History of Pakistan from 3000 BC to the present

[bindaas]

The name Hindu Kush means 'Hindu killer'....

What is the meaning of Hindko.

 

[Edevelop]

What is the meaning of Hindko.

Hindko is a 6th main regional language in Pakistan. It is widely spoken in Hazara, Punjab, and in Azad Kashmir.

 

[bindaas]

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[kumarkumar1867]

The name Hindu Kush means 'Hindu killer'....

Not Exactly. It means Hindu Slaughter or Hindu Killings.The Persian-English dictionary indicates that the word 'Kush' is derived from the verb Kushtar - to slaughter or carnage.Kush is probably also related to the verb Koshtan, meaning to kill.

I was replying to Don Jaguar who thinks Islamic Empires didnt used force to establish empires in India.

Hindu Kush valley was place where greatest genocide of human history took place killing 80 to 100 Millions of hindus over a span of 80 years by muslim invaders.Hence the name is so.

Also this slaughtering was a biggest reason of religious conversion in west & north pakistan & Afghanistan which was Hindu & Buddhist dominated areas of those times.

 

[kumarkumar1867]

I looked into Persian-English dictionary Kush means "cache", "hidden supply", It seems Hindukush means "hidden treasure of Indians"

Nope it means Hindu-Killings. Just Like Khud-Kushi in Hindi/Urdu means Self-Killing or suicide !!

 

[Rusty]

Please share the evidence for that





This the 3rd time i'm debunking this nonsense of yours

And Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase no blogs, a university research paper or study.

Aryan-Dravidian divide a myth: Study




Unless you"re really thick enough to say that vedas were written some time 40,000 years ago You theory of Vedas celebrating so called Aryan rule over continent is piece of your perverted Indophobic gratification rituals


Funniest part is some Pakistanis claim Vedas to be a part of their history, and yet seem so prejudiced and ignorant about it.

here is the Wikipedia link to the Aryan migration.
Indo-Aryan migration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As you can see form the article, the Aryans came from central asia and migrated to India, Iran and Europe.

yes yes, academia is nonsense when you don't want to believe the truth.
Most objective archaeologist and linguists believe in the Aryan invasion theory.

And I find it funny that you want research papers but you offer TOIlet article as your evidence.

Just because the Aryan invasion challenges your dogma does not mean that you should just bury your head in the sand.

 

[scorpionx]

Not Exactly. It means Hindu Slaughter or Hindu Killings.The Persian-English dictionary indicates that the word 'Kush' is derived from the verb Kushtar - to slaughter or carnage.Kush is probably also related to the verb Koshtan, meaning to kill.

I was replying to Don Jaguar who thinks Islamic Empires didnt used force to establish empires in India.

Hindu Kush valley was place where greatest genocide of human history took place killing 80 to 100 Millions of hindus over a span of 80 years by muslim invaders.Hence the name is so.

Also this slaughtering was a biggest reason of religious conversion in west & north pakistan & Afghanistan which was Hindu & Buddhist dominated areas of those times.

The name Hindu Kush means literally 'Kills the Hindu', a reminder of the days when Indian slaves from the Indian subcontinent died in the harsh weather typical of the Afghan mountains while being transported to Central Asia.[3]

At the time, the word Hindu was a secular term which was used to describe all inhabitants of the Indian subcontinent – or Hindustan – irrespective of their religious affiliation. It was only towards the end of the 18th century that European merchants and colonists referred collectively to the followers of Indian religions as Hindus.

