Hindus who migrated to India want to return to Pakistan, says NCM chief

[achhu]

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we are not giving medical visa to pakistanis now .

 

[Meengla]

Even if ONE Pakistani Hindu has returned to Pakistan from India then it is a huge opportunity to expose the Indian state.

Come on guys: Be smart. This is the Information Age. Grab the leads and run with it!

India has built this extremely false narrative about the greatly reduced numbers of Hindus in the modern day Pakistan since 1947. They blame it on a 'genocide' of Hindus in Pakistan. While there is certainly a religious bias in Pakistan but the dwindled numbers of Hindus in Pakistan are because of the emigration to India after 1947 and after the loss of the East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) which had a much larger Hindu population.

There have NEVER been the mass genocide of Hindus in Pakistan. Not even after the Babri Masjid was demolished. India, on the other hand, has a gruesome long history of mass slaughter of Muslims and Sikhs up to at least 2002.

 

[Meengla]

The following are reasons we should consider the return of the minorities to Pakistan.
Ironically, there is a precedent ( in our "friendly neighbor next door " ) though not exactly the same and times have changed drastically :
Let's look at the precedent.

Hostile populations are sometimes invited back
Muslims fleeing communal violence from India's eastern provinces had settled in what was then East Pakistan. In 1972 this population of Pakistani citizens became refugees twice in one generation, in what is now Bangladesh. For the brief duration of India's military presence in Bangladesh, it was duty bound as an occupation force to maintain law and order and protect all civilians ( Ref; The Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War (Fourth Geneva Convention) of 12 August 1949.)

India was getting a lot of international criticism in its initial failure to prevent the killing of Pakistanis. India moved the small surviving civilian Pakistani population into refugee camps, which it could only protect as long as it was in occupation. Though technically not India's responsibility, any further massacres following India's withdrawal would have been pinned on India resulting in more international condemnation. Fearing a bloodbath in the wake of its withdrawal, India quietly offered this stranded Pakistani population the "Right of Return" to India, to areas they had left 25 years earlier. India did risk inducting a resentful population back into India, but the offer immediately quelled the risk of a wholesale massacre in Bangladesh. The government of Bangladesh waited hoping the Pakistanis would leave one way or another..
With a firmly secular government in power India was confident that it would eventually win over this relatively small population, and assimilate them back into the Indian Muslim population.
The offer was largely ignored and Pakistanis preferred to continue living in refugee camps awaiting a repatriation to Pakistan.
Some Pakistanis used this opportunity to transit through India via Nepal to Pakistan.,

Return of Minorities into Pakistan
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Here is another precedent.
The Buddhist Chakma population of the Chittagong Hill Tracts were under special protection as a minority, when that territory was part of East Pakistan.
In 1971 fearing the loss of special privileges if the civil war resulted in a secession, a small force of Chakma militants fought alongside Pakistan.
Following the establishment of Bangladesh the Chakmas were on the loosing side. They suffered much in post-war reprisals, resulting in a displacement of their population mostly into Myanmar and later into some heavily forested areas of India.
Pakistan did offer the Chakmas asylum (as best as it could), and a small community of Chakmas loyal to Pakistan escaped via Myanmar, and were repatriated into (West) Pakistan.
The leader of the Chakma fighters Raja Tridev Roy went on to serve as a Federal minister in the Pakistan government, and held several diplomatic and ambassador posts in his long career. During his lifetime Raja Tridev spoke vociferously in defense of his people and highlighted their plight at international forums.
The issue of the return of minorities to Pakistan today has no direct relevance to the precedents above , other than the fact that Pakistan has accepted the return of minority populations in the past.
Those events did produce a small benefit to the international image of both India and Pakistan. India's success in preventing the massacre of Pakistani civilians boosted its international image. Likewise
Pakistan's championship of the Chakma cause through Raja Tridev Roy helped put pressure on Bangladesh to stop massacres of the Chakmas.
Both nations took risks in allowing minorities in. Pakistan was unsure if the Chakmas would maintain their loyalty given the fact that the Bengali Chakma rivalry was beginning to take on a Muslim Buddhist communal overtones, which India could have exploited, but didn't.
The case for the return of minorities today :

Today, allowing Pakistan's minorities back into Pakistan is required because of the following:
- Allowing a minority to return to their native land in safety and honor is a humane act.

The argument for the return of Pakistan's minorities is as sound as the argument for the safe return and rehabilitation of Rohingyas to Myanmar.

- This action will have intense political ramifications in India where beating on the issue of Pakistan's treatment of its minorities is an important tool in the Hindutva agenda of the fascist regime in power.
- False enemy propaganda has placed Pakistan on the wrong side of the Religious Freedom Index and
such actions will be noticed by the global community and improve Pakistan's international standing.

Great info and sentiments !

 

[achhu]

Even if ONE Pakistani Hindu has returned to Pakistan from India then it is a huge opportunity to expose the Indian state.

Come on guys: Be smart. This is the Information Age. Grab the leads and run with it!

India has built this extremely false narrative about the greatly reduced numbers of Hindus in the modern day Pakistan since 1947. They blame it on a 'genocide' of Hindus in Pakistan. While there is certainly a religious bias in Pakistan but the dwindled numbers of Hindus in Pakistan are because of the emigration to India after 1947 and after the loss of the East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) which had a much larger Hindu population.

There have NEVER been the mass genocide of Hindus in Pakistan. Not even after the Babri Masjid was demolished. India, on the other hand, has a gruesome long history of mass slaughter of Muslims and Sikhs up to at least 2002.

pakistan should give citizenship to poor biharis stranded in bangladesh , hindus should be sent back to hindustan .

