The Truth: Gujarat 2002: Haresh Bhatt
"The Bomb Makers, We Made A Complete Rocket Launcher Here"
Transcript: HARESH BHATT
The Godhra MLA reveals how his firecracker factory made bombs that were then smuggled across the state
JUNE 1, 2007
Haresh Bhatt:
Get rid of their lathis
teach them [the RSS] to use guns
Bajrang Dal members undergo arms training
I am the first in the whole country to run a warg [training module]
I formed the first warg in Gujarat in 1987
with seven young men
TEHELKA: In 87?
Bhatt:
Yes, in 87
The [Babri Masjid] demolition that happenedlater, I gave training for that too
Forty young men from across the country were brought here
I also trained Bajrang Dal activists here in Sarkhej, which created a ruckus later
Rajesh Pilot even said in the Lok Sabha that training was being given in Sarkhej... training in demolition
TEHELKA: You mean of the Babri Masjid..
Bhatt: Yes. The training to demolish the Babri Masjid was given in Sarkhej in Ahmedabad.
TEHELKA: So Pilot raised this question
Bhatt: Yes
And a CBI inquiry and all
went on here
TEHELKA: Against you?
Bhatt: Me
against the instructors here... all of them.
TEHELKA: Okay.
Death worship Bhatt with the VHPs Pravin Togadia
Bhatt: The training centre still exists
At the start, we gave them the same training they give in the army
judo, karate
rifle shooting
obstacle courses like in the army
how to climb a 30-ft rope
bungee jumping
how to leap from one wall to another
all this in a 15-day training session
It still goes on
One session has just ended
TEHELKA: When Godhra happened in 2002
now, Hindus hardly ever keep arms
so how then did they get weapons?
Bhatt:
I have my own gun factory
I used to make firecrackers
We made all the bombs there
Diesel bombs, pipe bombs, we made them there
and we used to distribute them from there as well
We ordered two truckloads of swords from Punjab
right here, in a village called Dhariya, we readied everything there
and then we distributed the samaan [arms]
At that time, the only thing was that the samaan was needed
TEHELKA: Where did you get the arms from?
Bhatt:We got many
country-made pistols
from MP, from UP
we got pistols from everywhere and I distributed them from here
I am talking about this for the first time
nobody knew this secret.
TEHELKA: I know that Hindus do not keep weapons, apart perhaps from kitchen knives
Bhatt:We distributed so many weapons that people were shocked to see how many there were
We would make them here and then test them... We made a complete
launcher inside a pipe, right here in the factory... It was a launcher from the side and had piping over that
chaar ki pipe lagaate the
after closing the entire hole we filled that
with shrapnel and nails... and beneath that placed a 595 bomb
Wed set it off
it would go through a wall nine inches thick
TEHELKA: Hareshbhai, you were saying that you got arms from Kanpur, but there was curfew
Bhatt: Why couldnt they have been brought?
Anything can be brought.
TEHELKA: I was thinking that if curfew
Bhatt:
I got them from MP
I got them from Bihar.
TEHELKA: But how, when curfew was in force?
Bhatt: Things come, everything can come.
TEHELKA: If it came from other states, it had to cross borders
Bhatt: Thats it
they would smuggle it
and it wasnt just one trip that came for me
there were scores of them.
TEHELKA: Our government wasnt even in power in Kanpur then
Bhatt: No we werent
Nor were we ruling in MP.
TEHELKA: Not even in MP
Bhatt: Not in MP
not in UP
not even in Bihar...
TEHELKA: So how could these consignments come?
Bhatt:
Dont ask me all this.
TEHELKA: But they did come
Bhatt: Yes, they definitely came
You can ask [VHP treasurer] Rohitbhai
[about] the arrangements that were made
So many of our Hindus were dying, what was done?
These are the questions you should be asking
TEHELKA: So only swords were brought
Bhatt: No, hell tell you everything
I told you we made launchers
launchers with stands and with pipes this thick
in factories
We went to test them
TEHELKA: You mean the rocket launchers
Bhatt: Yes
wed fill them with gunpowder
first fill them, close them, then light a 595 local-made to blast it all
TEHELKA:Were these ever used?
Bhatt: So much was used in the border areas, that they were astonished at how it had all been transported.
TEHELKA:Were they used in Ahmedabad?
Bhatt: Yes... Ahmedabad
Rohitbhai will tell you
Source:
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