According to the National Geographic article "West of Khyber Pass", :Generations of raiders brought captive Hindus past these peaks of perpetual snow. Such bitter journeys gave the range its name Hindu Kush - 'Killer of Hindus'."[4] The World Book Encyclopedia informs that "the name Kush, .. means Death".[5] While Encyclopædia Britannica says 'The name Hindu Kush first appears in 1333 AD in the writings of Ibn Battutah, the medieval Berber traveller, who said the name meant 'Hindu Killer', a meaning still given by Afghan mountain dwellers who are traditional enemies of Indian plainsmen (i.e. Hindus).[6]

The word "Koh" or "Kuh" means mountain in many of the local languages. According to Nigel Allan, there were at least two meanings for "Hindu Kush" common centuries ago "mountains of India" and "sparkling snows of India" - he notes that the name is clearly applied from a Central Asian perspective.[7] Others maintain that the name Hindu Kush is probably a corruption of Hindi-Kash or Hindi-Kesh, the boundary of Hind (i.e. Indian subcontinent).[8]

The mountain range between Hindu Kush and Karakoram is known as Hindu Raj.
Wikipedia says little different here.

 

[kumarkumar1867]

The name Hindu Kush means literally 'Kills the Hindu', a reminder of the days when Indian slaves from the Indian subcontinent died in the harsh weather typical of the Afghan mountains while being transported to Central Asia.[3]

At the time, the word Hindu was a secular term which was used to describe all inhabitants of the Indian subcontinent – or Hindustan – irrespective of their religious affiliation. It was only towards the end of the 18th century that European merchants and colonists referred collectively to the followers of Indian religions as Hindus.

According to the National Geographic article "West of Khyber Pass", :Generations of raiders brought captive Hindus past these peaks of perpetual snow. Such bitter journeys gave the range its name Hindu Kush - 'Killer of Hindus'."[4] The World Book Encyclopedia informs that "the name Kush, .. means Death".[5] While Encyclopædia Britannica says 'The name Hindu Kush first appears in 1333 AD in the writings of Ibn Battutah, the medieval Berber traveller, who said the name meant 'Hindu Killer', a meaning still given by Afghan mountain dwellers who are traditional enemies of Indian plainsmen (i.e. Hindus).[6]

The word "Koh" or "Kuh" means mountain in many of the local languages. According to Nigel Allan, there were at least two meanings for "Hindu Kush" common centuries ago "mountains of India" and "sparkling snows of India" - he notes that the name is clearly applied from a Central Asian perspective.[7] Others maintain that the name Hindu Kush is probably a corruption of Hindi-Kash or Hindi-Kesh, the boundary of Hind (i.e. Indian subcontinent).[8]

The mountain range between Hindu Kush and Karakoram is known as Hindu Raj.
Wikipedia says little different here.

