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I don't know, because of the reasons provided. If it was just on terms of looking cool, the XM8 (which I believe was a cancelled project).
HK-417A2 a worthy replacement for G3 battle rifles.
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scar is ubber cool.
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IMO the scar is too bulky. I hate it. It feels like your carrying around a brick or something.
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actually it could sell them to the u.s civilian market. Other countries do that so I dont see why it isn't possible.
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Well Yes Pakistan need a New Gun G3 is to big and heavy to carry and is also not that accurate we need to replace our Gun as soon as possibe Saudis by the way chose HK G36 but we should evaluate this GunH&K have recently pulled out the upgraded Hk-417 called Hk-417A2. This now looks much more refined and suitable for a battle rifle than the previous 417. This would make a worthy replacement for the G-3s in service around the world including Pakistan.
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Heckler-Koch HK417 assault rifle (Germany)
2006 prototype of HK417 rifle with 20" barrel; note that it used HK G3-compatible magazines
Image: Heckler & Koch
Current (2008) version of HK417 rifle with 12" / 30cm barrel, basic version
Image: Heckler & Koch
Current (2008) version of HK417 rifle with 12" / 30cm barrel, fitted withtelescope sight with night vision adapter, folding bipod and a sound moderator(silencer)
Image: Heckler & Koch
Current (2008) version of HK417 rifle with 16" / 40cm barrel
Image: Heckler & Koch
Current (2008) version of HK417 rifle with 20" / 50cm barrel, with telescopesight and detachable bipod
Image: Heckler & Koch
Caliber: 7,62x51mm NATO
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 905 - 985 mm with 406 mm barrel / 35.6" - 38.8" with 16" barrel
Barrel length: 305 mm / 12", 406 mm / 16" or 508 mm / 20"
Weight: 4.36 kg - 4.96 kg, depending on barrel length
Rate of fire: 600 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 10 or 20 rounds
HK417 assault rifle was recently developed by famous German arms-making company Heckler und Koch, as a "big brother" to the 5.56mm HK416 assault rifle. Information on this weapon first surfaced in 2005, on the wave of new interest for the 7.62mm NATO caliber military rifles. This interestcame in from experience of international forces gained in Afghanistan and Iraq, where increased range and penetration of the 7.62mm NATO bullets was (and still is) quite useful. Several companies developed new or updated versions of 7.62mm weapons, with intent to sell to military, law enforcement and in certain cases - to civilian shootersas well. The HK417 is one of such weapons. It is primarily oriented toward US market, as it mimics the popular 5.56mm AR-15 / M16rifles in external appearance, controls, and many design features.However, there are more than few new and original features in HK417,including Heckler-Koch's patented piston-operated gas system,user-changeable barrels etc. Like most other competitors, HK417 riflesare available in several barrel lengths, suitable for full scale ofmilitary operations, from close combat in urban or forest areas and upto long-range accurate shooting.
HK417rifle is a gas operated,selective fired weapon of modular design. Ituses short-stroke gas piston located above the barrel, that operatesthe 7-lug rotating bolt. Barrels are cold hammer forged, and could bereplaced by end user in several minutes using simple tools. There are four basic patterns of barrels available for HK417 as of now (2008):305mm / 12" and 406 mm / 16" standard barrels and 406 mm / 16" and 508 mm/ 20" accurized barrels. Accurized barrels provide 1 MOA accuracy (with proper ammunition). Receiver ismade from high grade aluminum alloy and consists of two parts (upperand lower), connected by two cross-pins a-la AR-15 / M16 rifles. Combination-type safety / fire selectorallows for single shots and full automatic mode. HK417 retains all M16-style controls, including last round bolt hold-open device, bolt closure device, rear-based charging handle and magazine release button on the right side of the magazine well. HK417 isfitted with four Picatinny rails on free-float handguard as standard, and will accept any type of sighting devices on STANAG-1913 compliant mounts. It also can accept modified HKAG36/AG-C 40mm grenade launcher, which is clamped directly to bottom rail. Buttstock is of modified M4 design, multi-position telescoped. Production HK417 rifles useproprietary 10- or 20-round box magazines, made of translucent polymer(early prototypes used HK G3 magazines).
