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Hindutva and Zionism hurdles to peace and democracy: Scholars

On eve of fast, Modi


Also he has expressed regret on the riots:


Gujarat became the victim of communal violence. We lost innocent lives, suffered devastation of property and endured a lot of pain. One can visualise what all we have gone through.”


Mr Modi added: “Casteism and communalism have never done any good to society.”
 
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You need a serious reality check. The Gypsies in Western Europe are notorious for being criminal, trying to rip people, and hang on social benefits. That's the general image here.

Thats the image gypsies always had in Europe since medieval times. Its because of Christian Teachings "Blonde Angels and BLonde Jesus against the Dark skinned Demons" and because Gypsies are darker than Europeans they subscirbed to them all kind of horrible stereotypes. In Italy they burnd down a gypsy camp over FALSE rape claim. You can also watch "Gypsies the new Black" a BBC documentation. What the police does to Gypsies in Europe and the European Mass Media.

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http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...le-italians-burn-down-gypsy-camp-because.html
 
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If anyone is comparing RSS with taliban then he is an utter fool

there are 50,000 shakhas run by rss around the country which start 5 in the morning
prayer of rss.. does have refernce to nationalism
Forever I bow to thee, O Loving Motherland! O Motherland of us Hindus, Thou hast brought me up in happiness. May my life, O great and blessed Holy Land, be laid down in Thy Cause. I bow to Thee again and again.
We the children of the Hindu Nation bow to Thee in reverence, O Almighty God. We have girded up our loins to carry on Thy work. Give us Thy holy blessings for its fulfillment. O Lord! Grant us such might as no power on earth can ever challenge, such purity of character as would command the respect of the whole world and such knowledge as would make easy the thorny path that we have voluntarily chosen.
May we be inspired with the spirit of stern heroism, that is sole and ultimate means of attaining the highest spiritual bliss with the greatest temporal prosperity. May intense and everlasting devotion to our ideal ever enthuse our hearts. May our victorious organised power of action, by Thy Grace, be wholly capable of protecting our dharma and leading this nation of ours to the highest pinnacle of glory.
- In Shri Guruji's words
।। भारत माता की जय ।।
RSS Swayamsevaks Matched Speed of the

read this article
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So your problem is with the anglo saxons / hispaniscs / greeks not Christians

I dont have a problem with anybody, i judge everyone as individual. But Europeans used christianity to justify anti-gypsism.

Christianity and Anti-Gypsism
History of Christianity: Roma and anti-Gypsyism.

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How the Church responded to the Gypsy presence
Martin Luther gave Europe one of the first compilations of the Gypsy language in his Liber Vagatorium (Book of Vagabonds, 1528). In the preface to this work he called them

"fake friars, wandering Jews and rogues." ("Slang" 1974:852).

Gypsies who wanted to become Christians upon entering Europe were rejected by the Church. The Archbishop Petri of Sweden decreed in 1560:

"The priest shall not concern himself with the Gypsies. He shall neither bury their corpses nor christen their children."

Priests in Magdeburg were ordered not to baptize Gypsy children without obtaining higher authorization. (Kenrick 1972:22).

Gypsies were rejected by the Church for two major reasons. The first, which may have been accurate, was that the main motive for their conversion was an expedient to greater acceptance by the European peoples. The second, ...the Church ...felt threatened by the palmists who were now competing with the priests for the superstitious minds of the peasant (as well as the upper class) population during this period of the Middle Ages.

During the 19th century the Orthodox clergy in Bulgaria declared it a greater sin than theft to give alms to the Gypsies. (Kenrick 1972:21). In France during the 16th century those who had had their palms read by Gypsies were excommunicated or forced to do penance. (Kenrick 1972:22).

Both Moslem and Christian religious preachers placed Gypsies outside normal society by treating them as outcasts and not letting them participate in church and religious functions even when they professed to be converted to the religion of that country. Those Gypsies who were sincere in their beliefs were forced to listen outside an open window of the church or mosque.

During this time, there were some people who showed sympathy for the Gypsies. The Catholic clergy used its great power to heighten the persecution of the Gypsies by decreeing that such sympathizers were themselves subject to punishment and even death.
In Rumania Gypsies were forced into slavery. They were owned by local landowners and officials in government. The Church bought Gypsy slaves, too for its own purposes. The Church, without compassion, overworked, abused and shamefully took advantage of the Gypsies the same as did the other slaveowners. (Greenfeld, 1977:22).
 
No Sir thats not all Gypsies you can't blame a few bad apples for a whole community

What he said is kinda true actually, Gypsies have been brought to that level over centuries of persecution.
 
Why have the gypsies always taken up professions that have not brought them in direct competition with the society they live in ?
 
You are correct.........
But considering that Zionism does not have a uniform ideology(It may be related to racism as well as nationalism etc.), one cannot totally disagree with the concept.........you can relate the Nationalist part of Zionism to Hindutva

Is it clear now ?????????........



Not really mate. Dr. Puniyani first differentiates between Hindutva and Hinduism. He then suggest that Hindutva is a racist philosophy. The number of differing opinions on here from Indian members suggests that some of you are uncertain as well with some suggesting that it is racist and other saying its harmless

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At that time Patriotic and nationalistic sense was necessary for freedom struggle but post independence that went deviated from the original track. Anything beyond patriotic shouldn worry u but anything that discriminates should.....

Are you suggesting that Indian nationalism and patriotism can only be galvanised behind Hinduism?

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now you are also a "scholar"...:lol:

we are here to learn not get personal. I think that really is tedious and boring. I have an open mind and am asking you guys what its about. If you don't then how will we know.
 
Hindutva and Zionism have a common enemy and that is Islam and Muslims.

Why do you think Israel and India are close allies? Because of their shared hatred for Islam and Muslims.

Interesting bit of topic but if they are racist they would be so against each other ena??
 
Why have the gypsies always taken up professions that have not brought them in direct competition with the society they live in ?

because they were not allowed to. gypsies were slaves in wallachia, it was legal to kill a gypsy without getting responsible for it, gypsies were forbidden entering the town, and were hunted down like the rabbits.
 
Hindutva is many things to many people. You can take it as what they call "Social Conservatives" in western world. People who couple religious beliefs with Politics and Policy making.

You have radical social conservatives and social moderates etc. Basic premise is to make India true to its home born traditions and culture in everyday life to governance.

So India true to its home born traditions and culture only hinduvta can do this??
 
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