Historical Background of Pakistan and its People

[absmonarch]

Lot of different empires rule different parts of Ancient India. Ancient India have many kingdoms. But collectively always identify as "India" by learned people.

Ancient maps show "India" properly for 2300+ years.

 

[Rafi]

Pakistan has a 9,000 year history, and for the vast majority of that time - she was independent of bharat, and that is a fact.

 

[absmonarch]

Since partition, you try to rewrite history by ignoring facts to the contrary. But unsuccessful.

Read what your own founder Jinnah said. Pakistan was meant to be utilitarian entity - meant to protect the communal rights of muslims of India. Not as separate nationalistic entity. Nationalism in Pakistan is result of Zia ul Haq and military establishment figures who use hatred against Hindus to gain power and suppress democracy.

 

[Rafi]

Pakistan has a 9,000 year history, and for the vast majority of that time - she was independent of bharat, and that is a fact.

Your assertions about Pakistan are borne from misinformation - and the Quaid, when he knew that the Hindus would not honour safe guards - went ahead with independence from Britain, and not partition from india.

 

[absmonarch]

You are misinformed. Jinnah never sold his house in Bombay because he thought he could walk across the "border" every weekend to visit his relatives.

Fact is that he saw India and Pakistan as complimentary entities, and thought that India and Pakistan could form some loose federation after Independence. But that never happened because Islamist ideology take over in Pakistan.

Ask any educated Pakistan who is more than 50-60 years old and they will say same thing.

But Pakistani who grow up after Islamization believe such ridiculous things like Hindus are evil and Pakistan always exist.

 

[PakiiZeeshan]

You are misinformed. Jinnah never sold his house in Bombay because he thought he could walk across the "border" every weekend to visit his relatives.

Fact is that he saw India and Pakistan as complimentary entities, and thought that India and Pakistan could form some loose federation after Independence. But that never happened because Islamist ideology take over in Pakistan.

Ask any educated Pakistan who is more than 50-60 years old and they will say same thing.

But Pakistani who grow up after Islamization believe such ridiculous things like Hindus are evil and Pakistan always exist.

The word "india" before 1947, was used to describe the geographic location of the south Asian region. Just like the word "middle east" is used to describe the geographic location of south-west and western Asian countries.

Just because iranians, arabs, kurds, turks, assyrians ect. are described as "middle easterners" doesn't mean they share the same history, language, ethncity, ect.

 

[makikirkiri]

Pakistan has a 9,000 year history, and for the vast majority of that time - she was independent of bharat, and that is a fact.

Your assertions about Pakistan are borne from misinformation - and the Quaid, when he knew that the Hindus would not honour safe guards - went ahead with independence from Britain, and not partition from india.

Firstly , how could an Islamic country be existent more than 7000 yrs before the birth of mohammed?
What do you think was meant by the term "Bharat" all along during your profound history of 9000 yrs?
What was pakistan known as before it went ahead with it's independence from the British?

 

[UnitedPak]

Firstly , how could an Islamic country be existent more than 7000 yrs before the birth of mohammed?
What do you think was meant by the term "Bharat" all along during your profound history of 9000 yrs?
What was pakistan known as before it went ahead with it's independence from the British?

This ignorance is always displayed here and has been answered a million times before. Nobody mentioned an "Islamic country". Islam and 1947 independence are part of the long history of the Indus region which belongs to the Pakistani people. Indus valley history is Pakistani history.

Pakistan (Indus region) was part of the British Indian empire (not India) from 1849 - 1947.

 

[PureAryan]

Firstly , how could an Islamic country be existent more than 7000 yrs before the birth of mohammed?
What do you think was meant by the term "Bharat" all along during your profound history of 9000 yrs?
What was pakistan known as before it went ahead with it's independence from the British?

Stop attaching our history if you dont know anything about our ancestors, Pakistan has a 9000 year old recorded history, Bharat has a mere 60 year history. Pakistan's history starts with Mehrgarh civilization in 7000BC and it continues with Indus valley, Islam came in 711 AD but before we were buddhists, Vedics, zoroastrians, hindus were always minority. Pakistan has been known with different names all along, Sapta sindhwa, arywarta, melluha, sindh, pancanda, india(given by greeks now stolen by bharat) are some of pakistan's ancient name. Read history by Dr Ahmed Dani or any history book on Pakistan.

