History of Punjabis

[-blitzkrieg-]

Punjabi Rajput, jatt, gujjar arain, awan etc or agricultural tribes of punjab are one ethnicity. They act more like tribes and are pretty much similar to each other genetically. Punjabi is ethnicity and historically Punjab had same name in different languages. Only bradari punjabis are real indigenous punjabis that have existed since the time of Gandhara. Porus was from Mandi Bahauddin, not Jhelum district. He was ethnically proto-punjabi, its not a mystery. All main indigenous bradaris names/label/title came about in last 1000 years but their ancestors have lived in punjab since time of Gandhara civilization.

Anyway this is poor thread, there are users on twitter doing much better job with sources on history of punjabi muslims after Islam and pre Islamic history of punjab. Like these guys

https://twitter.com/x/status/1553807442772779009

https://twitter.com/x/status/1551752136521809920

https://twitter.com/x/status/1533939691367587840

and many more

This thread is more of wikipedia like then anything serious.

There is a term used WAG. Wide-As$ Guess. When you say something about porus's DNA.its a WAG.. what was proto Punjabi? What was its composition. Noone can define today and who he was closer to jatt arain or khokhar.. we dont know...
Furthermore mandi bahaudin is not even accurate its a place near jalalpur sharif where the battle happened. But since it comes in district jehlum amd also name of the river (hydapses) I used it instead as mandi bahaudin didn't exist back then. There is no evidence porus hailed from the mandi bahaudin today.

Lastly the genetic diversity mitochondrial DNA is smaller in say pashtun tribes than between arain and jutt..or rajput and awan or mughal and gujjar..6 distinct dna schemes seen in Punjab. Punjab is more of a geographic and cultural identity . The distinct nature of the groups is obviously due to much stricter rules of Inter marriages practiced over centuries and distinct outside influences over time. That's also why the punjabi ethnicities are distinguishable by GED and other sites.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

There is a term used WAG. Wide-As$ Guess. When you say something about porus's DNA.its a WAG.. what was proto Punjabi? What was its composition. Noone can define today and who he was closer to jatt arain or khokhar.. we dont know...
Furthermore mandi bahaudin is not even accurate its a place near jalalpur sharif where the battle happened. But since it comes in district jehlum amd also name of the river (hydapses) I used it instead as mandi bahaudin didn't exist back then. There is no evidence porus hailed from the mandi bahaudin today.

Lastly the genetic diversity mitochondrial DNA is smaller in say pashtun tribes than between arain and jutt..or rajput and awan or mughal and gujjar..6 distinct dna schemes seen in Punjab. Punjab is more of a geographic and cultural identity . The distinct nature of the groups is obviously due to much stricter rules of Inter marriages practiced over centuries and distinct outside influences over time. That's also why the punjabi ethnicities are distinguishable by GED and other sites.View attachment 867157View attachment 867158

1. Porus ruled area between Jhelum and Chenab, look at map where that is. Jhelum district was ruled by Ambi of Taxila.
2. Genetically the distance between north pashtuns and southern ones from Loy kandahar is biggest, they are not even same people if we just look at DNA. Meanwhile punjabi agricultural tribes are like 95% similar.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Punjabi Rajput, jatt, gujjar arain, awan etc or agricultural tribes of punjab are one ethnicity. They act more like tribes and are pretty much similar to each other genetically. Punjabi is ethnicity and historically Punjab had same name in different languages. Only bradari punjabis are real indigenous punjabis that have existed since the time of Gandhara. Porus was from Mandi Bahauddin, not Jhelum district. He was ethnically proto-punjabi, its not a mystery. All main indigenous bradaris names/label/title came about in last 1000 years but their ancestors have lived in punjab since time of Gandhara civilization.

Anyway this is poor thread, there are users on twitter doing much better job with sources on history of punjabi muslims after Islam and pre Islamic history of punjab. Like these guys

https://twitter.com/x/status/1553807442772779009

https://twitter.com/x/status/1551752136521809920

https://twitter.com/x/status/1533939691367587840

and many more

This thread is more of wikipedia like then anything serious.

