survey by British Future showed the Tories enjoyed an eight percentage point advantage over Labour among Britain’s Hindu and Sikh communities. The Conservatives have 49 per cent popularity among both ethno-religious groups, to Labour’s 41 per cent.