All the Encyclopedias and National
Geographic agree that Hindu Kush region is a
place of Hindu genocide (similar to Dakau and
Auschwitz). All the references are given.
Please feel free to verify them.
ABSTRACT
All Standard reference books agree that the name
'Hindu Kush' of the mountain range in Eastern
Afganistan means ' Hindu Slaughter' or ' Hindu
Killer '. History also reveals that until 1000 A.D.
the area of Hindu Kush was a full part of Hindu
cradle. More likely, the mountain range was
deliberately named as 'Hindu Slaughter ' by the
Moslem conquerors, as a lesson to the future
generations of Indians. However Indians in
general, and Hindus in particular are completely
oblivious to this tragic genocide. This article also
looks into the reasons behind this ignorance.
21 References - (Mainly Encyclopedia Britannica &
other reference books, National Geographic
Magazines and standard history books).
INTRODUCTION
The Hindu Kush is a mountain system nearly 1000
miles long and 200 miles wide, running northeast
to southwest, and dividing the Amu Darya River
Valley and Indus River Valley. It stretches from the
Pamir Plateau near Gilgit, to Iran. The Hindu Kush
ranges mainly run thru Afganistan and Pakistan. It
has over two dozen summits of more than 23,000
ft in height. Below the snowy peaks the mountains
of Hindu Kush appear bare, stony and poor in
vegetation. Historically, the passes across the
Hindu Kush have been of great military
significance, providing access to the northern
plains of India. The Khyber Pass constitutes an
important strategic gateway and offers a
comparatively easy route to the plains of Punjab.
Most foreign invaders, starting from Alexander the
Great in 327 BC, to Timur Lane in 1398 AD, and
from Mahmud of Ghazni, in 1001 AD, to Nader
Shah in 1739 AD attacked Hindustan via the
Khyber Pass and other passes in the Hindu Kush
(1,2,3). The Greek chroniclers of Alexander the
Great called Hindu Kush as Parapamisos or
Paropanisos (4). The Hindu name of the Hindu
Kush mountains was 'Paariyaatra Parvat'(5).
EARLY HISTORY OF HINDU KUSH REGION (UP
TO 1000 AD)
History of Hindu Kush and Punjab shows that two
major kingdoms of Gandhaar & Vaahic Pradesh
(Balkh of Bactria) had their borders extending far
beyond the Hindu Kush. Legend has it that the
kingdom of Gandhaar was established by Taksha,
grandson of Bharat of Ayodhya (6). Gandhaar's
borders extended from Takshashila to Tashkent
(corruption of 'Taksha Khand ') in the present
day Uzbekistan. In the later period, Mahabharat
relates Gaandhaari as a princess of Gandhaar and
her brother, Shakuni as a prince and later as
Gandhaar's ruler.
In the well documented history, Emperor
Chandragupt Maurya took charge of Vaahic
Pradesh around 325 BC and then took over
Magadh. Emperor Ashok's stone tablets with
inscriptions in Greek and Aramaic are still found
at Qandahar (corruption of Gandhaar?) and
Laghman in eastern Afganistan(3). One such stone
tablet, is shown in the PBS TV series 'Legacy with
Mark Woods' in episode 3 titled 'India: The
Spiritual Empire'. After the fall of Mauryan empire,
Gandhaar was ruled by Greeks. However some of
these Greek rulers had converted to Buddhism,
such as Menander, known to Indian historians as
Milinda, while some other Greeks became
followers of Vishnav sects (Hinduism)(7). Recent
excavations in Bactria have revealed a golden
hoard which has among other things a figurine of
a Greek goddess with a Hindu mark on its
forehead (Bindi) showing the confluence of Hindu-
Greek art (8). Later Shaka and KushaaN ruled
Gandhaar and Vaahic Pradesh. KushaaN emperor
Kanishka's empire stretched from Mathura to the
Aral Sea (beyond the present day Uzbekistan,
Tajikistan, and Krygzystan)(9).
Kanishaka was a Buddhist and under KushaaN
influence Buddhism flourished in Gandhaar. Two
giant sandstone Buddhas carved into the cliffs of
Bamian (west of Kabul) date from the Kushan
period. The larger Buddha (although defaced in
later centuries by Moslem invaders) is about 175
ft tall (10,11). The Kushan empire declined by 450
AD. The Chinese traveller Hsuan-Tsang (Xuan-zang)
travelled thru the region in 7 th century AD and
visited many Buddhist religious centers (3)
including Hadda, Ghazni, Qonduz, Bamian
(3,10,11), Shotorak and Bagram. From the 5 th
thru 9 th cenury AD Persian Sasanians and
Hepthalites ruled Gandhaar. During their rule
Gandhaar region was again influenced by
Hinduism. The Hindu kings (Shahiya) were
concentrated in the Kabul and Ghazni areas. The
last Hindu Shahiya king of Kabul, Bhimapal was
killed in 1026 AD. The heroic efforts of the Hindu
Shahiya Kings to defend the northwestern gates of
India against the invaders are described by even
al-Biruni, the court historian of Mahmud of Ghazni
(12). Some excavated sites of the period include a
major Hindu Shahiya temple north of Kabul and a
chapel that contains both Buddhist and Hindu