I know many of them, their group is filled with closet racists and their articles are muddled with misinformation and historical revisionism.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

There is a term used WAG. Wide-As$ Guess. When you say something about porus's DNA.its a WAG.. what was proto Punjabi? What was its composition. Noone can define today and who he was closer to jatt arain or khokhar.. we dont know...
Furthermore mandi bahaudin is not even accurate its a place near jalalpur sharif where the battle happened. But since it comes in district jehlum amd also name of the river (hydapses) I used it instead as mandi bahaudin didn't exist back then. There is no evidence porus hailed from the mandi bahaudin today.

Lastly the genetic diversity mitochondrial DNA is smaller in say pashtun tribes than between arain and jutt..or rajput and awan or mughal and gujjar..6 distinct dna schemes seen in Punjab. Punjab is more of a geographic and cultural identity . The distinct nature of the groups is obviously due to much stricter rules of Inter marriages practiced over centuries and distinct outside influences over time. That's also why the punjabi ethnicities are distinguishable by GED and other sites.View attachment 867157View attachment 867158

So Arains are baluch mixed with South Indian with a splash of caucus people.

That makes sense. Maybe it’s because of my South Indian side that I hate North Indians so much and love beef.

@DESERT FIGHTER @Imran Khan

Welcome me into the family, nibbas!

 

[Imran Khan]

So Arains are baluch mixed with South Indian with a splash of caucus people.

That makes sense. Maybe it’s because of my South Indian side that I hate North Indians so much and love beef.

still there is mystery of onions and arain love .

 

[lastofthepatriots]

still there is mystery of onions and arain love .

While the rest of you were dying from Covid, Arain were eating onions and only getting stronger.

 

[Imran Khan]

While the rest of you were dying from Covid, Arain were eating onions and only getting stronger.

we better die with covid then eating onions like arain

 

[lastofthepatriots]

we better die with covid then eating onions like arain

Sahi’aa maar jao fe..

Man I love Baluch people, but knowing I may be distantly related to Zardari makes me want drink a bottle of dettol.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

@Mirzali Khan
"There's an interracial couple on tik tok, and the girl is hispanic and both the guy and girl call the language the guy speaks as "pothwari"



So I don't think Pakistan is trying to create new identities if people are saying stuff themselves."

Saw it on Reddit explains the dangerous situation

 

[lastofthepatriots]

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This girl look like an aunty and she’s not even old yet.

Lanat on this potohari or whatever he is. We Punjabis aren’t claiming him.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

This girl look like an aunty and she’s not even old yet.

Lanat on this potohari or whatever he is. We Punjabis aren’t claiming him.

She’s made tik toks complaining on how they’ve been dating for 8/9 years and she hasn’t gotten a ring yet

 

[lastofthepatriots]

She’s made tik toks complaining on how they’ve been dating for 8/9 years and she hasn’t gotten a ring yet

She must be paying his bills or something...

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

She’s made tik toks complaining on how they’ve been dating for 8/9 years and she hasn’t gotten a ring yet

Maybe he is inspired by Andrew tate.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Maybe he is inspired by Andrew tate.

I think his khala/mother will intercept his aspirations and claim complete dream superiority. The boy will go to Pakistan to marry his cousin and have 12 children like all proper Pakistanis should.

His gf will of course be jilted and be like **** muslim men(especially Pakistani men) and warn all females she encounters to stay away out of bitterness.

The End.

 

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@Mirzali Khan
"There's an interracial couple on tik tok, and the girl is hispanic and both the guy and girl call the language the guy speaks as "pothwari"



So I don't think Pakistan is trying to create new identities if people are saying stuff themselves."

Saw it on Reddit explains the dangerous situation

Punjabi language and cultul identity is very strong.. all of them are dialects of punjabi however one (majhi) is assumed standard because of more exposure when there is no standard dialect.. this has made people judge other dialects as separate lingos.