Modern Firearms - HK 417
2006 prototype of HK417 rifle with 20" barrel; note that it used HK G3-compatible magazines
Image: Heckler & Koch
Current (2008) version of HK417 rifle with 12" / 30cm barrel, basic version
Image: Heckler & Koch
Current (2008) version of HK417 rifle with 12" / 30cm barrel, fitted withtelescope sight with night vision adapter, folding bipod and a sound moderator(silencer)
Image: Heckler & Koch
Current (2008) version of HK417 rifle with 16" / 40cm barrel
Image: Heckler & Koch
Current (2008) version of HK417 rifle with 20" / 50cm barrel, with telescopesight and detachable bipod
Image: Heckler & Koch
Caliber: 7,62x51mm NATO
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 905 - 985 mm with 406 mm barrel / 35.6" - 38.8" with 16" barrel
Barrel length: 305 mm / 12", 406 mm / 16" or 508 mm / 20"
Weight: 4.36 kg - 4.96 kg, depending on barrel length
Rate of fire: 600 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 10 or 20 rounds
HK417 assault rifle was recently developed by famous German arms-making company Heckler und Koch, as a "big brother" to the 5.56mm HK416 assault rifle. Information on this weapon first surfaced in 2005, on the wave of new interest for the 7.62mm NATO caliber military rifles. This interestcame in from experience of international forces gained in Afghanistan and Iraq, where increased range and penetration of the 7.62mm NATO bullets was (and still is) quite useful. Several companies developed new or updated versions of 7.62mm weapons, with intent to sell to military, law enforcement and in certain cases - to civilian shootersas well. The HK417 is one of such weapons. It is primarily oriented toward US market, as it mimics the popular 5.56mm AR-15 / M16rifles in external appearance, controls, and many design features.However, there are more than few new and original features in HK417,including Heckler-Koch's patented piston-operated gas system,user-changeable barrels etc. Like most other competitors, HK417 riflesare available in several barrel lengths, suitable for full scale ofmilitary operations, from close combat in urban or forest areas and upto long-range accurate shooting.
HK417rifle is a gas operated,selective fired weapon of modular design. Ituses short-stroke gas piston located above the barrel, that operatesthe 7-lug rotating bolt. Barrels are cold hammer forged, and could bereplaced by end user in several minutes using simple tools. There are four basic patterns of barrels available for HK417 as of now (2008):305mm / 12" and 406 mm / 16" standard barrels and 406 mm / 16" and 508 mm/ 20" accurized barrels. Accurized barrels provide 1 MOA accuracy (with proper ammunition). Receiver ismade from high grade aluminum alloy and consists of two parts (upperand lower), connected by two cross-pins a-la AR-15 / M16 rifles. Combination-type safety / fire selectorallows for single shots and full automatic mode. HK417 retains all M16-style controls, including last round bolt hold-open device, bolt closure device, rear-based charging handle and magazine release button on the right side of the magazine well. HK417 isfitted with four Picatinny rails on free-float handguard as standard, and will accept any type of sighting devices on STANAG-1913 compliant mounts. It also can accept modified HKAG36/AG-C 40mm grenade launcher, which is clamped directly to bottom rail. Buttstock is of modified M4 design, multi-position telescoped. Production HK417 rifles useproprietary 10- or 20-round box magazines, made of translucent polymer(early prototypes used HK G3 magazines).
Modern Firearms - HK 417
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Heckler & Koch HK416
posted on MARCH 10, 2013 by GUNS WEAPONS in ASSAULT RIFLES with NO COMMENTS
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Using AR-15 platform Heckler & Koch manufactured HK416 as an improvement to the Colt M4 carabine with inclusion of gas–piston system derived from H&K G36. This design prevents combustion gases from entering the weapon’s interior, a shortcoming with direct impingement systems. The reduction in heat and fouling of the bolt carrier group increases the reliability of the weapon and extends the interval between stoppages. The barrel is cold hammer forged for better firing sesions.