images, indicating that there was a mingling of two
religions (3).
Islamic invasions on Afganistan started in 642 AD,
but over the next several centuries their effect was
marginal and lasted only a short time after each
raid. Cities surrendered only to rise in revolt and
the hastily converted returned to their old religion
(Hinduism or Buddhism) once the Moslem armies
had passed (3).
THUS TILL THE YEAR 1000 AD AFGANISTAN
WAS A FULL PART OF HINDU CRADLE.
HINDU KUSH AND THE HINDU GENOCIDE
Now Afganistan is a Moslem country. Logically,
this means either one or more of the following
must have happened:
a) original residents of Hindu Kush converted to
Islam, or
b) they were slaughtered and the conquerors took
over, or
c) they were driven out.
Encyclopedia Britannica (3) already informs us
above about the resistance to conversion and
frequent revolt against to the Moslem conqueror's
rule from 8 th thru 11 th Century AD. The name
'Hindu Kush' itself tells us about the fate of the
original residents of Gandhaar and Vaahic Pradesh
during the later period of Moslem conquests,
because HINDU KUSH in Persian MEANS HINDU
SLAUGHTER (13) (as per Koenraad Elst in his book
'Ayodhya and After'). Let us look into what other
standard references say about Hindu Kush.
Persian-English dictionary (14) indicates that the
word 'Kush' is derived from the verb Kushtar - to
slaughter or carnage. Kush is probably also related
to the verb Koshtan meaning to kill. In Urdu, the
word Khud-kushi means act of killing oneself
(khud - self, Kushi- act of killing). Encyclopedia
Americana comments on the Hindu Kush as
follows: The name Hindu Kush means literally 'Kills
the Hindu', a reminder of the days when (Hindu)
SLAVES from Indian subcontinent died in harsh
Afgan mountains while being transported to
Moslem courts of Central Asia (15). The National
Geographic Article 'West of Khyber Pass' informs
that 'Generations of raiders brought captive
Hindus past these peaks of perpetual snow. Such
bitter journeys gave the range its name Hindu
Kush - "Killer of Hindus"'(10). The World Book
Encyclopedia informs that the name Kush, ..
means Death ..(16). While Encyclopedia Britannica
says 'The name Hindu Kush first appears in 1333
AD in the writings of Ibn Battutah, the medieval
Berber traveller, who said the name meant 'Hindu
Killer', a meaning still given by Afgan mountain
dwellers who are traditional enemies of Indian
plainsmen (i.e. Hindus)(2). However, later the
Encyclopedia Britannica gives a negationist twist by
adding that 'more likely the name is a corruption
of Hindu-Koh meaning Hindu mountains'. This is
unlikely, since the term Koh is used in its proper,
uncorrupted form for the western portion of
Hindu Kush, viz. Koh-i-Baba, for the region Swat
Kohistan, and in the names of the three peaks of
this range, viz. Koh-i-Langer, Koh-i-Bandakor, and
Koh-i-Mondi. Thus to say that corruption of term
Koh to Kush occurred only in case of Hindu Kush
is merely an effort to fit in a deviant observation
to a theory already proposed. In science, a theory
is rejected if it does not agree with the
observations, and not the other way around.
Hence the latter negationist statement in the
Encyclopedia Britannica must be rejected.
IT IS SIGNIFICANT THAT ONE OF THE FEW
PLACE NAMES ON EARTH THAT REMINDS US
NOT OF THE VICTORY OF THE WINNERS BUT
RATHER THE SLAUGHTER OF THE LOSERS,
CONCERNS A GENOCIDE OF HINDUS BY THE
******* (13).
Unlike the Jewish holocaust, the exact toll of the
Hindu genocide suggested by the name Hindu
Kush is not available. However the number is
easily likely to be in millions. Few known historical
figures can be used to justify this estimate.
Encyclopedia Britannica informs that in December
1398 AD, Timur Lane ordered the execution of at
least 50,000 captives before the battle for Delhi, ..
and after the battle those inhabitants (of Delhi) not
killed were removed (as slaves) (17), while other
reference says that the number of captives
butchered by Timur Lane's army was about
100,000 (18). Later on Encyclopedia Britannica
mentions that the (secular?) Mughal emperor
Akbar 'ordered the massacre of about 30,000
(captured) Rajput Hindus on February 24,
1568 AD, after the battle for Chitod ' (19).
Another reference indicates that this massacre of
30,000 Hindu peasants at Chitod is recorded by
Abul Fazl, Akbar's court historian himself (20).
These two 'one day' massacres are sufficient to
provide a reference point for estimating the scale
of Hindu genocide. The Afgan historian Khondamir
records that during one of the many repeated
invasions on the city of Herat in western
Afganistan, 1,500,000 residents perished (11).
Since some of the Moslem conquerors took Indian
plainsmen as slaves, a question comes : whatever
happened to this slave population? The startling
answer comes from New York Times (May-June
1993 issues). The Gypsies are wandering peoples
