Hindus were never converted to Islam at the point of sword says Azam Khan

[PlanetWarrior]

Muslims in South Asia today are getting close to the number of Hindus in the region. Hinduism as a way of life failed its people by locking them into a perpetual state of permanent caste slavery, myths and inequality. All you have to do is to look at the Indian Hindu population to see the non social mobility still in action. Islam replaced Hinduism and Budhism because it distributed equality, eradicated the caste system and provided a balanced socioeconomic model where people stopped looking at each other from a racial point of view.

The notion of 'under sword' conversion is very popular among the Hindutva brand of today. They can't be blamed because this nonesense narrative which is refuted by all historians is the only way the Hindutvadasis can not only simplify the answer to this question but also provide a self serving myth to heal their historic insecurities, hide Hinduism's failure as a system and consolidate whatever is left of it. Anyone in their position would've done the same through an 'easy' approach.

Contarary to their belief, Islam took a good 500 years to consolidate in South Asia and if we really practiced 'convert or die' strategy as today's Hindutvadasis propogate, there wouldn't have been any Hindus left today. Muslims had a 1000 years to eradicate them like the Brits eradicated Ameroindians and Australian Aboriginals. The very fact that Hindus still are a demographic majority (though not for long) negates their bogus narrative.

So true. Just look at the equal distribution of wealth in Pakistan and Bangladesh as compared to India. The balanced socio-economic models of Pakistan and Bangladesh as compared to India makes life a living hell in India and a paradise in the other two mentioned Muslim nations

 

[pursuit of happiness]

LUCKNOW: Senior UP cabinet minister Azam Khan has posed a question to RSS as to why it compromised with Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Mufti Mohammad Sayeed on the issue of Article 370 that grants special status to the state.

Khan said that the outfit had kept the issue alive since independence. Azam Khan also lashed out at leaders of saffron outfits for vitiating peaceful atmosphere by raising the issue of conversion.

"Hindus were never converted to Islam at the point of sword. It is insult of Hindus," he said. He also hit out at the BJP on the issue of "Love Jihad". "They do not know the definition of love. In the name of 'Love Jihad', they are trying to bring bad name to the pious relationship between a man and a woman," Khan said.

He also took a dig at BJP leader Sadhvi Prachi who has appeal to youth not to idolise the Bollywood's Khan trio -- Shah Rukh Khan, Aamir Khan and Salman Khan. Referring to himself, Azam said said that there was another Khan in the list.

"They (saffron outfit leaders) have been criticising Khans. But now they have added one more Khan, Azam Khan, for various reasons," he said.

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good
UP is up on HDI edu job develpoemnt
so time for all this

 

[Kompromat]

So true. Just look at the equal distribution of wealth in Pakistan and Bangladesh as compared to India. The balanced socio-economic models of Pakistan and Bangladesh as compared to India makes life a living hell in India and a paradise in the other two mentioned Muslim nations

That is our failure. When Jinnah instructed us to follow 'Islamic Socialism', he meant for distribution of wealth to occur. Honestly speaking, only if we fix our Zakat system, we can eradicate extreme poverty within two decades without any govt support.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

That is our failure. When Jinnah instructed us to follow 'Islamic Socialism', he meant for distribution of wealth to occur. Honestly speaking, only if we fix our Zakat system, we can eradicate extreme poverty within two decades without any govt support.

"Ifs" and "Buts" never amounted to much, especially when it comes to religion, politics and marriage.

 

[lasttry]

Muslims paid taxes to Baitul Maal. The Jizya is the 'only' tax non Muslims were liable to pay and it was lower than tax rate for Muslims. Muslums are also liable to pay 2.5% of their total wealth to the needy, every year. Most of our Hindu friends have zilch idea about how the Baitul Maal works.

Very enlightening indeed!

 

[Nawaba]

Hindus in India are a combination of ignorant and sheeples of media provocation. Islam spread throughout the subcontinent via Sufi scholars, which most of you dotheads pray to today. Sikhs regard Baba Farid as one of their saints, even today. However, slum dog baniyas that made it to the states today though their hard work in call centers try to look down on Muslims. These same dotheads have no problem getting a big mac during their IT lunch breaks, but when a Muslm offers them beef, they go ape shit crazy. When Muslims ruled the Indians for 1000 years, at least we gave you hindu respect and inducted you within our past-day bureaucracy and our day to day governance. Today these baniyas worship the white man, get treated like shit, and then have the audacity to rage on Muslims. Indians are smart people, but their insecurities and complexes hold them back. I get a big laugh out of it. I am just thankful for Pakistan.