This is difficult , as they are Indians now they would have to apply for Visa or Citizenship by applying a none refundable $1000 dollar application with Pakistani Consulate.

Their application will be reviewed for consideration

we will pay even 10000 dollars per person if you can accept liberal facists from india .

 

[Itachi]

I have rarely heard news regarding Pakistani hindus, let alone anything negative from them.


People here need a reality check. Minorities are definitely suppressed in Interior Sindh, only the Southern area, and urban centres are free from this discrimination in Sindh.

On one side, these people are not given the guarantee of state's security of their life and religion, and on the other hand they're extremely poor. What other choice could they have?

If your concern for them is their 'loyalty,' you need to realize that when you maybe earn and live off with your family with a 100 a day, your least concern is being 'loyal' to some state, and most concern with surviving!

Seems like people here have lost sense of being human.

Pakistani problems with their minorities....which I acknowledge do exist, especially in Interior Sindh aren't Islamic problem.....they're Pakistani problems...

It's up to Pakistanis to fix them, Islam has already done it a long time ago. And like others have mentioned, these guys made their choice by immigrating to India.....why did they not immigrate when Pakistan and India became independent?? Why now??

The only reasonable conclusion is that they either got caught in the lies or did something bad and ran to India, or both. Possibly the former and not the latter.

They did a lot of damage when they left and this was fully exploited by their delusional media. I'd say this should be looked at carefully, they have no loyalty whatsoever, and now with their 'brothers' rejecting them have no where to turn, so are trying to head back.
There's also an issue of them being compromised by RAW.
That being said special cases should be given priority, but this whole sale return with fireworks isn't right.

Right, I recommend the fireworks....but for the right reasons.

This migration back to Pakistan gives us ample evidence of the reality of Hindus, forget Muslims or Christians, in India. It would have been better to highlight the reality of India rather than celebrating the return of these double minded Hindus...

Not just poverty alone. If your children are at the risk of being kidnapped and forcefully converted and married at ages below 18 validated by corrupt courts, then the first thing you would want to do is get the **** out.

Now you're just speaking like a uneducated liberal...

While those things happen, the cases are very low and far inbetween. Very much lower than the rape, lynching, killing and resettlement of Muslims in Kashmir & the rest of India.

You should stop acting like it's our fault in regards to the situation of minorities within Pakistan. They could have immigrated to India or somewhere else when Pakistan got independent.

 

[alihaider29]

My only concern is "RAW"

 

[achhu]

My only concern is "RAW"

yes absolutely true .

 

[Itachi]

By that logic, half of the Pakistanis on this forum should revoke their citizenship (already some boast about their dual citizenship), why do you think they went abroad.

There's in fact a bigger distinction between. They went by necessity, and people on here went to Europe not by necessity, but for milk and honey!

Now you're just batshit crazy...

This Earth belongs to all humans. We can immigrate where ever we want to. The passport is not even 100 years old, or is close to it.

Not everyone immigrates out of necessity. Will 1st gen Pakistani kids born around the world have immigrated too?? Nope, they were born. They had no choice.

Still, loads are proud of being Pakistanis, or half Pakistani. Your arguments are shallow. Best move on to another thread.

If they were given the guarantee of health and wealth, and could, they too would.

Patriotism, states, rivalries, these sort of things are not a concern for people who are on the edge of survival.

You think rich folks can't betray their nations?? LOL

Your arguments have a lot of holes in them.....which are very easy to spot. If you feel so much for these folks, go make a petition for it. I don't see you jumping up and down for the rights of Muslims around the world. Why're Hindus so special?? Especially ones who would sell you if they made some $$$?

 

[Itachi]

Not just poverty alone. If your children are at the risk of being kidnapped and forcefully converted and married at ages below 18 validated by corrupt courts, then the first thing you would want to do is get the **** out.

Btw, this line is straight from the Hindu textbooks.......are you sure you're not reading too much Times of India?

 

[Baibars_1260]

pakistan should give citizenship to poor biharis stranded in bangladesh , hindus should be sent back to hindustan .

There are no "biharis" in Bangladesh. All Biharis are citizens of India, and belong to Bihar which is a province in eastern India. Bihar has an international border with Nepal. 87% of Biharis are Hindus. Biharis are a heavily armed people ( like FATA in Pakistan) with a high per capita individual gun ownership. Biharis are extremely volatile if they are slighted. Bihar is a lawless province of India. With a linguistic, ethnic, and parochial mindset Biharis, have mostly cleansed their province of East Bengali refugees.

If you are referring to stranded Pakistanis in Bangladesh, then they have been granted citizenship by Bangladesh. The refugee camps have been broken up and the stranded Pakistanis have mostly dispersed and relocated to places like Bhola.

we will pay even 10000 dollars per person if you can accept liberal facists from india .

Whose the "we" and who will you pay the money too.
Who are liberal "fascists "?
I think you mean urban naxalites .

 

[Imran Khan]

we are not giving medical visa to pakistanis now .

book an appointment for you ASAP you really need it .

 

[Baibars_1260]

book an appointment for you ASAP you really need it .

Yeah, we will send him to Kot Lakhpat

 

[Itachi]

book an appointment for you ASAP you really need it .

Chakaa!

 

[HAIDER]

if hindus get equal status in constitution of pakistan then only they should live in pakistan. otherwise they should take asylum in india or elsewhere where they are equal citizens with others .


yeah this is the way you treat hindus in pakistan .


they are searching for better life .

I don't, they left the country and relocate India on the basis of religion. In other word they DISHONOUR my country and people..

 

[Itachi]

I don't, they left the country and relocate India on the basis of religion. In other word they DISHONOUR my country and people..

Not only that but they bad mouthed Pakistan and Pakistanis...