in Europe. They have been persecuted in almost
every country. Nazis killed 300,000 gypsies in the
gas chambers. These Gypsies have been wandering
around Central Asia and Europe since around the
12 th Century AD. Until now their country of origin
could not be identified. Also their Language has
had very little in common with the other European
languages. Recent studies however show that their
language is similar to Punjabi and to a lesser
degree to Sanskrit. Thus the Gypsies most likely
originated from the greater Punjab. The time
frame of Gypsy wanderings also coincides early
Islamic conquests hence most likely their
ancestors were driven out of their homes in
Punjab and taken as slaves over the Hindu Kush.
The theory of Gypsie origins in India was first
proposed over two centuries ago. It is only
recently theta linguistic and other proofs have
been verified. Even the Gypsie leadership now
accepts India as the country of their origin.
Thus it is evident that the mountain range was
named as Hindu Kush as a reminder to the future
Hindu generations of the slaughter and slavery of
Hindus during the Moslem conquests.
DELIBERATE IGNORANCE ABOUT HINDU KUSH
If the name Hindu Kush relates such a horrible
genocide of Hindus, why are Hindus ignorant
about it? and why the Government of India does
not teach them about Hindu Kush? The history
and geography curriculums in Indian Schools
barely even mention Hindu Kush. The horrors of
the Jewish holocaust are taught not only in schools
in Israel and USA, but also in Germany. Because
both Germany and Israel consider the Jewish
holocaust a 'dark chapter' in the history. The
Indian Government instead of giving details of this
'dark chapter' in Indian history is busy in
whitewash of Moslem atrocities and the Hindu
holocaust. In 1982, the National Council of
Educational Research and Training issued a
directive for the rewriting of school texts. Among
other things it stipulated that: 'Characterization
of the medieval period as a time of conflict
between Hindus and ******* is forbidden '.
Thus denial of history or Negationism has become
India's official 'educational' policy (21).
Often the official governmental historians brush
aside questions such as those that Hindu Kush
raises. They argue that the British version is the
product of their 'divide and rule' policy' hence
their version is not necessarily true. However it
must be remembered that the earliest reference of
the name Hindu Kush and its literal meaning
'Hindu Killer' comes from Ibn Battutah in 1333
AD, and at that time British were nowhere on the
Indian scene. Secondly, if the name indeed was a
misnomer then the Afgans should have protested
against such a barbaric name and the last 660 plus
years should have been adequate for a change of
name to a more 'civil' name. There has been no
effort for such a change of name by the Afgans.
On the contrary, when the Islamic fundamentalist
regime of the Mujahadeens came to power in
1992, tens of thousands of Hindus and Sikhs from
Kabul, became refugees, and had to pay steep
ransom to enter into Pakistan without a visa.
In the last 46 years the Indian Government also
has not even once demanded that the Afgan
Government change such an insulting and barbaric
name. But in July 1993, the Government of India
asked the visiting Jerusalem Symphony Orchestra
to change its name because the word Jerusalem in
its name is offensive to Moslem Fundamentalists.
CONCLUSION
It is evident that Hindus from ancient India's
(Hindustan's) border states such as Gandhaar and
Vaahic Pradesh were massacred or taken as slaves
by the Moslem invaders who named the region as
Hindu Kush (or Hindu Slaughter,or Hindu Killer) to
teach a lesson to the future Hindu generations of
India. Unfortunately Hindus are not aware of this
tragic history. The Indian government does not
want the true history of Hindu Moslem conflicts
during the medieval ages to be taught in schools.
This policy of negationism is the cause behind the
ignorance of Hindus about the Hindu Kush and the
Hindu genocide.
COMMENTS & FUTURE WORK
Although in this article Hindu Kush has been
referred to as Hindu slaughter, it is quite possible
that it was really a Hindu and Buddhist slaughter.
Since prior to Moslem invasions influence of
Buddhism in Gandhaar and Vaahic Pradesh was
considerable. Also as the huge 175 ft stone
Buddhas of Bamian show, Buddhists were idol
worshipers par excellence. Hence for Moslem
invaders the Buddhists idol worshipers were
equally deserving of punishment. It is also likely
that Buddhism was considered an integral part of
the Hindu pantheon and hence was not identified
separately.
This article barely scratches the surface of the
Hindu genocide, the true depth of which is as yet
unknown. Readers are encouraged to find out the
truth for themselves . Only when many readers
search for the truth, the real magnitude of the
Hindu genocide will be discovered.