Delta Force replaced its M4s with the HK416 in 2004 after tests revealed that the piston operating system significantly reduces malfunctions while increasing the life of parts. HK 416 is equipped with Picatinny rail forearm on four sides alowing it to be mounted with most current accessories. Pistol grip is designed by H&K with a selection of interchangeable trigger groups allow for safe semi-automatic and fully automatic options. HK416 includes a folding front sight, and a rear sight similar in design to the G3.
A modified variant underwent testing by the United States Marine Corps as the M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle. After the Marine Corps Operational Test & Evaluation Activity supervised a round of testing at MCAGCC Twentynine Palms, Fort McCoy, andCamp Shelby (for dust, cold-weather, and hot-weather conditions, respectively). As of March 2012, fielding of 452 IARs has been completed of 4,748 ordered. Five infantry battalions; 1st Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion and 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines, out of Camp Pendleton, CA, First Battalion, 3rd Marines, out of Marine Corps Base HI, 1st Battalion, 9th Marines, out of Camp Lejeune, NC; and 1st Battalion, 25th Marines, out of Fort Devens, MA have deployed the weapon.
The HK416 models chambered for 5.56×45mm NATO available to the military and law enforcement market are:
posted on MARCH 10, 2013 by GUNS WEAPONS in ASSAULT RIFLES with NO COMMENTS
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Using AR-15 platform Heckler & Koch manufactured HK416 as an improvement to the Colt M4 carabine with inclusion of gas–piston system derived from H&K G36. This design prevents combustion gases from entering the weapon’s interior, a shortcoming with direct impingement systems. The reduction in heat and fouling of the bolt carrier group increases the reliability of the weapon and extends the interval between stoppages. The barrel is cold hammer forged for better firing sesions.
Delta Force replaced its M4s with the HK416 in 2004 after tests revealed that the piston operating system significantly reduces malfunctions while increasing the life of parts. HK 416 is equipped with Picatinny rail forearm on four sides alowing it to be mounted with most current accessories. Pistol grip is designed by H&K with a selection of interchangeable trigger groups allow for safe semi-automatic and fully automatic options. HK416 includes a folding front sight, and a rear sight similar in design to the G3.
A modified variant underwent testing by the United States Marine Corps as the M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle. After the Marine Corps Operational Test & Evaluation Activity supervised a round of testing at MCAGCC Twentynine Palms, Fort McCoy, andCamp Shelby (for dust, cold-weather, and hot-weather conditions, respectively). As of March 2012, fielding of 452 IARs has been completed of 4,748 ordered. Five infantry battalions; 1st Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion and 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines, out of Camp Pendleton, CA, First Battalion, 3rd Marines, out of Marine Corps Base HI, 1st Battalion, 9th Marines, out of Camp Lejeune, NC; and 1st Battalion, 25th Marines, out of Fort Devens, MA have deployed the weapon.
The HK416 models chambered for 5.56×45mm NATO available to the military and law enforcement market are:
- D10RS: sub-compact with a 264 mm (10.4 in) barrel
- D14.5RS: carbine rifle 368 mm (14.5 in) barrel
- D16.5RS: rifle with 419 mm (16.5 in) barrel
- D20RS: full-sized rifle 505 mm (19.9 in) barrel
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It's also apparently super heavy, from what I've heard.
Because those G-3 are made as military grade rifles, and with Pakistani black market, those rifles could very well get into the hands of the insurgents.
Handing them off to local police forces, or selling them to a foreign military force might also be an option.
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What about the Chinese bullpups, they look n
g3 iis not heavier than a ar10 or a scar with a quadrail fore end.
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Which is the problem, PA needs a lighter rifle. With the IA inducting light assault rifles in their forces, it'll give the IA infantry a distinct advantage, because they'll be able to carry more equipment and ammunition.
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Wich rifle is the best ... I mean made in pakistan rifle
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From what I'm been told, they prefer battle rifles, or at least they did. Ever since the insurgency began, that mindset has been changing, and there has been rumors circulating for the past 2 years that the PA may be looking for an assault rifle replacement to the G-3.
Still, battle rifles have their place in every military, so don't expect the G-3 to go out of service completely.
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