 

[xTra]

Hindus in India are a combination of ignorant and sheeples of media provocation. Islam spread throughout the subcontinent via Sufi scholars, which most of you dotheads pray to today. Sikhs regard Baba Farid as one of their saints, even today. However, slum dog baniyas that made it to the states today though their hard work in call centers try to look down on Muslims. These same dotheads have no problem getting a big mac during their IT lunch breaks, but when a Muslm offers them beef, they go ape shit crazy. When Muslims ruled the Indians for 1000 years, at least we gave you hindu respect and inducted you within our past-day bureaucracy and our day to day governance. Today these baniyas worship the white man, get treated like shit, and then have the audacity to rage on Muslims. Indians are smart people, but their insecurities and complexes hold them back. I get a big laugh out of it. I am just thankful for Pakistan.

Excellent.

Keep the good work going.

 

[Rana Thakur]

You can't be blamed for rejecting my views. Truth is always hard to digest.

Whoah, Horus logic strikes again.

Hindus in India are a combination of ignorant and sheeples of media provocation. Islam spread throughout the subcontinent via Sufi scholars, which most of you dotheads pray to today. Sikhs regard Baba Farid as one of their saints, even today. However, slum dog baniyas that made it to the states today though their hard work in call centers try to look down on Muslims. These same dotheads have no problem getting a big mac during their IT lunch breaks, but when a Muslm offers them beef, they go ape shit crazy. When Muslims ruled the Indians for 1000 years, at least we gave you hindu respect and inducted you within our past-day bureaucracy and our day to day governance. Today these baniyas worship the white man, get treated like shit, and then have the audacity to rage on Muslims. Indians are smart people, but their insecurities and complexes hold them back. I get a big laugh out of it. I am just thankful for Pakistan.

Religious trolling at it's best by a ZH supporter.

 

[captainvancouver]

Muslims in South Asia today are getting close to the number of Hindus in the region. Hinduism as a way of life failed its people by locking them into a perpetual state of permanent caste slavery, myths and inequality. All you have to do is to look at the Indian Hindu population to see the non social mobility still in action. Islam replaced Hinduism and Budhism because it distributed equality, eradicated the caste system and provided a balanced socioeconomic model where people stopped looking at each other from a racial point of view.

The notion of 'under sword' conversion is very popular among the Hindutva brand of today. They can't be blamed because this nonesense narrative which is refuted by all historians is the only way the Hindutvadasis can not only simplify the answer to this question but also provide a self serving myth to heal their historic insecurities, hide Hinduism's failure as a system and consolidate whatever is left of it. Anyone in their position would've done the same through an 'easy' approach.

Contarary to their belief, Islam took a good 500 years to consolidate in South Asia and if we really practiced 'convert or die' strategy as today's Hindutvadasis propogate, there wouldn't have been any Hindus left today. Muslims had a 1000 years to eradicate them like the Brits eradicated Ameroindians and Australian Aboriginals. The very fact that Hindus still are a demographic majority (though not for long) negates their bogus narrative.

Yeah and look at the state of Islam today. btw. Slavery existed in Mecca until 1962. These slaves were castrated as well. After that they started bringing in the Pakistani's. That is the new casteism/slavery.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

Jizya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mughals enforced Jizya on Hindus. THose who coudnt afford converted. That is force

Nope! They certainly used much more explicit means to convert than just nominally tax those hapless non-believers! For just an instance, if you ever lost a battle against an invading Muslim ruler, you effectively had no choice but to convert unless you chose to kill yourself! Women/children of the surrendering armies fared even worse!

I am not saying everybody was forced to convert, but it is certainly not unheard of in Islam to use force to convert hordes of non-believers or those who simply refuse to convert! Just look at today's Yezidis or other minorities in ME!

There was a jizya tax indeed but the real source of income was the khiraj tax a land tax.

I am sorry, but we are not discussing which was the real source of income for Mughals. We are discussing about the veracity of Mr. Azam Khan'r claims that hindus were "NEVER" converted to islam at the point of sword.

 

[The Headache]

Muslims in South Asia today are getting close to the number of Hindus in the region. Hinduism as a way of life failed its people by locking them into a perpetual state of permanent caste slavery, myths and inequality. All you have to do is to look at the Indian Hindu population to see the non social mobility still in action. Islam replaced Hinduism and Budhism because it distributed equality, eradicated the caste system and provided a balanced socioeconomic model where people stopped looking at each other from a racial point of view.

