History about My people

[bananarepublic]

I understand that. My first book on this ethnicity was The Pathans by Olaf Caroe, who was a great admirer of the Pakhtun. However, it is rather dated; I have not had an opportunity to catch up with the latest academic thinking about this subject.



In a sense. PIE was a reconstruction; nobody knows what it was originally. Indo-Iranian was represented soon after the divide by three and a half languages: Eastern, Central and Western Old Iranian, and Avestan. I am writing this from memory, and the nomenclature of the three branches may be wrong. From that point, there has been tremendous development of Iranian, through a middle period and a modern period to arrive at Modern Iranian.

The closest to PIE is thought to be Lett, spoken by the Latvians on the shores of the Baltic.



Fascinating. I wish I knew more. @WAJsal should know more, but I rarely see him nowadays.

Gilgit, not so much Baltistan, is a melting pot; as you said, sorting out the ancestry thread by intermingled thread is a major project for a whole team of DNA specialists, and I frankly doubt that they can succeed anyway.

Baltistan is a much simpler proposition.

Yes Baltistan has a very easy explanation, they were the early converts to Bhuddism and did adopt numerous traditions and practices from them. Later on when the Tibetan empire collapsed they became their own unique entity with a very interesting language and probably the most rich language in terms of literature in the region.
One thing that people dont realize is that before Buddhism the whole region was dependent on shamanism. Certain practices still clearly show that shamanism was intertwined into the socila fabric of the region.

Gilgit is an even more headbanger region at least a dozen of unique and standalone ethnicity with languages which are incomprehensible for the other and then the numerous social structures of those communities which range massively.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

yes very nice brothers , where you at the conference last year ? Trinidad ?? 75,000

I’ve been to Pakistan of course was there in 2018 as my family lives there .
originally from IOK (poonch,district meander) and still have family and land there .

My father and uncle to the Caribbean many many years ago and set up a tyre business and since we have branched out to other businesses here mainly tourism related .

alhumdullillah Ramadan is being observed and have no complains other than mangoes are a bit late this year lol we’re all waiting for them to fill up and drop .

Ma sha Allah, good to hear, dear brother. I visited them a few years back, it has been some time. I had a few friends there. We had very detailed talks about the history of Islam in the Carribean and even worked to spread some dawat and make plans for places which did not have Islam.

As I have stated elsewhere, I am a student of Islamic fiqh, in addition to my medical profession, and I am quite active in the Islamic community in US and Pakistan.

Glad to see you on this forum, we need more people from this part of the world.

Caribbean mangos, you are zalim brother to even mention them in Ramazan, lol.

I have meet many people witht the family name "saka" interestingly they are probably the longest known people to live in the region of Gilgit-Baltistan
But then again there are numerous ethnicities here that researcher's are still puzzled to where they originates

I had a detailed talk with a Turkish friend of mine about Pakistani history, and when I told him about Saka, Kushan, and Hepthalite origin of most of Pakistani genome, his jaw dropped. He said, brother, I am a Saka Turk, I trace my lineage to them.

You should check my thread on the topic if you get a chance.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-sakas-scythians-kushans-hephthalites-white-huns.610977/

Yes Baltistan has a very easy explanation, they were the early converts to Bhuddism and did adopt numerous traditions and practices from them. Later on when the Tibetan empire collapsed they became their own unique entity with a very interesting language and probably the most rich language in terms of literature in the region.
One thing that people dont realize is that before Buddhism the whole region was dependent on shamanism. Certain practices still clearly show that shamanism was intertwined into the socila fabric of the region.

Gilgit is an even more headbanger region at least a dozen of unique and standalone ethnicity with languages which are incomprehensible for the other and then the numerous social structures of those communities which range massively.

Our Gilgit Baltistan region extrapolates to the Kargil part of Ladakh (now stolen by Indians into a federal territory,) Wakhan corridor (given to British to Afghanistan,) and further related to Uyghurs in China. This is why many of the men here marry Uyghur women. Even the language and customs of both are very similar.

 

[undercover JIX]

Ey thread da kee faida ey? Hon vi mannu maloom vi ni, ey addi takk kyu kholla ey.

PDF hallat de vary, pata ni hassey ya rowey.

har gal vich faida nai labbi da oye saiyaan....vadi lokaan diyaan vadiyaan gallan....jay malak khulli rakhday nay tay rakhan dio...

meri manni te ...hassday hassday roo pao......

How you mean ...from maarning me hol a fresh anno bush bath me go bredda a concrete house mi born n grow



originally from Kashmir . mehdar poonch



I don’t like oxtail it’s not my thing but people love it .

4 things come from Kashmir to Jamaica

ganja
Mango
Turmeric
Me


Lol

Obeah oman go deal wid yuh tail....
I was asking about your connection with Trini Map? DP Trini, Living in Jamaica, originally from Kashmir, DP location Palestine....

do you know any Pakistani language?

 

[jaibi]

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