If you have different views about pakistan's ancestors i suggest you post references rather lies and fabrication

 

[makikirkiri]

Stop attaching our history if you dont know anything about our ancestors, Pakistan has a 9000 year old recorded history, Bharat has a mere 60 year history. Pakistan's history starts with Mehrgarh civilization in 7000BC and it continues with Indus valley, Islam came in 711 AD but before we were buddhists, Vedics, zoroastrians, hindus were always minority. Pakistan has been known with different names all along, Sapta sindhwa, arywarta, melluha, sindh, pancanda, india(given by greeks now stolen by bharat) are some of pakistan's ancient name. Read history by Dr Ahmed Dani or any history book on Pakistan.

If you have different views about pakistan's ancestors i suggest you post references rather lies and fabrication

1.Pakistan has a 9000 year old recorded history, Bharat has a mere 60 year history : lol
2. If the Indus valley civilization belonged to the pakistani ancestors .. where the hell did the south indian dravidians (read people from tamil nadu, kerala , andhra and karnataka) pop out from?
3.Who the hell were Vedics ? Not Hindus?
Aren't zooroastrians originally hindus who started following a Zooroatrianism which was modified form of vedic Hinduism preached by Zarathustra? What the hell were the buddhists doing before Buddha was born if not practicing hinduism or zooroastrianism ?
4. So aryavarta was pakistan? Ever cared to find out the meaning and the extents of aryavarta?
Sapta Sindhwa ? melluha? sindh? pancanda?Yeah right !all these were names of that part of india. First learn to pronounce them properly.. the way they were in the ancient times before your forefathers came about and started mispronouncing them.. uneducated as they were.
5. A little food for thought: Your Quaid -e -Azam said pakistan came into existence with the first conversion to islam in the sub continent. What are your views on his understanding of the history of pakistan?

 

[makikirkiri]

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[PureAryan]

1.Pakistan has a 9000 year old recorded history, Bharat has a mere 60 year history : lol
2. If the Indus valley civilization belonged to the pakistani ancestors .. where the hell did the south indian dravidians (read people from tamil nadu, kerala , andhra and karnataka) pop out from?
3.Who the hell were Vedics ? Not Hindus?
Aren't zooroastrians originally hindus who started following a Zooroatrianism which was modified form of vedic Hinduism preached by Zarathustra? What the hell were the buddhists doing before Buddha was born if not practicing hinduism or zooroastrianism ?
4. So aryavarta was pakistan? Ever cared to find out the meaning and the extents of aryavarta?
Sapta Sindhwa ? melluha? sindh? pancanda?Yeah right !all these were names of that part of india. First learn to pronounce them properly.. the way they were in the ancient times before your forefathers came about and started mispronouncing them.. uneducated as they were.
5. A little food for thought: Your Quaid -e -Azam said pakistan came into existence with the first conversion to islam in the sub continent. What are your views on his understanding of the history of pakistan?

Ok great
Zoroastrians were hindus
Vedics were hindus
buddhists were hindus
Indus people are tamils
Thanks i learned a lot

 

[Ahmad]

Zoroastrans were not hindus, for god's sake correct yourselves. Sometimes the rivalary between paksitanis and indians drive them to a really funny level.

 

[makikirkiri]

Ok great
Zoroastrians were hindus
Vedics were hindus
buddhists were hindus
Indus people are tamils
Thanks i learned a lot

Yes u have .

 

[PureAryan]

Zoroastrans were not hindus, for god's sake correct yourselves. Sometimes the rivalary between paksitanis and indians drive them to a really funny level.

No ahmed according to the guy above the whole world was indian and hindu before islam, he is making a joke of himself, the vedics were monotheists, the zoroastrians were also monotheists, indus people were same as pakistani people today.
Just because bharat has adopted aryan culture and aryan language from arywarta(pakistan) they have forgotten their dravidian roots