History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

[Rent]

With all respect, as I see you as a litterateur, we are all using English to communicate in this forum. That doesn't mean that we are all romanized. When conversing with other ethnicity, I try my best to speak to them in their native language, if possible. When speaking to a Filipino person, I will try to use some Tagalog. When speaking to a Hispanic person, I would use proper title like señor, señora or señorita to refer to the individual, depending on there age. For Chinese, I may try my best to use some Chinese as I see fit. This is Vietnamese manners to others and towards elders. However, if the person is rude, then I will respond with the same manner.

As many people will do, we try to find common grounds among different ethnicities to better understand and connect as a group during social times. Do not misconceive this to be that we are the same (sinicized). Try living with a Vietnamese for a month and you will see how different our two cultures are.

Doesn't matter if Vietnamese belonged to it,Vietnamese Sinicized and never got rid of it.

 

[dahuilang942]

Guangdong Guangxi, Yunan ...or south china land was invaded and robbed by Han Chinese. There is not native land of Hua Xia.



Northern Han and southern Han don't shared same blood line.



It is joker when southern chinese were conquered by Han Chinese from north China, you are slaves of Han Chinese.

It is inferior mentality when you labeled yourself that you are Han in ethnicity.

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You have a strong imagination
Maybe small country people don‘t understand what is ethnic integration,national unity ,today we are no doubt Chinese status,With the development of economy,it's more convenient to visit,job,my relative including many nation,one family Members don't mind where are you come from,what is you nation,it is “great power mentality”,VN comrade Cannot feel it,

 

[NiceGuy]

Poignant. This is just the case in most socialist states; the personal choice in leadership is mitigated.

Wrong, we chose to support communist to defeat France- US, and we gain benefit from it. We also dont like multy-party system coz it only fit with US while it is a collar to put arround Japan's neck.

 

[Aepsilons]

Wrong, we chose to support communist to defeat France- US, and we gain benefit from it. We also dont like multy-party system coz it only fit with US while it is a collar to put arround Japan's neck.

Did I mention the historical reasons for selecting a Communist style of governance? I don't think I did. I merely stated the unfortunate consequences in a one party system.

 

[Shishike]

I have never seen anything like this before, except in Beijing and in the Bruce Lee movie "The Chinese Connection".

I understand this image do not represent the general population of Chinese.

It's meaningless, but if you still curious, you may can google it.

And you forget this: China got bang so many time by smaller country like Britain, France, Japan ... until Chinese got big party given them by Japanese in 1937 at Nanking.

LOL, even that, you still begged our help to save your city.

 

[Rent]

I still don't understand...small role? Are you referring to a play?

Yes, poor Vietnam



I mean, Vietnam is a small role

 

[dahuilang942]

How very interesting. I've never heard of Zhuang ethnic group until now. @dahuilang942 , perchance you could start a threat about the Zhuang ethnic and illustrate some of their native regalia, festivities? Please and Thanks.

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5 colors glutinous rice

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Boy and girl of Zhuang

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[Rent]

Googled with no results.

It's meaningless, but if you still curious, you may can google it.

 

[Shishike]

It is big misunderstand bro. In the past Vietnamese used Han Zi to writing, so all clan name or surname has been interpreted in to Chinese to writing.Originally Le, Ly Lao ... were origin clan name of people who lived south china in ancient time, this people were no-Hua.

It doesn't mean that Vietnamese are southern Han Chinese in origin.

When I say that Van Lang ancient country of Vietnamese, territory is located in South China, Chinese member here on PDF don't agree with me.

Vietnamese speak Mon/Khmer language when Chinese speak Sino-Tibetan language.

that's a typical history misunderstanding, nowadays, Viet just like Philp in some way, difference is Philp failed to join U.S, Viet failed to be a part of China.

In accident years, some talented Chinese who cannot get spot light on them in China, they choose to move to far south of China, with many years and hard working. then we have a place now named 越南,交趾...etc. Even the names were gifts from Emperor in central country.

The relationship between Viet and China is twisted by media in both sides, these 2 countries acted like teacher and student, father and son, elder brother and youth in last thousands years, not even close to be enemies, but now, under powerful media and needs of politics, everything changes.

 

[Aepsilons]

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Show something different！
5 colors glutinous rice

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Boy and girl of Zhuang

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How very interesting. In the University that I work at here in the United States, I've had Hmong students who wore their ethnic regalia during an International Culture Show. It looks somewhat similar to the Zhuang attire. I believe the Hmong refer to themselves as 'Miao'. I think they are also minorities in the People's Republic of China, Laos and Vietnam.

Permit me to say that the Zhuang ethnic regalia is very colorful and beautiful. The female's headdress is quite beautiful in form, too.

 

[dahuilang942]

I said about invention, not about copy ability. Hua Xia culture belong to Han Chinese in northern China, not belong to Bai Yue, they were barbarian in ancient time.

Apply your analogy I can say that father DKZ canon is Vietnamese, father of mini-sub marine in Vietnam is Vietnamese etc.

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Your name is [达] Đạt [晖] Huy [郎] Lang if written out in Vietnamese.

Sawndip Script looks very complex. Written during the early Tang Dynasty.

Was there a reason to move from old Sawndip Script to Alphabetical Zhuang Script? Which script are more in use by Zhuang people?

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do you known Chinese character？

 

[Shishike]

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do you known Chinese character？

=..= your name is a sentence, right? means "a big gray wolf you are".

 

[NiceGuy]

Did I mention the historical reasons for selecting a Communist style of governance? I don't think I did. I merely stated the unfortunate consequences in a one party system.

Bro, if the party always serve the people, then why do we need to waste Tax to have one more party ?? US have 2 major parties but they all serve for the benefit of the top Bosses in Wall st who can take Tax from poor people but in charge of Nothing and never be over-thrown

 

[Rent]

The world use to look at China as an ancient, benevolent grandparent country. A melting pot of cultures with respect for its literatures, arts, and enduring history. However, this view is changing.

Yes, Qing emperor blessed our country with a great name, our people with continuous trades, which boosted Vietnam's economy during the Nguyen Dynasty. He made our people rich. In the other hand, his blessed his people by making them take off their buns, shave their heads and force them to wear pig tails as servant of cheap labor to Manchurians Khanate. 萬歲, 萬歲, 萬萬歲! This is the reason we didn't join China. Vietnamese benefited more as neighbors than we would as citizen under the regime. Do you see our perspective here?

Shishike, let this bickering end here.

that's a typical history misunderstanding, nowadays, Viet just like Philp in some way, difference is Philp failed to join U.S, Viet failed to be a part of China.

In accident years, some talented Chinese who cannot get spot light on them in China, they choose to move to far south of China, with many years and hard working. then we have a place now named 越南,交趾...etc. Even the names were gifts from Emperor in central country.

The relationship between Viet and China is twisted by media in both sides, these 2 countries acted like teacher and student, father and son, elder brother and youth in last thousands years, not even close to be enemies, but now, under powerful media and needs of politics, everything changes.

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do you known Chinese character？

I am still learning

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

fail.

You did not understand, bro. If Holy Roman Empire does not collapsed like Zhongguo, in Europa is existed northern Italian and Southern Italian like people in china now ?

Wrong analogy, you compare North Chinese and South Chinese is like comparing North Germans and South Germans.

North Germans: pure Germanics
South Germans: Germanics/Celts mix

North Chinese: pure Huaxia
South Chinese: Huaxia/Baiyue mix

Can you say that South Germans are not Germans? LMAO