Historical Background of Pakistan and its People

[nightcrawler]

If cultural diffrences are not that common & well defined as is suggested by majority replies then why Pakistan came into being!!
I mean when you read standard textbooks you came to know that Pakistan was a neccesity because of religious diffrences
When you get to read professional historical works e.g Ayesha Jalal which clealry reflects the secular nature of Quaid & that Pakistan was an outcome of cultural values the same point being somewhat shared in Smoker's Corner by Paracha Sb. who totally negate this kind off religious ideology
Tell me what is the true answer behind all this fuss

 

[Peshwa]

PS: Above is my last post to the nonsense....People can take the last swing....count me out....Being racist is not in me...it was a reaction to a post

 

[Desert Fox]

I dunno what kinda girls you've been meeting bro....

But like someone else mentioned....quite a few BD girls look Indian.....Maybe some of them are trying to reintegrate....You know go back to their roots....

no no no,

they were indian alright

 

[Desert Fox]

or some Pakistani girls trying to pass of as Indian girls....as it helps them in many ways...

lol, why would any Pakistani girl want to be indian? first time i'm hearing this.......

PS Pakistani girls look very different from indian girls, they also wear hijab so i don't know why they would have any reason to "pass of as indian girls"?

 

[sensenreason]

Never once has this happened.

If they are hiding their identity..you are NOT supposed to know.

 

[sensenreason]

lol, why would any Pakistani girl want to be indian? first time i'm hearing this.......

PS Pakistani girls look very different from indian girls, they also wear hijab so i don't know why they would have any reason to "pass of as indian girls"?

So that they dont need to wear Hijab, for instance.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Well to the Indian members, if you see a derogatory remark, just report it, replying to it with idiotic and stupid comments will make you earn the ban also.

No need to reply to the trolls, just report, next time those who reply will also go out.

 

[Desert Fox]

So that they dont need to wear Hijab, for instance.

Even if they didn't have Hijab on they still look different from indian girls, trust me i've been to a school where Pakistanis, Afghans, Bengalis, and indians went and it wouldn't take an expert to tell the difference between a Pakistani and an indian!

 

[Desert Fox]

Indian members are too quick to hit the report button.

lol, but you shouldn't give them the chance to press the report button! Try not to troll.

Anyways, Pakistan and india somewhat do share a common culture, but we are not the same people and since partition we have changed in many ways and this has contributed in making us even more different from each other!

 

[ADT]

lol, but you shouldn't give them the chance to press the report button! Try not to troll.

Anyways, Pakistan and india somewhat do share a common culture, but we are not the same people and since partition we have changed in many ways and this has contributed in making us even more different from each other!

Pakistan didn't seperate on the basis of religion alone after all India has a larger population of Muslims than Pakistan.

We are very different people. If we were "the same" as some Indians like to say we would not have wanted a seperate country.

 

[Speaker]

If cultural diffrences are not that common & well defined as is suggested by majority replies then why Pakistan came into being!!
I mean when you read standard textbooks you came to know that Pakistan was a neccesity because of religious diffrences
When you get to read professional historical works e.g Ayesha Jalal which clealry reflects the secular nature of Quaid & that Pakistan was an outcome of cultural values the same point being somewhat shared in Smoker's Corner by Paracha Sb. who totally negate this kind off religious ideology
Tell me what is the true answer behind all this fuss

You may be right, but Pakistan's origin is more in politics rather than in religion. In "Mountbatten and the partition of India", Mountbatten states that even Liaqat Ali Khan was against the creation of a separate nation and finally agreed to Jinnah's political pitch. If Nehru had agreed to Jinnah becoming the PM, the partition may have never occurred. If your point of view is true, why is it that more Muslims chose to stay back rather than migrate, even from regions close to the border?. Like an Indian Muslim activist said something like "Yahaan ke Allah aur Wahaan ke Allah mein koi farq nahin"...

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Hostility is reciprocal. Nowhere did I ever heard that India didn’t accept Pakistani State.

You just be blind then, since comments by Indians to that effect are all over the internet.

In addition, as discussed in a thread on Indira Gandhi, her views of the Pakistani State as it exists currently were not exactly supportive of Pakistan's territorial integrity (and I am speaking of Baluchistan and NWFP).

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

You may be right, but Pakistan's origin is more in politics rather than in religion. In "Mountbatten and the partition of India", Mountbatten states that even Liaqat Ali Khan was against the creation of a separate nation and finally agreed to Jinnah's political pitch. If Nehru had agreed to Jinnah becoming the PM, the partition may have never occurred. If your point of view is true, why is it that more Muslims chose to stay back rather than migrate, even from regions close to the border?. Like an Indian Muslim activist said something like "Yahaan ke Allah aur Wahaan ke Allah mein koi farq nahin"...

The problem lies, as someone else commented, in trying to pigeonhole Pakistan, its ideology, people and culture, into one specific category.

Our culture, our people, our identity and the ideology of the State are in reality a confluence of various influences and factors, and to understand Pakistan is to understand that it is akin to a tapestry rich in color, and not some monochrome print.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

By the way, part of this discussion is going down a route already traveled on the following threads:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...tions-behind-selecting-name-india-1947-a.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history/7650-ancient-history-not-appreciated-pakistanis.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history/8108-historical-background-pakistan-its-people.html

I think this thread is probably more along the lines of that last link, and I am merging it with it.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Actually, before I merge it I'll leave it open to suggestions on whether it should be left to run as is, but then I need to know what direction it will take.