The notion of 'under sword' conversion is very popular among the Hindutva brand of today. They can't be blamed because this nonesense narrative which is refuted by all historians is the only way the Hindutvadasis can not only simplify the answer to this question but also provide a self serving myth to heal their historic insecurities, hide Hinduism's failure as a system and consolidate whatever is left of it. Anyone in their position would've done the same through an 'easy' approach.

Contarary to their belief, Islam took a good 500 years to consolidate in South Asia and if we really practiced 'convert or die' strategy as today's Hindutvadasis propogate, there wouldn't have been any Hindus left today. Muslims had a 1000 years to eradicate them like the Brits eradicated Ameroindians and Australian Aboriginals. The very fact that Hindus still are a demographic majority (though not for long) negates their bogus narrative.

You don't need to explain bs just to support your religion. Nor you have to consider another religion inferior to yours. The whole world knows what ruckus has been caused by Islam also. The world knows how much inequality there is in Islam also - being a Sunni/Shia/Ahmedi/Wahabi etc. What about a Sunni who claims Shias are not real Muslims and on the contrary accepts that most of the Sunnis are the converted ones? So, look into your backyard first before talking about other's religions. I accept Hinduism created divide b/w people 1000 years ago but that is what some Muslim are doing today !

 

[acid rain]

Boko Haram, the Islamic state are giving us live examples of how conversions were done back in the day and how Muslims became majority in certain regions.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

HinduKush anyone ?

Mountain of dead Hindus or Mountain of Hindu death ......... take your pick.

 

[Zarvan]

LUCKNOW: Senior UP cabinet minister Azam Khan has posed a question to RSS as to why it compromised with Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Mufti Mohammad Sayeed on the issue of Article 370 that grants special status to the state.

Khan said that the outfit had kept the issue alive since independence. Azam Khan also lashed out at leaders of saffron outfits for vitiating peaceful atmosphere by raising the issue of conversion.

"Hindus were never converted to Islam at the point of sword. It is insult of Hindus," he said. He also hit out at the BJP on the issue of "Love Jihad". "They do not know the definition of love. In the name of 'Love Jihad', they are trying to bring bad name to the pious relationship between a man and a woman," Khan said.

He also took a dig at BJP leader Sadhvi Prachi who has appeal to youth not to idolise the Bollywood's Khan trio -- Shah Rukh Khan, Aamir Khan and Salman Khan. Referring to himself, Azam said said that there was another Khan in the list.

"They (saffron outfit leaders) have been criticising Khans. But now they have added one more Khan, Azam Khan, for various reasons," he said.

He is right 99 % converted with choice may be 1 % were forced Indonesia and Malaysia are Muslim majority countries no Muslim Army went there. Islam is the fastest growing religion in west they are all converting with choice not by force

 

[vegav]

Muslims paid taxes to Baitul Maal. The Jizya is the 'only' tax non Muslims were liable to pay and it was lower than tax rate for Muslims. Muslums are also liable to pay 2.5% of their total wealth to the needy, every year. Most of our Hindu friends have zilch idea about how the Baitul Maal works.

Muslims were the rulers and were naturally more wealthy,so they can afford to pay a higher tax.

Moreover,Hindus were the ones who did business and toiled in the fields and created wealth,so it is natural that the productive assets of the kingdom paid lesser tax but loss of sovereignity can never be compensated by wealth.

That is our failure. When Jinnah instructed us to follow 'Islamic Socialism', he meant for distribution of wealth to occur. Honestly speaking, only if we fix our Zakat system, we can eradicate extreme poverty within two decades without any govt support.

Pakistan is a rent seeker and one can never eradicate poverty by charity.

He is right 99 % converted with choice may be 1 % were forced Indonesia and Malaysia are Muslim majority countries no Muslim Army went there. Islam is the fastest growing religion in west they are all converting with choice not by force

decimal point lagaana bhool gye tussi,more like 9.9%.

Hindus in India are a combination of ignorant and sheeples of media provocation. Islam spread throughout the subcontinent via Sufi scholars, which most of you dotheads pray to today. Sikhs regard Baba Farid as one of their saints, even today. However, slum dog baniyas that made it to the states today though their hard work in call centers try to look down on Muslims. These same dotheads have no problem getting a big mac during their IT lunch breaks, but when a Muslm offers them beef, they go ape shit crazy. When Muslims ruled the Indians for 1000 years, at least we gave you hindu respect and inducted you within our past-day bureaucracy and our day to day governance. Today these baniyas worship the white man, get treated like shit, and then have the audacity to rage on Muslims. Indians are smart people, but their insecurities and complexes hold them back. I get a big laugh out of it. I am just thankful for Pakistan.

we are also thankful ignorant average salims like you are not in our vicinity.