 

[miss]

Indians should be thanking and praising the mullahs, they have gifted pakistans pre-Islamic civilisation to the Hindus.

And the Hindus have happily accepted it.


However neither party is right to do so.


The history of those lands belong to the people that live there, and if the configuration/names of those lands changes does not mean the legacy of those lands does.

India is always hyper eager to be show itself as a great and ancient civilisation, but I am afraid sometimes it goes too far, the ivc has it's epicentre and majority in Pakistan, not India, I do not care for claiming Tamil civilisation and the opposite should also be true.

in that case your history is of normans and saxons? because u live there and you have no right to IVC?

 

[Tshering22]

I love such threads on PDF. They're so enjoyable to read about how desperately Pakistanis want to be associated to Arab or Turko-Persian communities of people and away from India!

We don't mind actually. Glad you're separated from us. Here's a request; stay off. We don't want you to be our part. Be happy in your own world.

 

[miss]

Super Likes !



I just want to let you know a thing. People like You dont deserve any reply from Indians.

changla aahe na!

 

[Tshering22]

India was also created after the British left, there's never been a contiguous entity known as India which even resembles current India.


Historically race has been the key factor for kingdoms, and people from ivc are racially distinct to rest of India, in general.

In whole of Asia, the obsession of race is only among you Pakistanis who think that you're "fairer, taller and better" than the rest. Not even Iranians have that mentality despite being totally different and very good looking people. There is good and bad looks found in every society.

But how does it matter? Enjoy your continued identity crisis.

 

[Rusty]

I love such threads on PDF. They're so enjoyable to read about how desperately Pakistanis want to be associated to Arab or Turko-Persian communities of people and away from India!

We don't mind actually. Glad you're separated from us. Here's a request; stay off. We don't want you to be our part. Be happy in your own world.

and I love them because it shows how Indians live in lala land.
Not once did a single Pakistani say they were Arab or what ever.
Delusional people will believe in their delusions no matter the evidence in front of their face.


And we are happy with our world, it is you people who are desperately trying to project your insecurities onto us.

 

[miss]

Nope it means Hindu-Killings. Just Like Khud-Kushi in Hindi/Urdu means Self-Killing or suicide !!

during my college days, i heard that khud khushi is something that boys do

 

[kumarkumar1867]

changla aahe na!

Ho Ekdam zhakkas aahe !

during my college days, i heard that khud khushi is
something that boys

Well, That means you had a awesome college life.
But here context was little different !!